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04-03-2007, 09:52 AM | #1 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SW Fl
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| No ball Max Cryptorchidism Cryptorchidism is the failure of one or both of the testicles to descend into the scrotum. Normal descent is often complete by 6 to 8 weeks of age but may be delayed to as late as 6 months of age. The undescended testicle may be found within the abdominal cavity, in the inguinal canal or under the skin next to the penis. The condition is considered hereditary in most breeds. There is not complete agreement on the mode of inheritance. Because of the increased incidence of cancer in retained testicles, cryptorchid dogs should always be neutered. A neutered cryptorchid dog should have no other expected health risks due to this condition I just found this information. Max's testies have not come down. He'll be 6 months the end of this month. Has this happened to anyone else that owns a male? Should I let the breeder know this?
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04-03-2007, 11:32 AM | #2 |
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| A few years back we bought a Boxer, and were charged the going rate at the time. Well he was bought as a pet not for breeding. When he was about 16 weeks we noticed that 1 of his testicals had not dropped, we brought him to our vet who advised us if it did not drop to have it removed as it could turn cancerous. Well it did not so we him nuetered. Anyways my husband is no push over and he wanted to get on to the breeder, but as im easy going I told him to leave it, but of course he took no for an answer. He got onto the breeder who told him that he was sold as a pet, but my hubby told him he did,nt care, that he is a boy dog, and expected everthing to come with him. That a dog with 1 ball is like a car with no wheels. lol Anyway the breeder give us half our money back, which i suppose we were entitled to, as we had quite a huge vet bill. I hope this helps a bit. |
04-03-2007, 12:09 PM | #3 |
Gabor Galore Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Illinois
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| I would like the breeder know - they need to know. The neutering is more expensive since it is more invasive. I would just call and let her know what the vet told you.
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04-03-2007, 12:20 PM | #4 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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decent of the testes may be as early as 8 weeks, however, their being seated in place (the ring closing) can take up to 8 months or 9 months. Thus allowing enabling that lil guy to pull them up until then. Since my contract states nuetering between 6 & 8 months, I've worked with families that are working with their vet, call and ask to wait a bit longer, to avoid putting the dog through major surgery.
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04-03-2007, 03:43 PM | #5 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | crypto's should be neutered when it is determined that the testies are definately NOT going to drop on their own. They definately can become cancerous and i've seen it too many times. what should have been an easy procedure turns into a complicated one. so check with your vet and see if he thinks its a good idea to wait another month or so, but definately by 1 year old, have him neutered.
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04-03-2007, 03:51 PM | #6 |
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| If it is a hereditary thing, I would def. let the breeder know. Maybe this has happened before but no one let the breeder know. If she has other cases of this, she would want to stop breeding that male/female. Whoever the carrier is.
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04-03-2007, 05:05 PM | #7 |
Lovin' Lucy & Rebel Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia
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| I had Rebel neutered at 6 months. One had descended, the other was located in his inner thigh His surgery was more invasive and ended up costing more than twice as much. I haven't notified the breeder even though I have a health guarantee. Should I contact her and try to get part of my money back?
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04-03-2007, 05:11 PM | #8 | |
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Cryptorchidism is not considered a life threatening genetic illness.. Which most breeders will stand behind. Yes, you should notify the breeder to inform her that this has occurred, and let her make her decision on her breeding program from there.
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04-04-2007, 02:49 AM | #9 | |
Lovin' Lucy & Rebel Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Georgia
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Thank you I just want to do the right thing. Rebel is happy and sassy, healthy in every other way and I didn't consider this to be a big deal. I didn't think about the breeder at all so this definitely opened my eyes to the problems it could cause her. I'll call her today.
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04-04-2007, 04:50 AM | #10 |
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| I am commenting and have only read the original post, have not read any replies so forgive me if i am repeating other posts or whatever i had an italian greyhound that only had one tes come down. he was neutered and fine after that. but he was about 9 months old when he was neutered. i would talk to the vet and see what they suggest, chances are they will tell you to neuter him. and if you were hoping to breed him, yes, I would talk to the breeder. i really wouldn't bother with talking to the breeder about it as long as he is neutered and healthy. you could mention it but they might just say "well, you can bring him back if you want" and i doubt you want to do that if the surgery is expensive, you could ask them to help with costs but i wouldn't hold my breath. but she should know about it for her future breedings.... good luck to ya hon!! i really think your baby will be fine, you just need to have him neutered to avoid any health problems down the road.
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04-04-2007, 04:55 AM | #11 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| Another thing to keep in mind, these boys with one undesended testicle can still produce offspring.
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04-04-2007, 05:05 PM | #12 |
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| that is one way to put it LOL how funny!!!!!!!!!
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