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Old 05-20-2007, 04:32 PM   #1
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Animal Smiley 019 Full registration. do i spay her? pro, cons?

Im getting my puppy with full AKC registration.
I DO NOT plan on breeding her, it seems FAR too complicated. im gonna get slammed for this, but what if one day i do decide to breed her? it isnt at all likely, but hey, who knows?
2nd and most importantly , i dont like the idea of ripping out body parts. i meen they have to be there for a reason. surgeries are risky with anesthesia and all. and the recovery seems pretty painful.
and for what? there is NO chance this dog can get pregnant. my other dog is neutered and shes not going to be kept outside or be allowed to roam free obviously.

consider the 2nd reason more than the 1st. because im really 99.9% sure im not going to breed her, im just thinking out loud.

Maybe you guys could do a pro/con list to spaying so that this doesnt turn into a screaming match lol
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You already made up your mind , there is no need for a spay , don't spay list .
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Old 05-20-2007, 04:55 PM   #3
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I would suggest spaying her.

Its really not that big of a surgery. I have had 10+ dogs (mine plus several fosters) altered and all have bounced backed without any problems. I had Laney done at 3 mnths old and she was only 3 lbs and was fine the day after, in fact I had to keep her crated to keep her activity level down b/c she was wanting to run and jump everywhere.


It eliminates the possibility of her getting uterine or ovarian cancer. And if she is spayed before her first heat it even reduces her chance for breast cancer.

We recently had to see our 20 yr old suffer from cancer bc she was never spayed (but never had puppies) and it wasn't a pleasant experience to say the least.

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http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/wh..._your_pet.html
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I have heard that there is an increased risk of cancer - ( I think maybe uterine cancer?) - if your female is not spayed. I would ask your vet their advice. I have a 10 year old collie that was never spayed either and the vet says that now at her age there would be no health benefit but I wouldn't want her to get pregnant either-yikes! But she's never had a pregnancy and at this point, I don't see any reason to put her thru the surgery.
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Im getting my puppy with full AKC registration.
I DO NOT plan on breeding her, it seems FAR too complicated. im gonna get slammed for this, but what if one day i do decide to breed her? it isnt at all likely, but hey, who knows?
2nd and most importantly , i dont like the idea of ripping out body parts. i meen they have to be there for a reason. surgeries are risky with anesthesia and all. and the recovery seems pretty painful.
and for what? there is NO chance this dog can get pregnant. my other dog is neutered and shes not going to be kept outside or be allowed to roam free obviously.

consider the 2nd reason more than the 1st. because im really 99.9% sure im not going to breed her, im just thinking out loud.

Maybe you guys could do a pro/con list to spaying so that this doesnt turn into a screaming match lol
Well, I wouldn't spay her based on what you have said but there are thousands of people on here that think it is almost a sin to have a dog unaltered and they will be sure to voice their opinion just as I have mine. your other dog is altered, you have no plans to breed but as you said, there MIGHT be a very small chance somewhere down the road and you feel that the surgery and anesthesia could be harmful. it could. Just as harmful as breeding could be so it's a matter of personal choice. yorkies bleed very little when they are in heat and usually keep themselves very clean so there is no mess to deal with.
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I had Sadie spayed to totally rule out the possibility of mammary cancer - which is a big concern with unspayed females - according to my vet and everything I've read.
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If you are not going to breed then why not spay. It decreases the risk of cancer and they don't go into heat every 6 months. Why would you want the worry of her getting bred accidently by some strange dog.

They can be in heat and you not know it and you take her to a park and "Wham bam, Thank you mam".
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Have you ever been around a female dog in heat? They worse than teenagers. My mothers dog, got preg through a chain link fence. And of course neighbors dog was of a different breed.

Puppies all looked like they had different daddy too. All 4 of them.

Male dogs can smell "it" from a long ways away. You want a pile of male dogs in your front yard when she goes into season? Better yet, digging under your fence to get a chance at her?

And she might wind up being the "digger" trying to get out where male dogs are too.

Not to mention cancer.
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I am kinda in the same boat not sure about breeding but really enough with the cancer crap (sorry) maybe as humans we should cut out excess parts when we are done with them for the same reason ?
As humans we are far less likely to get breast/mammory cancer when we have nursed babies/used the parts.
Funny cause my Chewys a boy, but did lose my mother to breast cancer,not so funny.
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I felt the same way .... I am not going to breed so why get them fixed ... and I had only had female dogs.... (shih tzus ) Out of 5 female dogs in 30 years.... 3 of them had mammy tumors.... 2 of them died from them....
I am a firm believer now to get them fixed... I Have had 2 male Yorkies and there is no question as to getting them fixed....
Good Luck with your decision .
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Old 05-20-2007, 06:29 PM   #11
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i have a male dog. hes neutered and doesnt hump, mark or anything like that. will he know when shes in heat? i just spoke to my vet & he sais i can get the puppy and wait a while and i dont have to spay right away. Im sure ill feel alot better, but i just read an article about a puppy (chihuahua) dying under anestsia and that freaked me outa bit.
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My female is five and she is not spayed. She has never been bred either. Although spaying greatly reduces mammory tumors, it increases instances of cardiac hemangiosarcoma and hypothyroidism. There has also been some research done showing that there are more health risks for altered males than unaltered. The females are a harder call but I can't justify pulling out body parts jus because there might be a problem someday.
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My female is five and she is not spayed. She has never been bred either. Although spaying greatly reduces mammory tumors, it increases instances of cardiac hemangiosarcoma and hypothyroidism. There has also been some research done showing that there are more health risks for altered males than unaltered. The females are a harder call but I can't justify pulling out body parts jus because there might be a problem someday.
Lol im not having any kids & my parents think hormones make me moody so ya, i have an appt to rip out my ovaries next monday. ummm NO! :P

I was also wondering. what are the chances of cancer in females? or even just yorkies? i looked it up on google and nothing came up
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The chances of mammary cancer is an unspayed dog is 26%. If spayed before the first heat cycle it is only 0.5%. If one waits til after the first heat the chances increases to 8%.

This is probably higher for yorkies since small breeds are more prone to cancer.

http://www.vet.upenn.edu/schoolresou...43/canine.html
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wow.. 26% is ALOT. i thought it was like 5%... wow, this is such a hard choice! im terrible at choosing, im the person who is NEVER ready to order when the waiter comes around lol
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