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NODAK 06-11-2007 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett (Post 1171361)
well - the original question was "If your dog strongly disliked any member of your family would you keep the dog?" & people answered honestly...as the thread went on - it because more about the person who asked and really none of us knows anything about that situation -

I think most of us are posting because we care about dogs and want to help - but it's up to Nodak to make the choice of keeping the puppy and working with him or maybe finding a home where someone can pay more attention him.

If it were me and I didn't feel I could offer 100% to a a puppy then I think I'd consider re-homing now before the puppy is settled in especially if there isn't any bonding going on...OR - Nodak can just be happy his girlfriend's happy and try to bond more - this is a little baby at 13 weeks. They change so much as they grow - but I still think he's alone too much.

That's a very well-said answer as well. A lot of wisdom in that post.

MissSophie 06-11-2007 11:22 AM

My daughter and her boyfriend fostered a dog that had been badly abused by a man. The dog was terrified of men. However, they agreed to work with the dog. Wally is a larger dog and could do damage if he bit, but he was more shy and terrified than aggressive. Ed was becoming very frustrated with Wally as he could not even get Wally in the kennel. He carried treats around in his pocket, and after a few weeks, Wally would shyly go to him for a treat and run away. However, my daughter had a trip to Germany planned that summer, and Ed was left alone with Wally and their other dog. When Julie came home, Wally was much better and would come to Ed. They adopted Wally, and he has been with them for about a year. He is still shy and a little stand off-ish, but they were willing to hang in there. I think if you are consistent and work with the dog in a loving manner, as long as the dog is not vicious, it will work out in the end.:)

mrlmonroe 06-11-2007 11:38 AM

Nodak,

I have read a lot of this - I'm not going to judge you, I think you are trying to do your best.

One thing I know that our little girl likes is if my partner raises his voice (higher pitched, not higher volume) when calling our baby.......she responds better to that (I know most Men are uncomfortable with that, but it does work). :p

Giving him treats will work - the best way to a man's and dog's heart is through their stomach :)

Playing with him - throw a stuffy and let him bring it back to you. This is a forever game, and will make him feel happy around you.

Yes, my girl loves me, but I'm not sure she loves me more than my partner. At different times she seems to favour one of us - it changes. So Yorkies don't have to have only one favourite. Not in our case anyway......she just wants lovin - no matter who's giving it to her. And attention.

With regards to the time you can spend I have to admit my partner and I don't have as much time as we would like to spend with our baby. So, what we do is have a dog walker come in every day, half way through the day, to break up the day. So she is 5 hours alone in the morning, 5 hours in the afternoon, and then gets 5 hours or so with us. Not ideal, but she seems happy.

During the day we put up a doggy gate in our kitchen, and leave LOTS of toys, chewies, water, and her kennel (door open) for her to go in and crash, or just play/eat/drink - whatever. She doesn't have accidents anymore, because we did crate train her. We used to have her in the crate 5 hours, then out for the walk, back in the crate - and that got potty time on schedule. But we had a small crate - as we were told that was the only way to break the accidents (she won't soil where she sleeps) and they like the feeling of comfort of the closeness of the kennel. I'm so glad she graduated to being in the kitchen (8 months) because I want her to have freedom, but needed to learn first.

So that is what has worked for us. Maybe it can help you?? If you want to have a puppy love you, you have to love it first :)

Take care, hope it works out......

patty58 06-11-2007 11:42 AM

Oh my gosh, I just read this whole thread. My heart breaks for this poor baby boy. First at 13 weeks being crated all day. Second 2 big humans he doesn't even really know yet chasing him around the house and yelling at him. And then a big gruff man getting upset at him when he is trying to find some comfort with his mommy. And yes, Mr. Nodak, you came to a forum where most of us think of these little animals are our babies. I have 3 grown children and 3 grandchilren and I love them all deeply but my Murfee loves me no matter what and he loves my husband too. But what we did, even though my husband didn't want a dog, was love Murfee unconditionally from the moment he came into our lives. I'll bet your little Tanner feels your jealously because he prefers Heidi over you. That is natural. Most animals of any kinds prefer one person over the other. My husband and kids know that I am Murfees favorite person but they don't hold it against him and Murfee loves them too. My advise would be to rehome him asap if you can't get over your jealousy issue. Patty

crb 06-11-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NODAK (Post 1171023)
You are saying what I believe to be true...but there is no way on this green earth that Heidi would agree to rehome the dog. No way. You'll have to trust me and how well I know her.

