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cgmac12 10-23-2007 05:20 PM

My Fair Lacy- the woman in Simms is who my friend got her adorable Yorkie from. Mine came from Phyllis Brown in Texarkana- she lives in the Spring Lake Park area. She said that this was her first litter of puppies.

Poor Sassy- my friend and her Rocco came over to play tonight and he is so adorable- exactly what we set out to get. Sassy is a sweet baby, but I guess she will never be our Yorkie.

To all the posters who suggested we get another Yorkie- I wish! We have a Sheltie that is 8 years old and an outside dog that is a Catahoula. We also have one cat- so another pet is out of the question right now!


Crystal

alisonJ 10-23-2007 05:24 PM

you know, I think this little dog COULD be a yorkie. It's all in the hair. If you shave down any Yorkie, they look like this. Was she clipped before you got her?

MyFairLacy 10-23-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1456299)
My Fair Lacy- the woman in Simms is who my friend got her adorable Yorkie from. Mine came from Phyllis Brown in Texarkana- she lives in the Spring Lake Park area. She said that this was her first litter of puppies.

Poor Sassy- my friend and her Rocco came over to play tonight and he is so adorable- exactly what we set out to get. Sassy is a sweet baby, but I guess she will never be our Yorkie.

To all the posters who suggested we get another Yorkie- I wish! We have a Sheltie that is 8 years old and an outside dog that is a Catahoula. We also have one cat- so another pet is out of the question right now!


Crystal

well, full yorkie or not I hope you stay around YT :)

alex_143 10-23-2007 06:05 PM

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Okay my coco has the same face and body structure does that make her a yorkie shih tzu mix???? Nooo she's a pure breed there are yorkies that are up to 20 pounds does that make them silkies noooo my coco is 7 pounds and people always say she's a mix because according to them she is big but she's within standard what we need to realise is that not all yorkies look alike if you saw a blue yorkie would you call that a mix too no I think not they just look diff but are pure yorkies just like the all gold yorkies so gold they look almost orange are they mixes nope they are pure breed a lot or people have said that red legs are mixes but there not its a gene defect I'm sure if people would have seen the pics that were posted on here early of the red leg pup they would have said it was a mix to but did u see the pic of it now it grew hair yes it took a long long time but it turned out to be yorkie.... take my example with humans would you have said the whit twin doesn't belong to the parents because the black and she came out completly white no we have to keep an open mind I'll post a pic of me and my brother so you can see how diff we look yet we came from the same parents I just need to get on the computer because I'm on my friends celly

okay im back here's a pic of me and my brother a few years ago people always say were not related but we are same mom same dad

hha 10-23-2007 07:03 PM

Yes, but your parents aren't yorkies..I'm sure one of your parents is darker..? Most yorkies somewhat(when they're purebred) look alike..

alex_143 10-23-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1456592)
Yes, but your parents aren't yorkies..I'm sure one of your parents is darker..? Most yorkies somewhat(when they're purebred) look alike..

My dad is white but he's mixed with hispanic so he dark not as dark as me but dark and my mom is black peruvian puerto rican and looks plain black and my brother loks nothing like us what I'm trying to say is that genes are trickie little thinks that pop up when ever they like just like blue borns they pop up whenever just like gold yorkies her yorkie might very well be a purebreed just with the redleg gene it happenes we jus gotta wait and see how she turns out

Sharon O 10-23-2007 07:47 PM

Yorkie fraud?
 
I just thought I would chime in with a bit of trivia that we show breeders use to approximate mature weight. At 8 weeks you triple the weight and at 12 weeks you double it to get a good guess on mature weight. So me thinks your are going to have a Big Girl! :) But still cuter 'n a bugs ear!

One other bit of trivia....while your seller said they only had 2 mature yorkies on site.... for those of us who have multiple stud dogs, it is possible to have two different sires of one litter. Dogs continue to ovulate during their heat cycle. The AKC allows us to register a multiple sired litter but we have to DNA test EVERY puppy and the registration fee is really high! :eek:

vviccles1 10-23-2007 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by autumn star (Post 1454811)
I am no yorkie expert but if I had to quess I would say that she if not a fullbreed yorkie. She is adorable though. I love her ears!

I totally agree! She is adorable. She looks to me like she may be crossed with a welsh terrier! Just jove the expression on her face1 Am glad you love her! Best of luck with her,:aimeeyork

Lorraine 10-23-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_143 (Post 1456637)
My dad is white but he's mixed with hispanic so he dark not as dark as me but dark and my mom is black peruvian puerto rican and looks plain black and my brother loks nothing like us what I'm trying to say is that genes are trickie little thinks that pop up when ever they like just like blue borns they pop up whenever just like gold yorkies her yorkie might very well be a purebreed just with the redleg gene it happenes we jus gotta wait and see how she turns out

This is not a redleg. A pb Yorkie pup is born black and tan. A double recessive will be born red or sometimes called chocolate. A blue born is born that, blue but often has a lot of health issues.
This dog is none of these, it is a mix.

alex_143 10-23-2007 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine (Post 1456687)
This is not a redleg. A pb Yorkie pup is born black and tan. A double recessive will be born red or sometimes called chocolate. A blue born is born that, blue but often has a lot of health issues.
This dog is none of these, it is a mix.

