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alex_143 · 08-19-2007, 09:20 PM

hey guys, i have a question i have a 6pound yorkie names coco and i want to breed her in the future so i want to buy a male that will be small around 2-3pounds maybe even 4 but nothing more so does anyone know of a good breeder that has pups of that size that meet the breed standard almost perfectly because coco has big ears and a bit of a longer nose so i want to breed thouse traits out i do not plan on breeding her for another year and want to learn as much as i can about breeding and breeding the right way i will not get offended about anything you guys have to say so please post your opinons thank you and i hope to hear from you soon.
~alex~

MyFairLacy · 08-19-2007, 09:26 PM

I don't know of any breeders, but I just wanted to say that I've heard from knowledgable breeders that large ears and long noses are a dominate trait and VERY hard to breed out. Hopefully some of the breeders on this site can give you more advise.

Superstarkba · 08-20-2007, 03:32 AM

I would try re posting this in the breeder section. I do know that it will be hard to find a dog a specific size, because a breeder can only guess that size it can be. Like my dog Aubrey is 12 lbs, and the breeder said he would NOT be more than 7 lbs...

YorkieMaineiac · 08-20-2007, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by alex_143

hey guys, i have a question i have a 6pound yorkie names coco and i want to breed her in the future so i want to buy a male that will be small around 2-3pounds maybe even 4 but nothing more so does anyone know of a good breeder that has pups of that size that meet the breed standard almost perfectly because coco has big ears and a bit of a longer nose so i want to breed thouse traits out i do not plan on breeding her for another year and want to learn as much as i can about breeding and breeding the right way i will not get offended about anything you guys have to say so please post your opinons thank you and i hope to hear from you soon.
~alex~

You can't breed out those traits. If you don't want big ears and a long nose then you'll have to buy a bitch that doesn't have them.

Even if your male is perfect in every way the babies could still have the mothers traits.

Yorkiekids · 08-20-2007, 04:27 AM

From what I understand you have to have all the traits of the breed in both the male and female to produce a good litter. Plus you have to have all the tests done.

Ellie May · 08-20-2007, 07:27 AM

I could be totally wrong about this but I think I have read that the bitch shouldn't be any older than three for a first breeding. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. How old is your girl?

jeanief · 08-20-2007, 10:22 AM

Like the others said, even if you have a perfect male, the pups can have the traits of the mother. A male you use for breeding will mark your house too. Having a litter of puppies is wonderful if all goes well.

If not, it can be a heartbreaking , gut wrenching experience.

Huge vet bills with a emergency c-sec and no sleep for days if the pups don't nurse and you have to feed them. You also will be responsible to find forever great homes for your pups, offer a health guarantee, and be able to answer all the questions your buyer will have. As I write this my friend just called, and her dog is due today and is having a green discharge. 95% of the time that means a pup has detached from the wall of the uterus and should be born within a few minutes. Her dog in NOT in labor at all, and the last time she had a green discharge too, and 1 pup was dead and 1 alive. ( with a C-sec.) She is very upset and is rushing into the vets right now. She just told me NEVER AGAIN, Mia is getting spayed, this is to upsetting. You need to ask yourself, why do I want to have a litter of puppies ? Am I starting out with the best healthy and quality sire and dam? Do I have the time to raise the pups, and the $$ if things go wrong? Do I want to put my female dog at risk? Do I want to deal with people coming to my home to see the pups and am I able to answer all the questions about the health and care of the pups. If a genetic problem occurs in the future on a pup, am I able to refund the people's $$ or replace the puppy. Just a few things to consider....

alex_143 · 08-20-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ellie May

I could be totally wrong about this but I think I have read that the bitch shouldn't be any older than three for a first breeding. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. How old is your girl?

she is 9 months old and is curently having her first heat i bought doggy pads but she takes them off and has put blood all over my bed and couch lol

alex_143 · 08-20-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanief

Like the others said, even if you have a perfect male, the pups can have the traits of the mother. A male you use for breeding will mark your house too. Having a litter of puppies is wonderful if all goes well.

If not, it can be a heartbreaking , gut wrenching experience.

Huge vet bills with a emergency c-sec and no sleep for days if the pups don't nurse and you have to feed them. You also will be responsible to find forever great homes for your pups, offer a health guarantee, and be able to answer all the questions your buyer will have. As I write this my friend just called, and her dog is due today and is having a green discharge. 95% of the time that means a pup has detached from the wall of the uterus and should be born within a few minutes. Her dog in NOT in labor at all, and the last time she had a green discharge too, and 1 pup was dead and 1 alive. ( with a C-sec.) She is very upset and is rushing into the vets right now. She just told me NEVER AGAIN, Mia is getting spayed, this is to upsetting. You need to ask yourself, why do I want to have a litter of puppies ? Am I starting out with the best healthy and quality sire and dam? Do I have the time to raise the pups, and the $$ if things go wrong? Do I want to put my female dog at risk? Do I want to deal with people coming to my home to see the pups and am I able to answer all the questions about the health and care of the pups. If a genetic problem occurs in the future on a pup, am I able to refund the people's $$ or replace the puppy. Just a few things to consider....

