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08-30-2007, 01:01 PM | #46 |
Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas
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| Also, I've read that a couch potato doesn't need as much protein as a very active doggie.
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08-30-2007, 02:13 PM | #47 | |
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08-30-2007, 02:16 PM | #48 |
I Love My Lil' Punkin's Donating Member | Right now I am feeding my babies Canidae and it is a GREAT food. However, my husband wants me to switch them back over to Chicken Soup as Stedman hasn't been eating very well, and it seems like I remember him eating the Chicken Soup better. He is not a big eater, period...but I do think he ate the Chicken Soup a little better than he has been eating the Canidae. As far as Tate goes, well, I never worry about her. That girl will eat anything you stick in her mouth!
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08-30-2007, 02:18 PM | #49 | |
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Thats too funny. Aubrey is that way. He will eat anything, Dakota is more of the picky eater. | |
08-30-2007, 02:25 PM | #50 | |
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And little Tatum....well I swear she'd eat a slice of lemon if you gave it to her. She is such an oinker!
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08-30-2007, 02:51 PM | #51 | |
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08-30-2007, 02:57 PM | #52 |
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| mine do well on Innova.
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08-30-2007, 04:20 PM | #53 | |
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Canidae & an occasional treat is all my guys get. | |
08-30-2007, 05:02 PM | #54 | |
I Love My Lil' Punkin's Donating Member | Quote:
These babies of ours are such handfuls! And they DEFINITELY don't realize how good they've got it!
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08-30-2007, 06:25 PM | #55 |
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| Dog Food Gracie eats Artemis Small Bites for Small Adult Dogs. She just loves it and comes running when she hears me put it in her ceramic dish. The kibble is much smaller than Innova Small Bites---she's more picky about the size of the kibble, I think, than the taste. Artemis smells like salmon when you open the bag. |
08-30-2007, 06:43 PM | #56 |
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| Personally, IMO, I do not like Science Diet, Iams, and some of the others that have alot of grains and by-products in them. I am feeding Innova right now. I had them on Welliness but they are not too crazy about it. I have to have a very low protein for one of my female schnauzers because she has kidney disease and they put her on k/d which is Science Diet. So, she eats the k/d and I suppliment it with the Innova. I mix the wet with the dry and they like it. The vets get like a 30% kick back on the S.D. |
08-30-2007, 08:00 PM | #57 |
~Izzie~ My Lil' Sweetie Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: So. California (Santa Clarita)
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| My lil one has been on Euk since I got her and it is now time to purchase a new bag of food...(I've had her 4 mths now) I am really confused as I have gotten samples of Natures Balance, Canidae, and Blue. Of course she enjoys them all....Can anyone recommend which one would be the best Plus she has changed her eating habits from eating 1/3 cup first thing in the morning, and then again 1/3 cup @ 6:00 pm. She now doesn't want to eat at all during the day/evening and instead waits till during the hrs of 12:00-3:00 am....I know she has been teething and may also be getting close to her first heat....She is 7mths old...Any shed of light would help alot.....
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08-30-2007, 08:56 PM | #58 |
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| Had a couple of comments here... First off, the whole conspiracy theory about vets and Hills and euthanized animals in food (?!) is just ridiculous. I do all the food orders for a veterinary hospital, and if I'm supposed to be getting kickbacks, they're waaaay behind in their payments. I think the thing with vets recommending Hills or Iams or the other bleh foods out there is due solely to the fact that for 20 odd years, those brands have been on the market as quality foods-- and they ARE better than, say, Ol' Roy or a lot of the other crap that people feed their dogs. It isn't anything malicious or crazy; many vets have specialties other than nutrition, have been recommending those brands for a long time, and continue to do so. Our vet feeds Canidae to his dogs, and when people ask, we tell them that. But there are a lot of folks out there who have been using Hills or Iams for years and believe in those brands. It isn't some sort of evil conspiracy; it's just the line between older thinking in veterinary nutrition and newer ideas. Anyhoo... I feed my yorkie a cycle of foods. There's a lot of nutritionists who believe that keeping a dog continuously on one food will make them more susceptible to developing food allergies. I rotate what I feed; currently, we are on a cycle of Burn's Mini-Bites (a holistic chicken and rice food), Canidae PAWS (original formula, which has several protein sources), and California Natural's Lamb and Rice Puppy. I buy small four or five pounds bags, and switch her when the bag begins to run out, changing the food over gradually in the course of five days in order to avoid tummy upset. She always seems happy when we switch; it renews her interest in her food to keep new flavors rolling in. I don't feed any of my animals Hills, Iams or Eukanuba. I believe that all of them are overpriced and generally are low-quality foods. I do have one pet that requires a veterinary diet due to serious food allergies; he is on IVD, which is the veterinary diet line of Royal Canin. Royal Canin has its drawbacks, but at least it doesn't use ethoxyquin (a potentially carcinogenic preservative that is in a shocking number of pet foods, including some Hills and Eukanuba formulas). Read the label before you feed anything to your animals. If it contains a lot of corn, don't feed it. If it contains by-products, avoid it. If it contains ethoxyquin, stay well away from it. If it is full of chemicals whose names look unpronounceable and it seems suspicious, it probably IS suspicious. A good rule of thumb is to avoid foods that sound like something YOU would never want to eat, because odds are good that your dog shouldn't be eating it either!