Okay so what about the pictures of the redleg that were posted on here that showed it grew up to look all yorkie its the same age as this one in the pic they posted and the same coloring so how do you explain that is it a mix too I think not

chickendido 10-23-2007 09:04 PM

Weener dog/Yorkie???
 
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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1454770)
OK- Let me try this again- Here are some pictures I have put on Photobucket

Edited to add- she is 16 weeks old and weighs just under 5 pounds. Her mom weighed 10 pounds and Dad weighed 6 pounds.

Hi! Your pup is indeed very very cute! :) But my first instinct looking at these pictures was; Wiener dog mixed with Yorkie. The texture of the coat is wirey. The body and the legs are very long. The muzzle is long and of course the color is different than that of a Yorkie or a red yorkie for that matter. There are Yorkies with gene defects which results in what they call "off colored" yorkies, but I think your baby goes beyond that though. There are tons and tons of breeders out there who are breeding dogs that should not be bred simply because they do not represent the standard. A dog's entire blood line needs to be on the up and up because a defect or a different breed dog can show up in the litter many generations later! I've seen puppies from the same litter that had 2 chocolate ones and 2 standard ones! There's a difference between having a different color Yorkie and having a Yorkie that looks nothing like a Yorkie. Reputable breeders go the extra mile, by DNA testing their dogs for gene defects and those breeders will want to have breeder dogs with champions in their lines as well! If breeding is done right, with the right dogs with the right lines, "mistakes" are next to none! This breeder needs to be stopped as she obvioulsy doesn't know her lines very well, trying to report her to the AKC and demanding your money back is worth a try!? Honestly, I don't know what I would do either if I were you (keeping your new baby or not) but I can understand your frustrations as my very first Yorkie, 12 years old now, grew to be 10 Ibs, has huge ears and a funny gait, but he's the smartest and most loyal dog one could ever hope to have and while his "sibling" might be more "attractive" than he is, he sure makes up for it with attitude and I don't ever regret falling in love with him!:love:

MyFairLacy 10-23-2007 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_143 (Post 1456702)
Okay so what about the pictures of the redleg that were posted on here that showed it grew up to look all yorkie its the same age as this one in the pic they posted and the same coloring so how do you explain that is it a mix too I think not

The two dogs looked completely different. On the one that grew a lot of hair, as a puppy they had thin hair - see the long wispys around the face? The OPs puppy has NO long hairs at all - all short, smooth hair.

Doodlebug 10-23-2007 09:09 PM

I think you puppy is adorable regardless if she is mixed or not. I have a little boy who is a Yorkie mix and he is an awesome little boy. I don't think $200 is too much to pay even for a mixed puppy. That is just my thoughts. Also I thought my Yorkie was going to be 7 or 8 lbs and she turned out to be 13 lbs. I LOVE her so much that I don't care how much she weighs!

I'm not saying that your breeder was dishonest because I don't know that. But I would say that 'nice' doesn't necessarily mean that they are honest. I know of a breeder who has sold puppies that she KNEW had parvo and to meet her you would just love her, she is so nice. When people called her and told her the puppies were sick she denied that they were sick when they left her house. I know that not all breeders are like this and I hope that very few are but I do know about this one. I do not mean to offend any breeders here who I believe are honest, so please don't take offense.

I'm glad that you are keeping her and I think you will be glad you did in the long run. Please stay with us and post more pictures as she grows up.

addicted 10-23-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1456725)
The two dogs looked completely different. On the one that grew a lot of hair, as a puppy they had thin hair - see the long wispys around the face? The OPs puppy has NO long hairs at all - all short, smooth hair.

I totally agree with you! :thumbup: I was going to say the same thing. I wonder if it sheds just like the smooth, short haired dogs. Yes, it looks exactly like a yorkie, but the hair is a dead give away. If we all shaved off our yorkies, they would look like that, but the coat looks too much like a chihuahua..... one of those smooth, short haired coats that sheds.

SladesMommy 10-24-2007 07:25 AM

I'm no expert, but I would say she's probably yorkie/chi mix! She is adorable.

I adopted a yorkie/chi mix from the shelter (that now belongs to my mom) and she did eventually get some longer hair on her head, legs, and tail around the time she turned 1. Its not much though. Our Yorkie/chi mix is 15 lbs but could stand to lose some weight.

I hope you'll stick around, there are several ppl here with yorkie mixes, myself included, my little guy is a rescued yorkiepoo. One day I hope to get a purebred.


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