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Nikki+2 · 10-23-2007, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

I expect to see all of the dog breeders and showers and dog show watchers accross the lands to unite and start a boycott and cease all participation and support of all Eukanuba sponsored events immediately. And Animal Planet airs it and takes their money for advertisement, so boycott them too. Not to mentioned that AKC teams up with them when they sponsor their events, so we shouldn't support AKC either, which would include buying AKC reg dogs. PetSmart sells Eukanuba/Iams, so don't shop there....
Geez, you could really get rolling with that one. I in no way think animal cruelty is ethical, but people feeding it to their dogs aren't the only ones supporting the company. It's not just as black and white as 'don't buy their food.' So if I'm supporting this by buying it, at least I'm not the only one.

Wow, I don't know where the sarcasm is coming from.

I'm not out to fight the world I simply choose not to give my money to companies that participate in such unnecessary torture of animals. You are certainly free to make you own choices as well.

BamaFan121s · 10-23-2007, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Wow, I don't know where the sarcasm is coming from.

I'm not out to fight the world I simply choose not to give my money to companies that participate in such unnecessary torture of animals. You are certainly free to make you own choices as well.

Please don't take that in the wrong way. You posted a link and said 'this is what you're supporting if you buy the food.' Well, I buy it, but that doens't mean I think animal cruelty is right. I was just trying to point out that the company is getting support elsewhere as well--if you want to offer the company no support whatsoever, you have to look at EVERYTHING that company is tied to.

Nikki+2 · 10-23-2007, 10:24 AM

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Please don't take that in the wrong way. You posted a link and said 'this is what you're supporting if you buy the food.' Well, I buy it, but that doens't mean I think animal cruelty is right. I was just trying to point out that the company is getting support elsewhere as well--if you want to offer the company no support whatsoever, you have to look at EVERYTHING that company is tied to.

I understand what you're saying. My daughter brings animal rights issues to my attention frequently and it can feel very overwhelming. I do what I can. I do try to avoid supporting companies like this but I don't claim to know them all or all of the ways companies are linked and of course I have no control over other people. To me it's the same as I would never buy from a pet store because I am not going to support puppy mills. Am I putting the puppy mills out of business? Of course not. I only posted the link because I think many people don't know about it. I learned about it here at YT myself in fact. We all do what we think is right and we definitely don't have to all agree on everything.

BamaFan121s · 10-23-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki+2

We all do what we think is right and we definitely don't have to all agree on everything.

Yep.

hha · 10-23-2007, 12:11 PM

You know, although, I feed my dogs a good food now, we had a golden retriever years ago that was on cheap food, usually kibbles and bits..Well, now, her coat was shiny, she was healthy as a horse, and we had her put to sleep at the ripe old age of 18, and that's only because she had cancer..In the time I had her, she never went to the vets for anything other than her rabi shots and the cancer, so, I really don't know on this food thing..the only thing I think with these more expensive foods, is that the dogs don't poop as much, or as often!

tanksmom · 10-23-2007, 12:30 PM

Hey guys. I didnt mean to start something but the post here does show why I hesitated in telling her anything. BUT I did give her my advice and she did take SOME of it. AND her pup will be better off from the info. I gave her. Its a cute little blue heeler mix a very different dog from my Tank. I thank everyone for posting and I hope everyone can smile today

BamaFan121s · 10-23-2007, 01:05 PM

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Hey guys. I didnt mean to start something but the post here does show why I hesitated in telling her anything. BUT I did give her my advice and she did take SOME of it. AND her pup will be better off from the info. I gave her. Its a cute little blue heeler mix a very different dog from my Tank. I thank everyone for posting and I hope everyone can smile today

You'll see that threads tend to go waaaay off topic from time to time.

Sorry bout that.

Raja's Mom · 10-23-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

You'll see that threads tend to go waaaay off topic from time to time.

Sorry bout that.

Haha, agreed. I just get myself all concerned over people who don't know that one food is better than another. Like you said though, that's not directed at anyone here in the least. I think if someone is on YT taking in all this info, obviously they care enough to do what's best. Now if only I could get my dad to stop feeding Beneful....

So deviating more from the topic

I do realize that one person not buying Iams isn't going to make any difference, but it has to start some where right? Plus it's not that outlandish to think there are foods equal or better than Iams for people to switch over to. In any case, I do hope they change their testing policies soon. Anyone wanting to get more involved should poke around the PETA website.

Raja's Mom · 10-23-2007, 03:19 PM

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Oh! By the way I'm a junk food junkie....have been all my life....I love it

I hear you on that!

My pets might eat well, but me? haha that's a different story!!

