Would this be wrong?

[rrosenberry]

Originally Posted by KelMchel

I have a question and I hope I dont sound ignorant.....I dont know much about puppy mills except what I see mostly when I watch animal planet with the precinct stories and what not, which I LOVE to watch! I love seeing those ppl get shut down, just does my heart good! My question is this....how much is the store selling the puppies for? Are they getting loads of money for these poor little things? We do have a pet store here in our town, not like Pet Smart, but a small locally owned one and I hate to go in there and see the puppies all caged up looking all sad....Im assuming they are coming from puppy mills? They are outrageously priced like you wouldnt believe! And heres another question, if they can go in and seize the animals like on animal planet and stuff, why cant that be done everywhere? So sad.......good luck on your decision!

You should go in that store and be as genuine there as you were asking us..and just see what they say.. they don't want to ADMIT that is where they get there dogs..and they may not.. but you have the right to ask.

And yes there is a HUGE mark up.. they probably mark them up 100% and up..depending on the area.. they know what they can get.

Our area has Dog Auctions.. miller sell their dogs for around 200 and up.. just like an auction,, to the top bidder.. YET.. dogs here sell for.. $800- 1,200 quite the mark up.

[Bruce's_Mom]

They want $1500 for this little guy. I spoke with the manager however, and she said he has been there a while and no one has purchased him, and he needs to go, so if I buy him with cash she will give him to me for $1000.

[xliloliverdiorx]

i would buy him and get him medical attention asap. Its so unfair for him just to lay there and be sick. Yeah you would be giving money to the place thats selling him but just return him in better condition or sell him to a new better owner who's going to love him better than the pet store did.

[MGB]

Originally Posted by Bruce's_Mom

Okay guys, here is the situation...There is a pet store that sells puppies (very clearly mill puppies) across the street from my office. Now I have had some personal problems lately that have distracted me a little bit. Yesterday, however while I was going into the adjacent starbucks I actually looked at the little guys through the window. There was a little yorkie pup just laying on his side looking fairly uncomfortable. So I went in and looked closer and picked him up. He is very clearly in need of medical attention. He seems weak, has green eye discharge and lots of it, and seems to be having serious trouble breathing...I tell them, you need to take this dog to a vet. Then they go into the long schpeel about how whoever buys him can take him to a vet then return him if he is sick, and they will "reimburse vet bills within reason" if it is done in 5 days. I called our locale animal control (which I have called for other things in the past and they do nothing) sure enough they said they could not do much as long as the pup had food, water, and shelter...I feel heartsick for this little guy.

My question is would it be wrong for me to buy him just so I could get him some medical attention and then bring him back? I know you will probably all say yes, but I just feel awful thinking about him and I have to see him everytime I get a coffee.

I know how you feel. Unfortunately, I got my puppy from a petstore. I only purchased him because the contract stated that the puppies were NOT from puppymills. It stated that they came from a breeder. I was ignorant for believing that. It turns out that after doing some investigating, that my puppy was shipped from Korea. I cannot prove that he came from a puppymill but who knows. I just wanted to let you know that usually if you decide to treat the puppy...you cannot return him back to the store. I know because I went through this with Spanky. If the vet claims the puppy is unfit for sale, you have 3 options. You can return the dog for a refund, exchange the puppy or have the store owner pay for all the vet bills. You cannot help the animal and get a refund. This is the New York law but most states have the same policy. You also have to be careful because some states do not even have a Puppy Lemon Law. I can imagine how you feel and it is sad that local animal control will not do anything about it. Those poor puppies did not ask for that kind of life either. I do not think it's fair for any animal to suffer. It truly is a sad situation.

[rrosenberry]

Originally Posted by Bruce's_Mom

They want $1500 for this little guy. I spoke with the manager however, and she said he has been there a while and no one has purchased him, and he needs to go, so if I buy him with cash she will give him to me for $1000.

OMG. He needs to go cause he's sick and will die..and they will loose whatever they have invested in him. OOO What a bargain. Unreal.. I'd ask that Manager how he sleeps at night.

[Tiggerwit]

Oh I'm sorry I feel for you. This is exactly why I stopped going to pet stores when i can help it. Pet Pourri and some great treats and stuff but I have to stick to the wall away from the dogs and get in and out quick. I don't even dare go to the one in Bellevue. I'm such a sucker and it just breaks my heart.

Not to sound rude but I totally don't envy your delima. It's hard to turn your back knowing he needs your help but you know you shouldn't support the puppymill piece of it.

Big hugs.

[ARCHIE]

Just a thought!
Do you have an e-mail address for the animal control that you contacted?
If so let us know it and we can all send them a nice e-mail regarding
their heartless help of a puppy in need.
Which, by the way, is their job to begin with.

[Tiggerwit]

Originally Posted by Bruce's_Mom

They want $1500 for this little guy. I spoke with the manager however, and she said he has been there a while and no one has purchased him, and he needs to go, so if I buy him with cash she will give him to me for $1000.

