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ReconsMomma · 06-03-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

Hi Laura - Chanel had a bad grooming experience 2 or so years ago and CRIED pitifully if I took her in the car after that experience

....I started taking her on rides and we checked out new groomers together - no appointments - just walking in and looking around then leaving.

Now she LOVES to ride in the car - It really helped her get over that totally MEAN groomer that must have hurt her ! I was so upset I wanted to drive back to that groomer and yank on her hair - but settled for calling and complaining how rough she must have been to make a normally happy yorkie CRY

But short little rides in the car WITHOUT shots on the butt or ears being looked at work wonders !

I just had to reply to this. I am so sorry that your little baby had to go through this. As a groomer I really dont understand why people get into this proffesion and then do things like this to poor little dogs. I got into this profession because of my love for dogs and that is it. I enjoy my job. And mostly the reason taht I enjoy it is because I get to get up everyday and spend my days with dogs.
Again I am sorry that Chanel had to go through this. Glad she is better now.

leximax · 06-03-2005, 12:51 PM

I think that like all things in life there are pros and cons to every situation, good experiences & bad experiences and I guess we all have to agree to disagree but I definately don't have any emotionally disturbed dogs as a result and as foar as testing my dogs prior to buying them, too bad there isn't tests for humans before we have them, LOL!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-03-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by leximax

too bad there isn't tests for humans before we have them, LOL!

Isn't that the truth! I have a couple of teenagers I'd like to "test" if you know what I mean. Really I was blessed with great kids, but it was pure luck. I'd like to say it is in their DNA, but ??????????

I think the temperament tests really work and are a great way to match the personalities of humans and dogs.

As for the term "shipping, maybe we could change it to "flying" and you
could ask the breeder if they "fly" their puppies. I don't find the word offensive but I can see how some might.

As for the puppies who arrived after their flight shaking, timid and vomiting, I would ask if this temperament persisted or if they really are confident, outgoing and comfortable dogs now. Most yorkies are domineering, overbearing and aggresive by nature and I don't think something like plane fight would traumatize them. But, there are always exceptions to the breed standard temperament and, just as you wouldn't let a shy, timid, soft spoken 12 year old child with emotional problems fly alone, you probably shouldn't let a yorkie puppy with the same problems fly alone either.

cometsmom · 06-03-2005, 02:16 PM

...I think that we really need to be careful about posting information, that may be onesided. As the administrator has said in many posts...."What works for some, may not work for others". We should be careful to not generalize and say that one mode of transportation is not good for all dogs. It's obvious that many of us have had good experiences with shipping and some people have had bad experiences. I think that in any decision that is made, buyers must do all of their homework and research, to make certain that they are getting a healthy dog. Let's try and remember to not judge shipping animals as being bad or good. We should only relate our personal experience about it and that's it. I do not beleive that someone can determine whether it is good or bad, unless they have received a shipped pet. Let's try to stay openminded.

PinkMartini · 06-03-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cometsmom

...I think that we really need to be careful about posting information, that may be onesided. As the administrator has said in many posts...."What works for some, may not work for others". We should be careful to not generalize and say that one mode of transportation is not good for all dogs. It's obvious that many of us have had good experiences with shipping and some people have had bad experiences. I think that in any decision that is made, buyers must do all of their homework and research, to make certain that they are getting a healthy dog. Let's try and remember to not judge shipping animals as being bad or good. We should only relate our personal experience about it and that's it. I do not beleive that someone can determine whether it is good or bad, unless they have received a shipped pet. Let's try to stay openminded.

I couldn't have said it any better myself

Stitches29 · 06-03-2005, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CC's

Personally I won't ship pups alone.

It is stressful and most are put in a type of cargo area, temperature controlled or not. They are alone with no one to reassure them. If someone wants one of my pups they can pay the extra few bucks and fly in on their own and carry one in the cabin with them. JMO

Bless your heart. You have my vote and total support.

cometsmom · 06-03-2005, 02:38 PM

Thanks Baileys Mom! I'm honored to be able to speak for you too!