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08-31-2007, 05:48 AM | #59 |
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| Most vets say Science Diet as the company gives them the food to promote it... I'd never feed it.. Last bout of bad food with the melmine in all of their food and even before that I had dogs sold to other have bad reaction too it having all kinds of test run on them.. I told the owners to put on Royal canin Yorkshire and not treats unless all natural or just give treat from table like cheese or lean peices of chicken.The dogs straighten right out. I do feed natural balance meat rolls as treat as well but only the turkey. I wouldn't feed Science Diet to anything cat or dog. |
08-31-2007, 07:29 AM | #60 |
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| You can always refer to this for more information: The Right Stuff: Choosing a Good Pet Food So how can pet owners choose the right food for their pets? CVM's pet food specialist William Burkholder, D.V.M., Ph.D., recommends examining three parts of the pet food label: the life stage claim, the contact information for the manufacturer, and the list of ingredients. Pet owners should look for the word "feeding" in the life stage claim (found in the nutritional adequacy statement on the label). This means the food was proven nutritionally adequate in animal feed tests. Another item to check on the label is the contact information. Pet owners should look for the manufacturer's telephone number. Only the manufacturer's name and address are required, but people should be able to call manufacturers to ask questions about their products, says Burkholder, and manufacturers should be responsive. "They will not tell you how much liver, for example, is in their product, because that's part of their proprietary formula. But they should tell you how much of any nutrient is in the product." The ingredients list on the label is an area of consumer preference and subjectivity. Pet owners who do or do not want to feed a pet a certain ingredient can look at the list of ingredients to make sure that particular substance is included or excluded. Some people prefer to pass up animal by-products, which are proteins that have not been heat processed (unrendered) and may contain heads, feet, viscera and other animal parts not particularly appetizing. But protein quality of by-products sometimes is better than that from muscle meat, says Burkholder. "Meal" is another ingredient that some people like to avoid. In processing meat meal or poultry by-product meal, by-products are rendered (heat processed), which removes the fat and water from the product. Meat or poultry by-product meal contains parts of animals not normally eaten by people. Some consumers try to avoid pet foods with synthetic preservatives, such as butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA), butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), and ethoxyquin. Ethoxyquin, in particular, has been hotly debated. Current scientific data suggest that ethoxyquin is safe, but some pet owners avoid this additive because of a suspected link to liver damage and other health problems in dogs. CVM has asked pet food producers to voluntarily lower their maximum level of ethoxyquin in dog food while more studies are being conducted on this preservative, and the industry is cooperating. Many products preserved with naturally occurring compounds, such as tocopherols (vitamin E) or vitamin C, are available. These products have a much shorter shelf life than those with synthetic preservatives, especially once a bag of food is opened. Some animal nutritionists recommend switching among two or three different pet food products every few months. Burkholder says nutritional advice for people to eat a wide variety of foods also applies to pets. Doing so helps ensure that a deficiency doesn't develop for some as yet unknown nutrient required for good health. When changing pet foods, add the new food to the old gradually for a few days to avoid upsetting the pet's digestive system. There is more at the link below: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2001/301_pet.html Now, then, this is the label from just one of Hill' Pet Foods. I wouldn't feed it: Ingredients: Lamb Meal, Brewers Rice, Rice Flour, Ground Whole Grain Wheat, Ground Whole Grain Sorghum, Corn Gluten Meal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Animal Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Dried Beet Pulp, Soybean Oil, Chicken Liver Flavor, Flaxseed, Potassium Chloride, Iodized Salt, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, vitamins (L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Taurine, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid, Beta-Carotene, Rosemary Extract. Guaranteed Analysis %: Protein (min) 19.5 Fat (min) 13 Fiber (max) 2.5 Calcium (min) 0.7 Phosphorus (min) 0.5 http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/p...ML9PXM2H67BWW7
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