Pet Registrations

[MYC]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

The only registries I think are reputable in the US are AKC and UKC. The others are basically there to register anything else that can't be registered with AKC or UKC and so that people can still claim that their puppies are "registered". There are so many crappy registries out there that don't mean a thing and will register any dog - whether it is a mixed breed or purebred.

Lacy is not AKC registered - she is registered with a registry that isn't worth anything to me. The only reason I even sent in the paperwork was just to have it. At the time I got Lacy I just wanted a puppy so bad and didn't really care what she was registered with. From now on though I plan to only buy AKC registered puppies.

Lacy is so so adorable though. She of course is a purebred. I totally agree that having AKC registered is a good idea.

[spiked_poodle]

I would not purchase a pup that was not AKC registered. Just my preference.

[La Princesa]

I would not purchase a dog that was not AKC registered. at the same time I would not purchase just any dog from just any breeder just because the said their dogs were AKC registered. The AKC standards is a great place to start but like people said breeders and their intentions go from one end of the spectrum to another.

To me there is no point to register to a secondary registry for a country. It would that accepts the primacy Registries rejects, unless you wanted to get into a club to show and actually be a participating member of that particular club. Whose to say that a group of puppy millers cant get together and create a new registry just to appeal to the market and sell their puppies. Whose to say they they have not already done so?

With that in mind if your dog is not registered AKC why even register it with another place if u never planed to show? to me thas just a waste of money and at that point all that matters is the love that you give that pet. IMO

[scrapindee]

There are some American clubs and groups that have decided to be independent and are now promoting their own registry/s. Of course maybe the question should be iasking a breeder is: why are they (the breeder) no longer with a recognized registery when you are buying a "pet" from them??

While every organization or registry has to have a beginning, I wonder how this would affect a purchaser. If you buy one dog to breed, you'll have to register in one registry (pricier too, but it always has) and if you buy as a pet, you register somewhere else. And what if you decide to try and show before spaying or neutering, will you have to register somewhere else?

[zoeybear]

Both my Mini Schnauzer and my Yorkie are AKC. We registered them, then got them spayed without breeding either one. We have no reason to breed. There are enough pets to go around already. We dont show either. I did feel like it was important to have the AKC registration. I feel like it at least gives you a record of where the dog came from and who is involved. If there are champions in the line, at least you know that this is someone who is showing dogs, and hopefully not just churning out litters in their garage.

[scrapindee]

Zoey is adorable. My Cruiser likes the pacifier too.

I agree. I want to see the continuity of the line whether they are pets or bred. That is why I asked the question whether have a pet registered is important.

[Toby'sMama]

Originally Posted by scrapindee

There are some American clubs and groups that have decided to be independent and are now promoting their own registry/s. Of course maybe the question should be iasking a breeder is: why are they (the breeder) no longer with a recognized registery when you are buying a "pet" from them??

While every organization or registry has to have a beginning, I wonder how this would affect a purchaser. If you buy one dog to breed, you'll have to register in one registry (pricier too, but it always has) and if you buy as a pet, you register somewhere else. And what if you decide to try and show before spaying or neutering, will you have to register somewhere else?

Yes, there are some American clubs and groups promoting their own registry. Your own Club is one of them. Maybe check in the dictionary to see what a registry is. Here's one I found quickly without spending a lot of time...

Source: WordNet (r) 1.7

registry
n : an official written record of names or events or
transactions [syn: register]


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

Registry \Reg"is*try\ (r?j"?s*tr?), n.
1. The act of recording or writing in a register; enrollment;
registration.

2. The place where a register is kept.

3. A record; an account; a register. --Sir W. Temple

In response to your comment -- "iasking a breeder is: why are they (the breeder) no longer with a recognized registery when you are buying a "pet" from them??" The "pet" buyer might be interested in finding out what the reputation of this "recognized registery" is, and WHY they are no longer with it.

But again -- you're speaking about Apples and Oranges. This is "YORKIE Talk" not "BIEWER Talk" and by your posts over the last couple of days, it's obvious you're trying stir up discord, where it's not needed.

[TootiesMom]

My Hopey is AKC, Tootie is CKC.. I wouldnt care if they were XYZ.. I love these babies with all my heart. when I got Tootie I didnt know better, when I got Hope, I was so in love with her and impressed with her breeder(lksdolls) Linda, that it wouldnt have mattered if she had a regisstration at all.. I did send in both of their papers just because I could...
My other two furbabies are not registered at all and they are no different to me than the babies who are...
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[YorkieShadow]

I think it all depends on what you are buying the dog for, Me my self I wnated a pet. I got Mickey who was AKC Great price Ch pedigree. Then I wanted a female. Looked at many AKC puppys then I found Minnie, Minnie is CKC and I paid way more for her then I did for my AKC why becuase she is the one I wanted. Her Father is AKC with many Ch in his pedigree, But The mommy was CKC and sense I knew this breeder and believed what she told me about the parents to her female and I loved the way Minnie looked,And the way her parents looked. so i could careless about Her CKC .I would of bought her with out any papers. I have had people wanting me to put them on a list if I ever decided to breed them and they all know the puppys would be CKC.
I have also had two AKC breeders who have never used CKC only AKC offer me to use their AKC Ch Studs for my CKC Female.

[scrapindee]

The registration doesn't matter for a lot of buyers; there was quite an interesting discussion last week about the importance of the papers especially when you pay for a "registered" dog. I frequently see "no papers" in newspaper ads.

Since that thread went about 22 pages, I thought it would be interesting, and still do, on whether it is the idea of the pup/dog being registered, or is the registry what is important?

[BamaFan121s]

Any registry is only as good as the breeder promoting it. I know that AKC is the 'cream of the crop' according to the masses, but that doesn't mean the dogs they are breeding and registering are. You can have bad breeders, with unhealthy dogs that are poor representations of the breed with ANY registry. I guess it also depends on the individual looking. I know some people who given a perfect dog with no registration vs a lesser dog with registration would take the registered dog any day.

[scrapindee]

Very good point here that hasn't been brought up before.

[Yorkiekids]

It didn't really matter to me with Piper, but when I got Penny I definetly wanted AKC registration.

[Luckyone]

Bella's a pom/yorkie so there wasn't an option there.

My lab Bridget is akc. I bought her from my cousin Mike and had thought about showing/agility etc. Bridget is a beautiful dog but not show quality. Her coloring is the fox red but she has too much white on her. I was disappointed by that but shame on me for not doing my research. And I often get asked what kind of dog she is.

So is registration important to me? I used to think it was but I think you're right in the it's only as good as the breeder behind it. I would gladly take a beautiful example of any breed without the registration. But at the same time, it can be a testimony too of what you have.

[fourdez]

I have 3 yorkies and 2 Chihuahuas. All the breeders gave me the papers to AKC register them, but I never sent in the papers... Its just not important to me. Years ago, I would register my dogs and then proceed to never see those papers again.