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motya · 08-20-2007, 06:11 AM

Hi!
I just got my first Yorkie puppy few days ago and I want to share with you my feelings and got advices from experienced dog lovers. First of all I was amazed how quickly she learned to go on a pee pad. She was not trained to do that at breeder's house. But for some reason she is not that consistent with poo thing. Is there a reason for that?
Second, in matter of 3 days she became really active, running and jumping. She can't jump on a bed or on a couch yet, but she tries like a cat using her nails to climb on.
She is so adorable, but like any baby it is hard to get a good sleep when she is in the same room. Few time she woke up, asked for attention and go to sleep again. Sometimes she wants to play and won't calm down for an hour. What should I do about it? I live in the house and I have basement where I won't hear her crying. Do you think it would be too bad? She would feel comfortable there, just nobody around.
Any advices would be appreciated - about anything, not just what I asked.
Thanks!

Sugar's Mom · 08-20-2007, 06:23 AM

well, you asked so in my opinion it is cruel to banish her to the basement. perhaps you should re-home her. her behavior is because she is a baby and it takes time to learn the things you mentioned. What she is doing is normal puppy behavior. Clearly, you were unprepared. BTW, welcome to Yt. We are very passionate about our babies and the way they should be treated so don't take personal offense at some of the answers I know you are going to get.

lara2913 · 08-20-2007, 06:30 AM

If you brought a new baby home would you put them in their own room straight away and ignore their cries? I doubt it.

Its the same with puppies, in my opinion the best thing to do is to have the puppy in your room with you. If you are not prepared to get up with her in the night then you should not have a puppy. Puppies are hard work, you need to spend months putting the time and effort into her. Its unreasonable to expect her to be perfect straight away, she's a baby.

Not trying to sound harsh, I just don't think you seem to understand what having a puppy is about, enjoy her! You will miss the puppy stage once its gone. Welcome to YT.

chachi · 08-20-2007, 06:38 AM

Hi I see you are new so first thing I wanted to say is welcome. You dont want to keep her away from you in the basement. You want to put her in an xpen, a crate, playpen or a gated room. She is crying because she misses her Mom and littermates but will stop after she gets more used to her new environment. Good luck

Hokule'a · 08-20-2007, 06:46 AM

Aww, congratulations on your new baby

Yes, they will cry at night and keep you up until they get used to staying in their crate or pen. I kept mine in a crate right next to my bed and whenever she cried I told her 'shhh, time to sleep' and I'd stick my fingers through the gate and she would fall asleep leaning on them. You can put an article of your clothing in there with her so she can smell your scent.

As for the spurts of energy and climbing all over everything - yup, she's right on track

puppy_Love08 · 08-20-2007, 06:50 AM

I grew up with dogs. Seems like we always had one or more while I was growing up. Since I've been married, we have had one dog - a Maltese we had to put to sleep a month ago. We plan to get a Yorkie in less than two months. Even though we have had a dog before, I have been reading everything I can get my hands on before we bring our puppy home.

Based on my research, it is perfectly acceptable to let your puppy sleep in a different room than where you sleep. It is perfectly acceptable to ignore crying and calls for attention in the middle of the night (one disclaimer: if your puppy is very young, he may need to use the bathroom in the middle of the night until he is a bit older. I don't recall at what age they should be able to sleep through the night without going potty.). If you continue to allow him to tell you to "wake up" in the middle of the night to PLAY, then this behavior will continue as you reward him with his wish.

Someone compared ignoring a baby to ignoring a dog. A dog is not a human, and when we use human psychology on our dogs, we cause them to become unstable and take over as the pack leader. You want to be the pack leader, not the dog. I babied my last dog and treated him like my human baby. Big mistake. He took over the house, and I became his follower.

I strongly recommend reading "Casar's Way" by Cesar Millan. He will help you understand dog psychology and how harmful we are to our DOGS when we attempt to "humanize" them. You can still have an affection and wonderful relationship with your dog, even if you are the pack leader.

puppy_Love08 · 08-20-2007, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hokule'a

Aww, congratulations on your new baby

Yes, they will cry at night and keep you up until they get used to staying in their crate or pen. I kept mine in a crate right next to my bed and whenever she cried I told her 'shhh, time to sleep' and I'd stick my fingers through the gate and she would fall asleep leaning on them. You can put an article of your clothing in there with her so she can smell your scent.