If you don't think Heidi will rehome the pup, then basically you will just have to deal with the fact that the puppy hasn't warmed up to you yet. It has only been a week, if Heidi is the one that picked him out, carried him in the car and into the home, then of course he is going to be attached to her; you just have to give him time. Have you ever been home with the puppy alone or is Heidi always there?

We have 5 yorkies and although they like my husband and son, when I am home they follow me around and sit by/on me when I sit down, and one of them is supposed to be my husbands, but what can you do, they pick their person, when we are picked we are the lucky ones.

crb 06-11-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Doodlebug (Post 1171088)
It sounds to me like you have control issues and you are jealous of the little dog. If I were Heidi I would keep the dog and rehome you.

I'm with you!!!

Anna Banana 06-11-2007 11:56 AM

Your dog does not "strongly dislike" you, as you continue to say. He's not attatched to you yet, it doesn't happen instantly. Work with him, and don't be the jerk that makes his fiance get rid of her new companion because you're jealous of a canine.

browniesmom622 06-11-2007 01:19 PM

shes right in a way the dog sits in a crate all day by itself that is neglect and then gets scolded when you arn't watching the dog

im done with this thread im very surprised the admin hasent locked it yet
since its not going anywhere
i still dont understand why you even posted it you dont take our advice and have a answer back for everything
some people here have owned yorkies there entire life take there advice you've only had one you dont like for a week

Either take better care of the puppy or please find it a new home im sure someone here would love to take him

AprilLove 06-11-2007 02:00 PM

I just read this whole thread. My 2 cents for what it is worth. Because I care about dogs and any companion animals a great deal. Please keep in mind that this puppy was taken from the only life it knew to this point and put into a home with strangers, away from its mother. Dogs are pack animals. One week is not going to give you a clear picture on how this dog will bond. It takes time. Think about it. Also think about if a creature that was oh, just guessing here, 40 times your size came running after you, would you be scared? If you catch your pup in the act, don't run after him, make a loud noise to deter him. (clap your hands, say "eheh" loudly, shake a can with coins etc) Then calmly take him to where you want him to do his business and praise the heck out of him when he does. They do learn, but these little guys are a lot more sensitive than a lot of other breeds to our voices (pitch, anger, love, praise, etc) Praise and Reward are FAR superior to scolding and punishment, you will reap the rewards of your patience with a happy companion animal. Please think about the long term and do what is right for this little guy. Please. And please don't crate him for that long. Many have posted very good suggestions on alternatives for you, so I won't reiterate. Just remember this is a living, feeling creature, being.

Connie 06-11-2007 02:05 PM

Is this thread a joke? If not, I pity that poor yorkie! You've had this yorkie one week and expect him to be affectionate to you? Good grief...give this poor baby some time! He is away from his mom and littermates and trying to adjust to that. What are you going to do when this puppy is not potty trained in one or two days? Yorkies are known to take up to a year to fully train and from your posts, your training methods sound pretty harsh and you're not home enough to train that puppy anyway. You sound to me like a control freak and if someone or a pet doesn't give in to your every whim and desire, it drives you crazy. Under ordinary circumstances I'd say to be patient and this puppy will warm up to you, but in your situation, I think this poor baby would live in fear of you all of his days. This puppy needs a new home! I hope you do the right thing and find him one...and...think long and hard before deciding to have children! What a catastrophe that could be!

NODAK 06-11-2007 02:08 PM

Wouldn't you know it...I get home today...and the dog is being absolutely adorable...