i love your post it was very honest i am sorry to hear about your friend i have been worried about the risks, i want to have a litter of pups to help improve coco's line and improve the breed, i know she is healthy im still confused about the quality of my dam i had another post where i posted pics and some of the ladies on her judged her and told me she had a good coat and markings just that her ears where a bit big and nose was long which i have found out are dominant traits, for the sire i wouldnt mind getting a older dog not a pup so that i could be sure of the weight and the grand parents to and i want to get one that is top of the line with a good pedigree, i have just got my life in order im getting my own apt with my fiance and where moving in this sat he works at the lax airport and makes a decent living so i think financialy i would be okay if something where to happen cause ive heard that c-sections come out expensive so i think i might open a saving account just for coco incase problems like this arise, If a genetic problem where to occurs in the future on a pup, I would be able to refund the people's money or replace the puppy. i wouldnt mind ppl coming to see the pups and i know that more money gets put in the pups than i actually make after they are sold i think i have learned and am still learning about the health and care of yorkies they are my life and favorite dog/animal in the world!!! i really want to find a mentor which is what ive heard is a good thing to do to learn from there is so much to learn and there are risks i want to get coco tested but im not sure what that genetic test is called??? i am so excited about this but i wont jump into this till i feel confident i can do it!!!

jeanief · 08-20-2007, 07:59 PM

Sounds like you are on the right track and not jumping into it

Just for a update my friend lost all 4 pups with the C-sec. That normally never happens, but in this case it did, and she is over the top upset.....

alex_143 · 08-20-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanief

Sounds like you are on the right track and not jumping into it

Just for a update my friend lost all 4 pups with the C-sec. That normally never happens, but in this case it did, and she is over the top upset.....

i was just reading about that it sounds like there is something fishy going on there like something the vet did wrong i am soo sorry to hear this i hope her furbaby heals up okay and yup im definatly not jumping into this i want to be very prepared first since there are so many risks involved thats one of the reasons that i want to get a smaller stud i have found alot around near my area but there are way bigger yorkies and i dont want her to get big pups that might get stuck in the birth canal lol im parinoid but i guess in some aspects thats a good thing.

alex_143 · 08-22-2007, 07:36 PM

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08-19-2007, 09:20 PM	#1
alex_143 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,041	Quick Question Need all your responses plz hey guys, i have a question i have a 6pound yorkie names coco and i want to breed her in the future so i want to buy a male that will be small around 2-3pounds maybe even 4 but nothing more so does anyone know of a good breeder that has pups of that size that meet the breed standard almost perfectly because coco has big ears and a bit of a longer nose so i want to breed thouse traits out i do not plan on breeding her for another year and want to learn as much as i can about breeding and breeding the right way i will not get offended about anything you guys have to say so please post your opinons thank you and i hope to hear from you soon. ~alex~

08-19-2007, 09:26 PM	#2
MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	I don't know of any breeders, but I just wanted to say that I've heard from knowledgable breeders that large ears and long noses are a dominate trait and VERY hard to breed out. Hopefully some of the breeders on this site can give you more advise. __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

08-20-2007, 04:27 AM	#5
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	From what I understand you have to have all the traits of the breed in both the male and female to produce a good litter. Plus you have to have all the tests done. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

08-20-2007, 07:27 AM	#6
Ellie May And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI Posts: 17,928	I could be totally wrong about this but I think I have read that the bitch shouldn't be any older than three for a first breeding. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong. How old is your girl? __________________ Crystal, Ellie May (RIP), Rylee Finnegan, and Gracie Boo🐶

08-20-2007, 03:32 AM	#3
Superstarkba Aubrey's Mom Donating Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 9,369	I would try re posting this in the breeder section. I do know that it will be hard to find a dog a specific size, because a breeder can only guess that size it can be. Like my dog Aubrey is 12 lbs, and the breeder said he would NOT be more than 7 lbs...

08-20-2007, 10:22 AM	#7
jeanief YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 307	Like the others said, even if you have a perfect male, the pups can have the traits of the mother. A male you use for breeding will mark your house too. Having a litter of puppies is wonderful if all goes well. If not, it can be a heartbreaking , gut wrenching experience. Huge vet bills with a emergency c-sec and no sleep for days if the pups don't nurse and you have to feed them. You also will be responsible to find forever great homes for your pups, offer a health guarantee, and be able to answer all the questions your buyer will have. As I write this my friend just called, and her dog is due today and is having a green discharge. 95% of the time that means a pup has detached from the wall of the uterus and should be born within a few minutes. Her dog in NOT in labor at all, and the last time she had a green discharge too, and 1 pup was dead and 1 alive. ( with a C-sec.) She is very upset and is rushing into the vets right now. She just told me NEVER AGAIN, Mia is getting spayed, this is to upsetting. You need to ask yourself, why do I want to have a litter of puppies ? Am I starting out with the best healthy and quality sire and dam? Do I have the time to raise the pups, and the $$ if things go wrong? Do I want to put my female dog at risk? Do I want to deal with people coming to my home to see the pups and am I able to answer all the questions about the health and care of the pups. If a genetic problem occurs in the future on a pup, am I able to refund the people's $$ or replace the puppy. Just a few things to consider....

08-20-2007, 07:59 PM	#10
jeanief YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 307	Sounds like you are on the right track and not jumping into it Just for a update my friend lost all 4 pups with the C-sec. That normally never happens, but in this case it did, and she is over the top upset.....

08-22-2007, 07:36 PM	#12
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