Mardelin · 10-23-2007, 03:20 PM

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Anyone wanting to get more involved should poke around the PETA website.

Not on my life...there is a differance between Animal Rights Activists and Animal Welfare....

BamaFan121s · 10-23-2007, 04:09 PM

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Anyone wanting to get more involved should poke around the PETA website.

LOL, no thanks. I have more crazy people in my life than I can stomach, another website full of them would be overload!

But I agree with hoping people can take in all sorts of info here and use it to their advantage, not to mention their dog's advantage. People just have different reasons behind what they think is 'good food.'

Mardelin · 10-23-2007, 04:18 PM

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LOL, no thanks. I have more crazy people in my life than I can stomach, another website full of them would be overload!

But I agree with hoping people can take in all sorts of info here and use it to their advantage, not to mention their dog's advantage. People just have different reasons behind what they think is 'good food.'

Agreed...have been doing alot of research on the differnce between ARA & AW.....there is big differences...

A statement made by Ingrid Newkirk, the President of PETA: "I don't use the word 'pet.' I think it's speciesist language. I prefer 'companion animal. For one thing we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had a companion animal in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breedin) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship - enjoyment at a distance."

BamaFan121s · 10-23-2007, 04:22 PM

Well, I've long thought that some of the PETA movements are a bit "extreme" to put it nicely, but that is another story altogether. I support the ethical treatment of animals, but I think as with any cause, if you cannot work towards your goal in a rational manner, then the cause is not only lost, but your actions will have adverse effects on the overall results.

Nikki+2 · 10-23-2007, 04:36 PM

LOL, well now I feel like I have to chime in again even though I promised myself I wouldn't.

I agree with what y'all are saying about PETA. They have gone way too far and have really turned people off which is certainly not in the best interest of animals. I posted that PETA video because it really showed what I was trying to say. Villette posted it a while back and that is how I learned about Iams. PETA goes too far but the video is accurate. I am not involved with PETA in any way. Okay, I'm finished with my disclaimer.

Tanksmom, we tend to get riled up every once in a while but we always kiss and make up. I'm sorry for being a part of taking your thread off topic and I'm so happy to hear that it ended well with your friend.

Mardelin · 10-23-2007, 04:44 PM

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Well, I've long thought that some of the PETA movements are a bit "extreme" to put it nicely, but that is another story altogether. I support the ethical treatment of animals, but I think as with any cause, if you cannot work towards your goal in a rational manner, then the cause is not only lost, but your actions will have adverse effects on the overall results.

What I posted is just a bit of what I have been researching....and only because of what is happening across the country.......I attempt to look at it from both sides now and do so by studying everything I can get my hands on. Did you know that HSUS does not have or ever supported Animal Shelters...right, HSUS and PETA are working together....

10-23-2007, 04:36 PM	#59
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,373	LOL, well now I feel like I have to chime in again even though I promised myself I wouldn't. I agree with what y'all are saying about PETA. They have gone way too far and have really turned people off which is certainly not in the best interest of animals. I posted that PETA video because it really showed what I was trying to say. Villette posted it a while back and that is how I learned about Iams. PETA goes too far but the video is accurate. I am not involved with PETA in any way. Okay, I'm finished with my disclaimer. Tanksmom, we tend to get riled up every once in a while but we always kiss and make up. I'm sorry for being a part of taking your thread off topic and I'm so happy to hear that it ended well with your friend. __________________ "If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men." — St. Francis of Assisi, 1181-1226

10-23-2007, 12:11 PM	#50
hha No Longer a Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seneca, SC Posts: 2,837	You know, although, I feed my dogs a good food now, we had a golden retriever years ago that was on cheap food, usually kibbles and bits..Well, now, her coat was shiny, she was healthy as a horse, and we had her put to sleep at the ripe old age of 18, and that's only because she had cancer..In the time I had her, she never went to the vets for anything other than her rabi shots and the cancer, so, I really don't know on this food thing..the only thing I think with these more expensive foods, is that the dogs don't poop as much, or as often!

10-23-2007, 12:30 PM	#51
tanksmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: texas Posts: 563	Hey guys. I didnt mean to start something but the post here does show why I hesitated in telling her anything. BUT I did give her my advice and she did take SOME of it. AND her pup will be better off from the info. I gave her. Its a cute little blue heeler mix a very different dog from my Tank. I thank everyone for posting and I hope everyone can smile today

10-23-2007, 04:22 PM	#58
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	Well, I've long thought that some of the PETA movements are a bit "extreme" to put it nicely, but that is another story altogether. I support the ethical treatment of animals, but I think as with any cause, if you cannot work towards your goal in a rational manner, then the cause is not only lost, but your actions will have adverse effects on the overall results.