Running after me in the yard....
Jumping all over me....
Laying on me...
Laying between my neck and pillow..haha...

This is so different...

chachi 06-11-2007 02:10 PM

Oh that is great! See you just didnt give it enough time.

Surfie and Tiki 06-11-2007 02:10 PM

Well, kudos to you for coming to this board for advice before you got your puppy. Too bad you listened to none of it, I never could figure out why people waste their time and other's seeking advice when they discard it. Anywho, from what I understand through this post, Tanner is caged from 10pm through 5:30 pm with a 15 minute break.........
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...20&postcount=1

What a heartbreaker ~ and I seriously doubt he is out of solitary confinement for the whole four hours during the evening you are home. (Through your own admission you tire of him during this short period of time) I hope you and Heidi take a serious look as to what is best for this little guy, what you are doing to him is neglect at best. It tears out my heart, can't you at least wake up a bit earlier in the AM and take him for a nice walk or something, come on 15 minutes, what a dreadful situation for Tanner...........:mad: The fact that he has not warmed up to you is the least of my worries.........

SJK1113 06-11-2007 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NODAK (Post 1170871)
Even a husband?? Or do you consider a husband to be "immediate family"?? I seriously hope you wouldn't take a Yorkie over the person you pledged to spend the rest of your life with.

Sounds to me like you're jealous of the puppy. My yorkie is much more attached to me than my hubby, but that doesn't bother him. I'm the one who does the majority of taking care of him since I'm home all day. He takes care of him in the eve. when I'm at work. I would never have bought a dog if we were only home 4-5 hours a day.

You have only given this poor puppy ONE week and you're already using those horrible words..."get rid of". You haven't given him time to bond and get used to his new family and surroundings yet. Maybe the dog senses that you resent him, it sure sounds that way to me. You're expecting way too much out of this little puppy!

I really hope that if the two of you have kids and the kid bonds closer to your fiance than you, that you can handle that because guess what? Most babies prefer their mothers for a long time!

My husband would never expect me to "get rid of" Jake just because he's closer to me than to him. Jake loves my hubby, he just prefers me. My husband sees nothing wrong with that because Jake is my dog, and my husband knows that Jake makes me happy. He would never dream of "getting rid of" him because my husband is an adult and doesn't feel threatened by my dog. And, I would never even consider rehoming him just because he isn't as close to my husband as he is to me. That is just ridiculous and beyond my comprehension!

I think the only advice I could give you is to rehome this dog so that he will have a chance to be loved and taken care of and not resented.

patty58 06-11-2007 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NODAK (Post 1171716)
Wouldn't you know it...I get home today...and the dog is being absolutely adorable...

Running after me in the yard....
Jumping all over me....
Laying on me...
Laying between my neck and pillow..haha...

This is so different...

So now after a whole day of p#ssing and moaning about "it" you come home and let him out of his crate and he is being adorable. What if tomorrow he goes back to being Heidi's baby or maybe he poops on the floor. Is that going to hurt your ego again and we have another day of listening to you whine. Get over yourself!

pea496 06-11-2007 02:35 PM

If I were you, I would definitely not have children until you grow up. I doubt Heidi would leave a baby for "Chris and Heidi time" when you have had enough of a child and wish to get away!!!

Good luck, and please rehome your yorkie. They need more time and attention than either of you can or want to give.

SJK1113 06-11-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NODAK (Post 1171042)
Oh...and in case you want further proof the dog doesn't come before me, daisy-mae, all I have to do is tell Heidi I want "Chris and Heidi" time....

...and she puts away the dog immediately and comes upstairs with me. No asking twice. Seriously, putting a dog before your significant other is silly.

(Edit: And I do that sometimes just so I don't have to have the dog around me. Works like a charm.)