Stitches29 · 06-03-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brittie123

I don't want to offend anyone but going to a new home is stressful enough, just a carride where the puppy is being held the wholetime is stressful after being separated from their mommy and littermates. I don't care how pressurized a cabin is or who is taking care of them,they are still spending hours in a crate alone scared and not knowing where the heck they are. I can't stand the idea! Plus the phrase "shipping" a puppy makes them sound like merchandise, not living breathing fragile beings that they are. I have seen the prices on shipping and honestly if you are going to pay that you might as well buy a ticket for yourself and go personally pick them up, at least that way they will have you holding them the whole way and telling them everything is going to be ok.

Way To Go Brittie. I was beginning to think I was the only one, that was thinking that shipping was not the greatest on the babies.

Sidney · 06-03-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cometsmom

...I think that we really need to be careful about posting information, that may be onesided. As the administrator has said in many posts...."What works for some, may not work for others". We should be careful to not generalize and say that one mode of transportation is not good for all dogs. It's obvious that many of us have had good experiences with shipping and some people have had bad experiences. I think that in any decision that is made, buyers must do all of their homework and research, to make certain that they are getting a healthy dog. Let's try and remember to not judge shipping animals as being bad or good. We should only relate our personal experience about it and that's it. I do not beleive that someone can determine whether it is good or bad, unless they have received a shipped pet. Let's try to stay openminded.

I totally agree ......

You said it perfectly!!

nemom · 06-03-2005, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sidney

I totally agree ......

You said it perfectly!!

DITTO

diva pup · 06-03-2005, 03:09 PM

Rio was shipped at 12 weeks. He was and is a confident little dog.When I picked him up at the airport he was sitting in the middle of his kennel with a who are you and what do you want look on his face. No trauma there! I do want to add he got snowed in at the airport and went home with a stewardess that nite.
He was not in the cargo area of the plane tho.I have no qualms about shipping a pup that way.
I picked up my Mignon because her breeder does not ship.
She had to spend 8 hrs in a car, if she were a nervous kind of puppy that would probably have been hard on her too tho.If I had decided that I was going to get a pup locally I would not have had much to choose from.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 06-03-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stitches29

Way To Go Brittie. I was beginning to think I was the only one, that was thinking that shipping was not the greatest on the babies.

I agree that it's not "the greatest", but I just don't want to shut the door for people who only have that option, or someone who finds their "dream puppy" somewhere other than locally. It is actually cheaper to fly the pup alone than fly there and back yourself with the pup, especially when you consider the time and the possible hotel charge. I am considering a Biewer from Germany for instance, or a puppy from Canada that caught my eye.

I hope we can agree that it is not "cruel" or "unthinkable" is all I am trying to convey.

CC's · 06-03-2005, 04:19 PM

As with everything this is a personal choice. I can only state what my choice is. My reasons are valid for me and no one else. But since I am the person responsible for the care of my pups so I won't do it with mine.

I know many people who do it and have no problems. I had one pup shipped and he was 5 months old. I'll not do it again.

My hubby picked up my last pup from TX (we are in Pa) on a single day flight and it was about $150. more than shipping the pup alone would be. He left in the AM and was home that night. He did it on his day off.

I just read an article today that estimates up to 20,000 pets a year are lost injured or killed during airline travel. The airline says its not that high but have never bothered to actually count. But this isn't really my reason.

Other than the stress, I don't want anyone touching one of my pups who maybe also touching another not so healthy pup in the next crate. I have read and heard many new owners who have had a pup shipped have ring worm develop a week or 2 later, Coccidiosis (which can be made to flare up by stress), and even parvo. PM's send their pets by air all the time and you never know how many are sick but not symptomatic on that flight with yours.

As always this is my opinion and all are entitled to their own.