As for the spurts of energy and climbing all over everything - yup, she's right on track

Good idea about the article of clothing! Our last puppy cried the first night we had him, but he did fine the second night and from there on out. We have a box fan in our room and turned it up on high so we couldn't hear the crying.

motya · 08-20-2007, 09:07 AM

Thank you very much for your understanding.
I adore my little dog and I am prepared to do whatever it takes for her, but I also believe that I shouldn't spoil her. Plus, one sleepless night after another can drive anyone crazy.
What I planing to do so far is to let her sleep with me in the same room, but if she became too hyper and wants me to play with her - I'd take her to the room where I can't hear her.
My daughter is 12 now, but I still remember how it was to have a baby. But human babies cry when they are hungry or sick. There are babies who just love to be on mommy's hand, but this is not right and I pity those moms.
So my question to you, professional pet lovers - do I have to feed my dog during the night, do I have to play with him if he wants to play during the night? And if not - what the point to have him next to me and hear him crying then not hear him crying. For the dog - no difference, for me - big difference.
Anyway, to say is one thing , to do is another. I don't know yet if I can do that, but I want to try.

Rubi · 08-20-2007, 09:23 AM

Hi, welcome to YT. Now, I don't think the puppy is going to cry all night. Puppies are very playful, full of energy but they also tire out very easly after having those playful outbursts. I would also keep her in my room where I can keep an eye on her if for whaterver the reason there's something wrong with her. It would give peace of mind. Just give her a couple of days, she'll get used to her new surroundings. She sure cannot cry all night, puppies need to sleep many hours, more than grown up dogs.
Rubi.

HallTx1203 · 08-20-2007, 09:32 AM

First of All...Welcome.....You have come to a great place for advice and possible friendships...There are the nicest people here.

I just got my new pup Brodie on Friday. He is 4 months old. We are crate training. What I have been done is put the crate by my side of the bed. Friday night, He whined and cried pitfully. I just rolled over and stuck my fingers thru the wires of the crate and rubbed his back and ears....He settled down beautifully. He whimpered a couple times thru out the night and I just repeated the process. On Saturday night at bed time, he whimpered, I stuck my fingers thru again and petted him and baby talked him. He settled down quickly and I only had to do it twice. On Sunday night, he settled down all on his own. IMHO I felt he just needed the reassurance and I gave it to him. I also feel that by doing this I am making him feel more secure in his crate and in me. Remember, we have taken them away form the only home and mom they have ever had.

You can really learn alot from the people here on YT if you will listen and read what they say.

Now I will get off my soap box.

windsor'smom · 08-20-2007, 09:36 AM

Welcome to YT! How old is your new puppy? This makes a such a huge difference in their behaviors, feeding and potty needs too. Enjoy your new addition and enjoy Yorkie Talk, lots to talk about and learn here.

puppy_Love08 · 08-20-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by motya

So my question to you, professional pet lovers - do I have to feed my dog during the night, do I have to play with him if he wants to play during the night? And if not - what the point to have him next to me and hear him crying then not hear him crying. For the dog - no difference, for me - big difference.
Anyway, to say is one thing , to do is another. I don't know yet if I can do that, but I want to try.

Not only do you not have to play or feed your puppy during the night, you should NOT. Your puppy does not need to be fed during the night, and he needs to establish a sleeping/awake cycle that suits YOU, which means your dog should sleep through the night like you do. Your puppy will eventually stop crying at night. And if you stop playing with him at night when he wakes up and just ignore him, he will sleep through the night (or at least not wake you up if he stirs). You can always let him sleep somewhere else until he gets his days and nights in order and then move him back into your room.

lara2913 · 08-20-2007, 09:57 AM

I just thought i'd mention something VERY important when it comes to yorkie puppies. Hypoglycemia! You really really need to be vigilant in watching for signs of this (pale gums,weakness, confusion and possibly seizures) which is one of the reasons I think its a good idea to have her in the room with you. If she should become sick in the night, you need to be aware of it straight away and if she is in a basement, you will not be able to be.

myla57 · 08-20-2007, 10:20 AM

First, I agree with every post. I have three babies, 2 Yorkies and a Westie. I got the Westie first when she was 8 weeks old. I crate trained her. Then I adopted a puppy mill rescue Yorkie who was five years. She had already been trained was used to being by herself. I had to teach her it was okay to be around people. Then I bought Rowdy my five month old Yorkie. I'm letting the other two dogs train him. As for sleeping arrangements with Rowdy, I have let him sleep with me since I brought him home. He sleeps all night and never hardly moves until I wake up and take them all outside. The other two sleep with me sometimes but they had rather have their own space. I believe in the motto: "Don't sweat the small stuff."

