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SgtPeppersMommy 10-11-2007 04:19 PM
If we are going to dog on (pardon the pun) mixed breeds, maybe I'm a member of the wrong site. Keep in mind that all dog breeds were mixed breeds at one point in time and for that matter, the yorkie breed is only 100 yrs old. I think the "intentional" breeding of mixed breeds is perfectly fine to breed the best characterstics of both breeds in question. If it is done is a resposible manner, I think there should be no debate.

BabyFidgette 10-11-2007 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 1428022)
I'd say all the traits haven't totally been breed out. Rrosenberry's Bailey is quite the hunter. He's on the raw food plan, ya know.
OMG! Is that a baby rabbit? :eek:

BabyFidgette 10-11-2007 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SgtPeppersMommy (Post 1428415)
If we are going to dog on (pardon the pun) mixed breeds, maybe I'm a member of the wrong site. Keep in mind that all dog breeds were mixed breeds at one point in time and for that matter, the yorkie breed is only 100 yrs old. I think the "intentional" breeding of mixed breeds is perfectly fine to breed the best characterstics of both breeds in question. If it is done is a resposible manner, I think there should be no debate.
You pick up quickly...Most people here on YT don't agree with mixing breeds. ;) I think your pup is adorable. Let me guess...Yorkie and Maltese? :p

Tillys_mom 10-11-2007 04:27 PM
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, Yorkies were also bred small because the king didn't want anyone to have a dog large enough to kill big animals, such as deer, because that was his food. Yorkies were then the peasants dogs. They had to be able to jump through a 7 inch hoop. Yorkies would sleep in the cupboards to keep the rats away. Sometimes they would be used as shop rags. Workers would wipe their dirty hands on the long coat. I remember reading this somewhere. I thought it was really interesting. :)

Oscar's Mom 10-11-2007 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ketters12 (Post 1428387)
I am confused...most yorkie owners aren't using their dogs to catch "vermits" right?? and most border collies aren't used to round up some cattle...?? Am i correct? MOST is obviously the key word here, some people do use their dogs for tasks and I actually think that is awesome! Dogs are happiest sometimes doing what nature intended.... But your AVERAGE breeder doesn't breed their dogs for the tasks for which they were originally created.. correct? I mean, of course, if yorkshire terrriers are bred correctly, they should IN THEORY have the same traits as their ancestors...correct? (NOTE: I keep saying CORRECT? because I am not a breeder, and I only own one yorkie, so I do not claim to be an expert on the subject, but I think it is HIGHLY interesting to discuss!!) I think people in 2007 breed dogs either to be pets, to breed, or to show. Correct? Does anyone know what started the showing of dogs? That would be interesting to know (sorry if it's been said before, i've only been a yorkie owner since jan)
Well I am pretty sure Bailey's mom does not "use" him to catch rabbits, he just does it because he likes it and I do think it is a trait all dogs are born with. They are in fact hunters by nature. I know people today that use border collies to herd sheep...they are herding dogs and have been for a very long time...it is what they are bred to do. I think most breeders breed dogs to sell and to show. It is up to the owner what the dog is trained to do from there. But I still feel that hunting instincts are natural instincts that have been within dogs since the beginning of time. And I do think if Yorkies are bred correctly they DO carry the natural hunting and tenacious attitudes of their ancestors. They are terriers after all!

bchgirl 10-11-2007 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette (Post 1428424)
OMG! Is that a baby rabbit? :eek:
Not in present tense....;)

daisy mae06 10-11-2007 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BabyFidgette (Post 1428424)
OMG! Is that a baby rabbit? :eek:
thats what i thought!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Bonnie's Mom 10-11-2007 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 1428022)
I'd say all the traits haven't totally been breed out. Rrosenberry's Bailey is quite the hunter. He's on the raw food plan, ya know.
:eek: OMG...I just think that is disgusting :mad:

Oscar's Mom 10-11-2007 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428541)
:eek: OMG...I just think that is disgusting :mad:

She can't help it either...:rolleyes:

daisy mae06 10-11-2007 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428541)
:eek: OMG...I just think that is disgusting :mad:
DITTO I know it is nature but:thumbdown not what i wanna see!

jrsygal37 10-11-2007 05:37 PM
I think it's terrible not only that you'd take a picture of your dog holding a dead baby rabbit, but also be so proud of it by posting it on YT. I guess you condone that. Poor rabbit. Elaine

Bonnie's Mom 10-11-2007 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1428557)
DITTO I know it is nature but:thumbdown not what i wanna see!
I think it was probably a staged picture...but whatever it was whoever took it must be sicko :mad:

Chelsea15 10-11-2007 05:39 PM
umm I dont think she's proud that its a dead baby rabbit, she's proud that her dog can do what it is "suppose to". Dont you guys think your making a bit of a big deal about that?

jrsygal37 10-11-2007 05:43 PM
Yeah, no I don't think any of us are overeacting. I guess some of us just don't share the same mentality as you and she do. :rolleyes: Elaine

Bonnie's Mom 10-11-2007 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Oscar's Mom (Post 1428549)
She can't help it either...:rolleyes:
Well maybe she should try!
:mad:

rrosenberry 10-11-2007 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Chelsea15 (Post 1428568)
umm I dont think she's proud that its a dead baby rabbit, she's proud that her dog can do what it is "suppose to". Dont you guys think your making a bit of a big deal about that?
:goodpost: :bravo:

Bonnie's Mom 10-11-2007 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rrosenberry (Post 1428584)
:goodpost: :bravo:
Why would you even take a picture of something so pitiful:( It just breaks my heart thinking of that precious little innocent baby rabbit :bunny:

MyFairLacy 10-11-2007 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ketters12 (Post 1428387)
I am confused...most yorkie owners aren't using their dogs to catch "vermits" right?? and most border collies aren't used to round up some cattle...?? Am i correct? MOST is obviously the key word here, some people do use their dogs for tasks and I actually think that is awesome! Dogs are happiest sometimes doing what nature intended.... But your AVERAGE breeder doesn't breed their dogs for the tasks for which they were originally created.. correct? I mean, of course, if yorkshire terrriers are bred correctly, they should IN THEORY have the same traits as their ancestors...correct? (NOTE: I keep saying CORRECT? because I am not a breeder, and I only own one yorkie, so I do not claim to be an expert on the subject, but I think it is HIGHLY interesting to discuss!!) I think people in 2007 breed dogs either to be pets, to breed, or to show. Correct? Does anyone know what started the showing of dogs? That would be interesting to know (sorry if it's been said before, i've only been a yorkie owner since jan)
Most dogs are not being used as working dogs any longer although some still do. As for the yorkie, the standard today is far from the original yorkie that was bred to hunt rats. Those yorkies were larger and didn't have the long, silky coat that our yorkies of today have. But eventually an actual standard was written and of course has changed some over the years to what it is today. For most breeds, the reason to breed is to meet that written standard of confirmation. There are some dogs bred as working dogs (ex. hunting dogs, field-working dogs, herding dogs, tracking dogs, sledding dogs) that prove themselves worthy to be bred by excelling in their work. They may not necessarily be comformationally perfect but come from a line of great working dogs so they are bred as working dogs. For instance, huskies bred for sledding do not necessarily look like the huskies being shown in conformation. Anyway, back to yorkies - our yorkies don't work any longer so they are bred for conformation.

rrosenberry 10-11-2007 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428589)
Why would you even take a picture of something so pitiful:( It just breaks my heart thinking of that precious little innocent baby rabbit :bunny:
He was so proud, Daddy was proud.. it was a whole moment.

Oscar's Mom 10-11-2007 05:58 PM
OK...well Bailey WAS proud and he was standing there saying "mamma, take my picture" ... so she did! :rolleyes: AND it IS just a wild rabbit for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:

rrosenberry 10-11-2007 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Oscar's Mom (Post 1428610)
OK...well Bailey WAS proud and he was standing there saying "mamma, take my picture" ... so she did! :rolleyes: AND it IS just a wild rabbit for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:
Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that what this thread is about? :confused:

Bonnie's Mom 10-11-2007 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rrosenberry (Post 1428608)
He was so proud, Daddy was proud.. it was a whole moment.
I should have known there was a Man involved :angry:

:bunny: :animal37

Chelsea15 10-11-2007 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Oscar's Mom (Post 1428610)
OK...well Bailey WAS proud and he was standing there saying "mamma, take my picture" ... so she did! :rolleyes: AND it IS just a wild rabbit for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:
:thumbup: :goodpost: :thumbup:

rrosenberry 10-11-2007 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428618)
I should have known there was a Man involved :angry:

:bunny: :animal37

What you got man problems? :(

MyFairLacy 10-11-2007 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Oscar's Mom (Post 1428610)
OK...well Bailey WAS proud and he was standing there saying "mamma, take my picture" ... so she did! :rolleyes: AND it IS just a wild rabbit for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:
I agree...it wasn't like she went out and bought a rabbit and let her dog kill it. This is part of life. This is what dogs did in the wild for food and this is why my dog eats a raw diet. My dog eats rabbit and venison as her meat source. Our yorkies were bred to have a high prey-drive and I know mine still does. You should see how crazy she acts if she spots a rabbit, frog, lizzard, bird, etc on our walk. She'd kill a rabbit too if she was able to catch one.

Bonnie's Mom 10-11-2007 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rrosenberry (Post 1428614)
Thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that what this thread is about? :confused:
What?? Killing bunnies? I don't think so:(

rrosenberry 10-11-2007 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428624)
What?? Killing bunnies? I don't think so:(
No not that. :rolleyes:not just bunnies, actually.

MyFairLacy 10-11-2007 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428624)
What?? Killing bunnies? I don't think so:(
It's a dog bred to hunt things like this and it caught a bunny and killed it...that's what dogs do. This discussion reminds me of the people that protest trapping and releasing feral cats because they kill birds...um...it's a cat and a carnivore..killing birds and things is what they do... it's life!

Chelsea15 10-11-2007 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonnie's Mom (Post 1428624)
What?? Killing bunnies? I don't think so:(
actually, yes this thread is about yorkies doing what they were originally bred to do. And thats exactly what she posted a pictures of: her yorkie doing what it is "suppose" to do.

rrosenberry 10-11-2007 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1428634)
It's a dog bred to hunt things like this and it caught a bunny and killed it...that's what dogs do. This discussion reminds me of the people that protest trapping and releasing feral cats because they kill birds...um...it's a cat and a carnivore..killing birds and things is what they do... it's life!
Exactly.

If the truth be told..the CAT brought the bunny in the fence and Bailey got it.. there was NO getting it off of him.. I tried.


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