Hannah · 06-04-2005, 06:09 AM

I believe many people here have respectfully posted their opinions. My intention was to open a discussion in the hope that anyone who is planning on purchasing a puppy may think twice about how that puppy gets to their new home. It may be inconvenient to pick up the puppy yourself, even if it means flying with it in the cabin, but at least it is more humane and safe. No offense is intended, just, hopefully, some good advice.

cometsmom · 06-04-2005, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannah

I believe many people here have respectfully posted their opinions. My intention was to open a discussion in the hope that anyone who is planning on purchasing a puppy may think twice about how that puppy gets to their new home. It may be inconvenient to pick up the puppy yourself, even if it means flying with it in the cabin, but at least it is more humane and safe. No offense is intended, just, hopefully, some good advice.

Absolutely. I agree with you! I would have loved to have been able to drive or travel by plane to pick my pup up in person. But under my circumstances, it was not possible. I wish that I could have met him in advance and take him safely home in my arms. I am very appreciative of the fact and fortunate that I received a healthy and happy shipped puppy.

06-04-2005, 06:09 AM	#59
Hannah YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 310	Shipping I believe many people here have respectfully posted their opinions. My intention was to open a discussion in the hope that anyone who is planning on purchasing a puppy may think twice about how that puppy gets to their new home. It may be inconvenient to pick up the puppy yourself, even if it means flying with it in the cabin, but at least it is more humane and safe. No offense is intended, just, hopefully, some good advice. __________________ Hannah's Jackson http://www.dogster.com/?101668

06-03-2005, 12:51 PM	#47
leximax Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hazleton, PA Posts: 186	I think that like all things in life there are pros and cons to every situation, good experiences & bad experiences and I guess we all have to agree to disagree but I definately don't have any emotionally disturbed dogs as a result and as foar as testing my dogs prior to buying them, too bad there isn't tests for humans before we have them, LOL!

06-03-2005, 02:16 PM	#49
cometsmom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Orange, NJ Posts: 89	...I think that we really need to be careful about posting information, that may be onesided. As the administrator has said in many posts...."What works for some, may not work for others". We should be careful to not generalize and say that one mode of transportation is not good for all dogs. It's obvious that many of us have had good experiences with shipping and some people have had bad experiences. I think that in any decision that is made, buyers must do all of their homework and research, to make certain that they are getting a healthy dog. Let's try and remember to not judge shipping animals as being bad or good. We should only relate our personal experience about it and that's it. I do not beleive that someone can determine whether it is good or bad, unless they have received a shipped pet. Let's try to stay openminded.

06-03-2005, 02:38 PM	#52
cometsmom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South Orange, NJ Posts: 89	Thanks Baileys Mom! I'm honored to be able to speak for you too!

06-03-2005, 03:09 PM	#56
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	Rio was shipped at 12 weeks. He was and is a confident little dog.When I picked him up at the airport he was sitting in the middle of his kennel with a who are you and what do you want look on his face. No trauma there! I do want to add he got snowed in at the airport and went home with a stewardess that nite. He was not in the cargo area of the plane tho.I have no qualms about shipping a pup that way. I picked up my Mignon because her breeder does not ship. She had to spend 8 hrs in a car, if she were a nervous kind of puppy that would probably have been hard on her too tho.If I had decided that I was going to get a pup locally I would not have had much to choose from.

06-03-2005, 04:19 PM	#58
CC's YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 402	As with everything this is a personal choice. I can only state what my choice is. My reasons are valid for me and no one else. But since I am the person responsible for the care of my pups so I won't do it with mine. I know many people who do it and have no problems. I had one pup shipped and he was 5 months old. I'll not do it again. My hubby picked up my last pup from TX (we are in Pa) on a single day flight and it was about $150. more than shipping the pup alone would be. He left in the AM and was home that night. He did it on his day off. I just read an article today that estimates up to 20,000 pets a year are lost injured or killed during airline travel. The airline says its not that high but have never bothered to actually count. But this isn't really my reason. Other than the stress, I don't want anyone touching one of my pups who maybe also touching another not so healthy pup in the next crate. I have read and heard many new owners who have had a pup shipped have ring worm develop a week or 2 later, Coccidiosis (which can be made to flare up by stress), and even parvo. PM's send their pets by air all the time and you never know how many are sick but not symptomatic on that flight with yours. As always this is my opinion and all are entitled to their own.