Lexi Rae · 08-20-2007, 12:15 PM

i must say , its really rough in the beginning, i used to let lexi out of her
crate every hour on the hour, then every two hrs and so on....i was
totally exhausted, but i took her in and she was my responsibility.
we all went through it.. promise you, it will get better....just be patient
and it will all work out... you surely came to the right place to learn..
welcome and enjoy

08-20-2007, 06:11 AM	#1
motya Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 15	new puppy Hi! I just got my first Yorkie puppy few days ago and I want to share with you my feelings and got advices from experienced dog lovers. First of all I was amazed how quickly she learned to go on a pee pad. She was not trained to do that at breeder's house. But for some reason she is not that consistent with poo thing. Is there a reason for that? Second, in matter of 3 days she became really active, running and jumping. She can't jump on a bed or on a couch yet, but she tries like a cat using her nails to climb on. She is so adorable, but like any baby it is hard to get a good sleep when she is in the same room. Few time she woke up, asked for attention and go to sleep again. Sometimes she wants to play and won't calm down for an hour. What should I do about it? I live in the house and I have basement where I won't hear her crying. Do you think it would be too bad? She would feel comfortable there, just nobody around. Any advices would be appreciated - about anything, not just what I asked. Thanks!

08-20-2007, 06:23 AM	#2
Sugar's Mom BANNED! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 9,248	well, you asked so in my opinion it is cruel to banish her to the basement. perhaps you should re-home her. her behavior is because she is a baby and it takes time to learn the things you mentioned. What she is doing is normal puppy behavior. Clearly, you were unprepared. BTW, welcome to Yt. We are very passionate about our babies and the way they should be treated so don't take personal offense at some of the answers I know you are going to get. Last edited by Sugar's Mom; 08-20-2007 at 06:25 AM.

08-20-2007, 06:30 AM	#3
lara2913 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,920	If you brought a new baby home would you put them in their own room straight away and ignore their cries? I doubt it. Its the same with puppies, in my opinion the best thing to do is to have the puppy in your room with you. If you are not prepared to get up with her in the night then you should not have a puppy. Puppies are hard work, you need to spend months putting the time and effort into her. Its unreasonable to expect her to be perfect straight away, she's a baby. Not trying to sound harsh, I just don't think you seem to understand what having a puppy is about, enjoy her! You will miss the puppy stage once its gone. Welcome to YT. __________________ Indy, Benjamin and Malachi There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face- Ben Williams

08-20-2007, 06:38 AM	#4
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Hi I see you are new so first thing I wanted to say is welcome. You dont want to keep her away from you in the basement. You want to put her in an xpen, a crate, playpen or a gated room. She is crying because she misses her Mom and littermates but will stop after she gets more used to her new environment. Good luck __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

08-20-2007, 06:46 AM	#5
Hokule'a Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 4,591	Aww, congratulations on your new baby Yes, they will cry at night and keep you up until they get used to staying in their crate or pen. I kept mine in a crate right next to my bed and whenever she cried I told her 'shhh, time to sleep' and I'd stick my fingers through the gate and she would fall asleep leaning on them. You can put an article of your clothing in there with her so she can smell your scent. As for the spurts of energy and climbing all over everything - yup, she's right on track __________________ Eva and her keikis: Hokule'a, Kalani & Pi'ilani

08-20-2007, 06:50 AM	#6
puppy_Love08 YT Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: AL Posts: 465	I grew up with dogs. Seems like we always had one or more while I was growing up. Since I've been married, we have had one dog - a Maltese we had to put to sleep a month ago. We plan to get a Yorkie in less than two months. Even though we have had a dog before, I have been reading everything I can get my hands on before we bring our puppy home. Based on my research, it is perfectly acceptable to let your puppy sleep in a *different* room than where you sleep. It is perfectly acceptable to ignore crying and calls for attention in the middle of the night (one disclaimer: if your puppy is very young, he may need to use the bathroom in the middle of the night until he is a bit older. I don't recall at what age they should be able to sleep through the night without going potty.). If you continue to allow him to tell you to "wake up" in the middle of the night to PLAY, then this behavior will continue as you reward him with his wish. Someone compared ignoring a baby to ignoring a dog. A dog is not a human, and when we use human psychology on our dogs, we cause them to become unstable and take over as the pack leader. You want to be the pack leader, not the dog. I babied my last dog and treated him like my human baby. Big mistake. He took over the house, and I became his follower. I strongly recommend reading "Casar's Way" by Cesar Millan. He will help you understand dog psychology and how harmful we are to our DOGS when we attempt to "humanize" them. You can still have an affection and wonderful relationship with your dog, even if you are the pack leader. Last edited by puppy_Love08; 08-20-2007 at 06:51 AM.