You sound like a control freak to me. Not only do I feel sorry for the puppy, I feel sorry for Heidi too.

browniesmom622 06-11-2007 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by patty58 (Post 1171738)
So now after a whole day of p#ssing and moaning about "it" you come home and let him out of his crate and he is being adorable. What if tomorrow he goes back to being Heidi's baby or maybe he poops on the floor. Is that going to hurt your ego again and we have another day of listening to you whine. Get over yourself!

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

SJK1113 06-11-2007 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1171047)
Oh and I don't know about everyone but my Dogs/cat and I sometimes comunicated better than my Kid. LOL

I agree! Especially when they're teenagers!

SJK1113 06-11-2007 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozzie'sperson (Post 1171197)
Hmmmm. Her family.
Her friends.
Now a puppy.

Sorry, but there's a lot more going on here than frustration with a dog.

And with potty-training already an issue, it's only going to get worse.

I guess if he alienates enough people, he thinks Heidi will be under his control. Divide and conquer. How sad. If I were Heidi, I'd see all these red flags and I'd rehome the fiance and keep little Tanner.

SJK1113 06-11-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dior'sMom (Post 1171281)
For someone that works 20 hours a day, you sure have a lot of time to respond to EVERY comment made.

That's what I was thinking too. Seems to me that it would be time better spent to try to bond with Tanner. But, he doesn't really want to bond with him. He wants to "get rid of" him because the fiance is paying too much attention to Tanner and not the almighty control freak.

I have to wonder if he's just trying to keep us riled up. :rolleyes:

SJK1113 06-11-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patty58 (Post 1171738)
So now after a whole day of p#ssing and moaning about "it" you come home and let him out of his crate and he is being adorable. What if tomorrow he goes back to being Heidi's baby or maybe he poops on the floor. Is that going to hurt your ego again and we have another day of listening to you whine. Get over yourself!

He only got "adorable" after someone threatened to call the ASPCA:rolleyes:

Brutus'mama 06-11-2007 03:09 PM

I don't believe any of this. It's too scary if it's true.

red98vett 06-11-2007 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfie and Tiki (Post 1171718)
Well, kudos to you for coming to this board for advice before you got your puppy. Too bad you listened to none of it, I never could figure out why people waste their time and other's seeking advice when they discard it. Anywho, from what I understand through this post, Tanner is caged from 10pm through 5:30 pm with a 15 minute break.........
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...20&postcount=1

What a heartbreaker ~ and I seriously doubt he is out of solitary confinement for the whole four hours during the evening you are home. (Through your own admission you tire of him during this short period of time) I hope you and Heidi take a serious look as to what is best for this little guy, what you are doing to him is neglect at best. It tears out my heart, can't you at least wake up a bit earlier in the AM and take him for a nice walk or something, come on 15 minutes, what a dreadful situation for Tanner...........:mad: The fact that he has not warmed up to you is the least of my worries.........


I hadn't seen that - Crated that long ?? from 10pm through 5:30 pm with a 15 minute break?? :( :(
NODAK - NO wonder this puppy isn't bonding - he doesn't know how to act out of his crate - that's WAY WAY TOO LONG ...

please take everyones advise and change how you care for this puppy....Yorkies are especially people oriented and you're doing him a big dis-service keeping him penned up this much. Poor little guy - he's just a baby ....puppies love to play and really do need human contact. That's just too much time spent alone for him

njoydaride 06-11-2007 03:35 PM

I didn't read the entire thread, but before re-homing the dog, I would exhaust all possible ways to get the dog to like you. Since you are only home for only a few hours a day, why not take a walk with your dog. Just you and the dog. That way you'll have a bond that your fiance and the dog won't have. Try positive training with treats. It doesn't have to take an hour out of your day. Try just 10 minutes. I hope everything works out!