How much of the vet bill are they going to reimburse you? Maybe you could call your vet and ask him what you could do or if there is some way he or another vet could intervene.

To me it's animal cruelity to not get him medical care if he needs it. How is it that the pet store is protected and any one of us could have a complaint filed on them and our dog possibly taken away and charges filed? What's the dif? That store is responsible for the well being of the pets that are in it.

Pop knot that woman.

[spr377]

I'm a bleeding heart, also. I would do everything possible to get some kind of help for the little guy. I agree with what someone else said....it's not his fault he is there...and I couldn't stand to see him suffer......He doesn't deserve it!!!!!!

[Bruce's_Mom]

Originally Posted by Tiggerwit

How much of the vet bill are they going to reimburse you? Maybe you could call your vet and ask him what you could do or if there is some way he or another vet could intervene.

I spoke with my vet this morning. She said it definetly sounds like he has a respiratory infection and is dehydrated at the very least, and she would want to see him pronto! She also did say treating a respiratory infection can be extremely costly, and that no matter what this pup could not be brought to the home with Bruce until he is treated. She is very concerned because of his age 12 weeks and they say he has only had one set of puppy shots. Is this normal? Basically, she told me the pup, if my description is accurate would likely die with out treatment soon.

My new strategy is calling the humanes society and toting him as a great dog to go pick up, since they could charge a premium adoption fee for an AKC yorkie that is tiny!

[myteddybear]

After we bought our sick one and found out at the vet what was wrong we called the store owner who said bring him back, I'll give you another in his place. When asked what he would do with this little one he said he would kill him as he couldn't sell him.

[Bruce's_Mom]

VIOLA!!! I just had an idea...The off topic section had a thread about Michael Vick cards being sold to benefit animal shelters...I wonder if the Tacoma/Pierce County Humane Society would bite if I offered to donate the $1500 the puppy is priced at to the Humane Society on the condition that they at least go look at him...

I must admit I took the money out of savings this morning, because I have been wrestling with this since yesterday. I do not want to help millers but I e no utility in letting a puppy die in pain, we are going to try this approach!

[yorkiegirl2]

Pet Shop Puppy
I'm a little puppy, so cuddly, sweet and small,
I live inside a cage,
you see at a Pet Store in the mall.
I'm not an only puppy, my sisters are all here.
My brothers, too, except for Ralph who died cause he was scared.
It's lonely here at night-time when all the lights go dark,
We tremble in our cages and we whimper and we bark.
But no one comes to hold us or pet our fears away.
We sit all night in terror til' the store opens the next day.
We don't remember mama, left so far behind.
She did the best she could for us til' the Man said "It is time."
He crammed us all in cages, too small for us, you see.
We rode for hours; we could not help but lay in poop and pee.
And now we sit in a Pet Store where kids come taunt and squeeze.
They do not hear our whimpers or understand our pleas.
We're miserable and it's scary here we all would rather die.
But since we don't, we do our best to run away and hide.
I know you think my story too sad to leave me be.
You want to take me home with you, a happy little puppy.
But please, though it is fearful to live here against our will.
If you take me, that leaves a spot another pup will fill.
You can stop our suffering but not by taking us home.
You must be strong and leave us here, unsold and all alone.
For if you do not take me, then another pup won't come.
And maybe he will not be shipped so far away from home.
Though some of us may not survive the cycle 'ere it falls.
If we don't sell, they will not need more puppies in these halls.
And if they need no puppies then the Man will not bring more.
Eventually it can all stop! You CAN close the door.
So when you see a puppy face so sad and sweet and small.
In a cage at a Pet Store at your neighborhood shopping mall,
The best thing you can do for him is leave him sitting there.
That is the best way you can tell all dogs how much you care.
This poem was taken off of critterhaven.org,
Author Unknown

Although this poem illustrates how harsh you must be and "leave a pup behind" it tells the truth. STOP giving the pet shops that carry dogs money, and they will stop getting the puppies. DOGS ARE NOT A PROFIT - THEY'RE A MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY.
Thanks for visiting this site. Unfortunately, all the information is factual, this really does go on! It's a very sad fact. With your help.. it could all end. Please support us in our efforts to STOP PUPPY MILLS FOREVER!

[JPop & Taz 2]

Originally Posted by myteddybear

After we bought our sick one and found out at the vet what was wrong we called the store owner who said bring him back, I'll give you another in his place. When asked what he would do with this little one he said he would kill him as he couldn't sell him.

They don't care about the babies, only the $$$!!! I wish we could get all the babies from those stores!

[Too Cute Teddy]

I'm not sure about this, but if he got better and was fine after medical care I don't think they would let you take the puppy back. They might reimburse you for the medical bill, but beyond that I think you would probably have to keep him. Also, everything I've ever heard of pet shops I doubt they would even cover the medical bills if it wasn't life threatening or genetic - they know how to word those contracts in such a way that you think you are protected when you really aren't. It really breaks your heart seeing a puppy suffer like that