08-20-2007, 09:07 AM	#8
motya Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 15	Thank you very much for your understanding. I adore my little dog and I am prepared to do whatever it takes for her, but I also believe that I shouldn't spoil her. Plus, one sleepless night after another can drive anyone crazy. What I planing to do so far is to let her sleep with me in the same room, but if she became too hyper and wants me to play with her - I'd take her to the room where I can't hear her. My daughter is 12 now, but I still remember how it was to have a baby. But human babies cry when they are hungry or sick. There are babies who just love to be on mommy's hand, but this is not right and I pity those moms. So my question to you, professional pet lovers - do I have to feed my dog during the night, do I have to play with him if he wants to play during the night? And if not - what the point to have him next to me and hear him crying then not hear him crying. For the dog - no difference, for me - big difference. Anyway, to say is one thing , to do is another. I don't know yet if I can do that, but I want to try.

08-20-2007, 09:23 AM	#9
Rubi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Madrid (Spain) Posts: 167	Hi, welcome to YT. Now, I don't think the puppy is going to cry all night. Puppies are very playful, full of energy but they also tire out very easly after having those playful outbursts. I would also keep her in my room where I can keep an eye on her if for whaterver the reason there's something wrong with her. It would give peace of mind. Just give her a couple of days, she'll get used to her new surroundings. She sure cannot cry all night, puppies need to sleep many hours, more than grown up dogs. Rubi.

08-20-2007, 09:32 AM	#10
HallTx1203 Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: CENTRAL TEXAS Posts: 1,867	Welcome First of All...Welcome.....You have come to a great place for advice and possible friendships...There are the nicest people here. I just got my new pup Brodie on Friday. He is 4 months old. We are crate training. What I have been done is put the crate by my side of the bed. Friday night, He whined and cried pitfully. I just rolled over and stuck my fingers thru the wires of the crate and rubbed his back and ears....He settled down beautifully. He whimpered a couple times thru out the night and I just repeated the process. On Saturday night at bed time, he whimpered, I stuck my fingers thru again and petted him and baby talked him. He settled down quickly and I only had to do it twice. On Sunday night, he settled down all on his own. IMHO I felt he just needed the reassurance and I gave it to him. I also feel that by doing this I am making him feel more secure in his crate and in me. Remember, we have taken them away form the only home and mom they have ever had. You can really learn alot from the people here on YT if you will listen and read what they say. Now I will get off my soap box. __________________ Joyce and Shelby

08-20-2007, 09:36 AM	#11
windsor'smom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 554	Welcome to YT! How old is your new puppy? This makes a such a huge difference in their behaviors, feeding and potty needs too. Enjoy your new addition and enjoy Yorkie Talk, lots to talk about and learn here. __________________ NOBODY CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF LOVE UNLESS THEY'RE OWNED BY A DOG

08-20-2007, 09:57 AM	#13
lara2913 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,920	I just thought i'd mention something VERY important when it comes to yorkie puppies. Hypoglycemia! You really really need to be vigilant in watching for signs of this (pale gums,weakness, confusion and possibly seizures) which is one of the reasons I think its a good idea to have her in the room with you. If she should become sick in the night, you need to be aware of it straight away and if she is in a basement, you will not be able to be. __________________ Indy, Benjamin and Malachi There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face- Ben Williams

08-20-2007, 10:20 AM	#14
myla57 Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Kentucky, USA Posts: 109	My Opinion First, I agree with every post. I have three babies, 2 Yorkies and a Westie. I got the Westie first when she was 8 weeks old. I crate trained her. Then I adopted a puppy mill rescue Yorkie who was five years. She had already been trained was used to being by herself. I had to teach her it was okay to be around people. Then I bought Rowdy my five month old Yorkie. I'm letting the other two dogs train him. As for sleeping arrangements with Rowdy, I have let him sleep with me since I brought him home. He sleeps all night and never hardly moves until I wake up and take them all outside. The other two sleep with me sometimes but they had rather have their own space. I believe in the motto: "Don't sweat the small stuff." __________________ Myrna,Pixie and Rowdy Pixie www.dogster.com/dogs/508252 Rowdy Jack www.dogster.com/dogs/546910 Member of the Little Gentlemen's Club

08-20-2007, 12:15 PM	#15
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	i must say , its really rough in the beginning, i used to let lexi out of her crate every hour on the hour, then every two hrs and so on....i was totally exhausted, but i took her in and she was my responsibility. we all went through it.. promise you, it will get better....just be patient and it will all work out... you surely came to the right place to learn.. welcome and enjoy __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...