I Love Bailey 06-11-2007 03:42 PM

I just read through this post and first of all a week is not enough time to bond with the both of you. Give it some time. I am glad when you came home he was happy to see you. Our girls run to the door with toys when my husband comes home, they know he will sit on the floor with them for about 1/2 hour and play with them. Even though our girls like everyone in my family, they are both very attached to me and prefer me over everyone else. Is my husband or our children offended? No, they just laugh about it and joke that since they are my dogs I need to feed them etc...:rolleyes: .
The next thing is to invest in an xpen, put food, water, toys a bed (or the kennel in there without the door) and a pee pad. That way the puppy can get some exercise during the day and play. You may have a small mess to clean up at first and a puppy to bathe but he will get the hang of it very quickly.
I know a lot of people kennel their dogs I am not one of them, probley because I would not like to be confined to a small space for 8 hrs or more. I feel it is cruel.

Keep us posted on your progress;)

Dina_Nichole 06-11-2007 04:29 PM

Hi, I'm not trying to be rude but I really don't believe this puppy is right for you and your fiancee. Poor Tanner has only been with you and your fiancee for a week and your already on this form discussing the possibility of rehoming him. First, you came to a place where most of us consider our animals as children. (expect to be criticized for some of the statements you have made about not being home and etc.) Every person will have their opinion on where an animal should stand in life. Many of us on here do put our furbabies first and again this is our right. I am definately one of those people and proud of it. :)

I have three furbabies and I'm also engaged to a wonderful man. When we got our Princess Pia she was a very timid little girl. She still to this day fears many people. For over 6 months she wouldn't go to my fiancee on her own but being the good man that he is, he didn't give up on her. He works with her and they are gradually bonding. She loves me to death and wants with me 24/7. Is my fiancee jealous of this? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Would he ever even consider bringing up the idea of rehoming her just because they don't share the same bond? NEVER! My fiancee loves all three of our furbabies regardless of who they love more. If he ever spoke about animals the way that you do, he would be GONE!

I think both you and your fiancee are very immature. You obviously did NO research about this breed. You simply got a dog because she wanted him and now this poor baby is the one suffering. Having only 4-5 hours in the day to contribute to Tanner is NOT enough and please don't have children. Oh and one more thing. This is a 12-13 week old puppy, he will absolutely have accidents and potty training will take even longer with the way you and your fiancee are going about it.

Please rehome this baby and allow it to bond with a family that will love it dearly. It honestly seems like this was a puppy bought with no thinking done. Someone mentioned that you brought the puppy home after your vacation. :thumbdown I have to wonder is this because the both of you didn't want your vacation ruined by having to take time to tend to a new pup. :confused: This should have been the first sign that this pup wasn't right for the both of you.

Perhaps someone on here could buy this puppy. Yes, you may be out of some money but perhaps that will teach the both of you to think before you ever decide to bring another furbaby into your home.

yorkiegirl83 06-11-2007 04:49 PM

In my opinion, you are completely too irresponsible to own a fish, let alone a yorkie. This is a life here, and it sounds like it has a really sad existance in your home.

Dogs need TIME to bond with their families. They all have different personalities and preferences. They need a LOVING family to give them time to explore and find their personalities and they need someone who has the time, energy and CARING to devote to training them.

You wanted a dog for it to do what? Sit in a cage all day, then you expect it to be trained and wonderful? From what I can see you wanted this dog for your own enjoyment, when YOU wanted to enjoy it.. who cares about it's quality of life, right?

This is so sad, and I truly hope you do rehome the little guy to someone who knows a thing or two about loving a dog and giving it the life it deserves.

littlewhip 06-11-2007 04:59 PM

I just sat and read this entire thread, you have got to be kidding me:mad: keeping a puppy caged up all that time:mad: you came to a great place to get advice from very caring , loving yorkie pet owners, and yes they are our babys :) tanner will love you if you love him.

xBUTTERCUPx 06-11-2007 07:09 PM

I have only read about half of the posts on here and I don't even know where to begin.

My husband bought me my first and last yorkie for my birthday in April of 2006. The dog never liked him and always feared him til this day. He never brought up the idea of rehoming the dog because he knew how much it meant to me. I asked him that if he liked, then I would find another home for my little yorkie and he said no because he knows that I would be miserable without the little dog. He thinks that if I'm happy then he is happy no matter what or who dislikes him.


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