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FRUSTRATED :mad: I've been on Yorkietalk since I got Teddy about 2yrs ago. Anyhow in Nov. a coworker approached me about breeding her yorkie with mine. I agreed to breed Teddy, as long as I got a girl puppy from the litter. I bet you already know were this is going huh? Well, she agreed and two puppies were born at the end of Jan. A boy and a girl, she even asked me what to name the dog. Well, this weekend is 8th week, since the puppies were born. Today I get a call from the owner of the female dog telling me that the girl dog is not gaining as much weight and that she took her to the vet, and that there was nothing physically wrong with the dog,only that she was growin a lot slower than her brother. She claimed that the vet suggested that girl puppy needed more attention, and that because I work, it wouldn't be a good environment for the puppy? She then offered the male puppy, and when I told her I wasn't interested in the male puppy, she even suggested paying a stud fee for Teddy. She claims the male is bigger and does not need the attention the female puppy needs. I feel that these are all excuses not to give me the dog. What do yall think?? |
I think a deals a deal if you still want the girl puppy. If the girl is not the quality or something that you want then take the stud fee. |
pup You are right...I would not sign off on the AKC's until the agreement was fulfilled..why not take the male ans sell him to a good pet home..and decline a request to use him again... |
I would stick to your guns and get the female. Thats what was promised |
Tell her you would like to speak to the vet & find out for yourself what the problem is. If she refuses then you know she's trying to give you the run-around. If she agreed to you getting a girl from the litter she needs to honor your agreement. IMO she's probably wanting to keep the female beause she can get more money by selling the smaller & female of the 2 pups. |
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I agree completely!!! Get your girl... Keep us updated... |
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Agree with this. Also, tell her you need to speak with the vet to find out *exactly* what is wrong with the little girl. What if it is a genetic thing? ;) You would hate to breed him again if he was a carrier of something ;) ;) |
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Stick to your guns..........go get YOUR girl :D |
Did you put something in writing? |
If she has any intregity at all the female will be at YOUR home as soon as she is ready to leave mom. I would be in her "back pocket" so to speak -- I would just "claim" her -- anytime you talk to her -- make it at least a couple times a day :D talk about YOUR little girl. Don't leave her any room to renig. |
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Devils Advocate We always read on here how Yorkie pups really need to stay with their Mama's until 12 weeks of age. Here's the devils advocate part: Is she willing to give up the female at 12 weeks of age? If not - don't back down - if you have something in writing - threaten a law suit. If you know an attorney, see how much they would pay to write a letter for you. (Sometimes $50...sometimes free!) Usually a letter is about all it takes for people like that. I agree - she's seeing dollar signs on the small female and if you were promised the female - stick to your guns. Sneaky snakes...hate 'em!!! Good luck and keep us posted! |
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Frustrated :mad: This all happened last friday, and it completely caught me off guard. I was expecting her to ask me if I was coming to pick up the puppy. Instead, she starts with all these excuses. I then called her Sunday, and I told her that the reason I had decided to breed Teddy was because I wanted a little girl. I wasn't interested in the male or a stud fee. She then tells me that she would have to speak to her husband. I was like okay. That was her way of getting out the coversation. I gave her three days, she didn't call. So I decided to call her Wednesday. Immediately she starts talking about something completely unrelated. I ask her how Thalia is doing, (the name I gave the puppy) she tells me the puppy is doing better. That supposedly the puppy is still drinking the moms milk, and eating puppy food. I was like okay, I understand if she has to stay with the mom another few weeks. She then mentions that she and her husband would be willing to give me 700.00 as a stud fee. I acted as though I didn't hear a thing. This is soo frustrating! I trusted her, I thought that she was an honest person. |
Don't back down! Stand your ground and be firm, and let her know that you will not settle for anything less than that female pup. |
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You know EXACTLY what she is pulling, don't you. Now correct it. It appears she wanted a free credit extension from you. Now that it's time to pay up she has forgotten your name. The little girl is probably just tinier, which of course makes her cuter when they are that young. She either wants to keep the girl for herself or realizes that she can sell the girl for more money. Heck, she probably already has someone lined up to buy the girl. You either get the girl or you will see her in small claims court. |
[QUOTE=lillyrican;1034349]:mad: She then tells me that she would have to speak to her husband. I was like okay. That was her way of getting out the coversation. I gave her three days, she didn't call. So I decided to call her Wednesday. She then mentions that she and her husband would be willing to give me 700.00 as a stud fee. You know if there was a BIG RED FLAG ICON I would post about 1,000 of those right here. LOL. She is a con artist in the making. Of course they would give you $700 stud fee. They want the puppy. She wants to pretend that both of those pups are hers now and that you simply donated your male. Yeah right..... Small claims only cost $40 to file. If she doesn't hand over the female then I would tell her that she will be served papers and sued for the price of a top Yorkie female. Do you have any paperwork or is this all going to be heresay? |
I would tell her that you will not sign the AKC papers till she honors your agreement and you have the female in your arms going out the door....Don't let her con you girl...go get that baby...:) |
i agree that is wrong of her if that is what is promised that is what you should get. and if shes a coworker doesnt she work just as much as you she cant expect you to take care of the dog any less then she. poor little girl all she needs is someone to take care of her no matter her size and its not fair to you to not get the right to give that to her when it was promised to you? I understand that 8 weeks is to young to take the puppy and you should wait. my anna was a small girl and i didnt get her till she was almost 15 weeks cuz of her size. how small is this girl? if she is that sickly maybe she does just have otehr problems. |
I would tell her you insist to go with her to the vet and find out exactly what is wrong with YOUR little girl. It does definately sound like she is trying to pursuade you out of the girl. If she keeps her, she can breed her too... :thumbdown :thumbdown :thumbdown or is the girl really that small? |
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Frustrated She took her to the vet and the vet said there is nothing physically wrong with the puppy. She is just small, and a finiky eater. I believe she weighs about a pound. I think she is just coming up with every excuse in the book not to give me the puppy. |
Again... like everyone has asked.. do you have a agreement in writing? |
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This is good advice. I'd make it clear that you are very serious about the health and well being of both puppies, however there is a verbal and/or written contract stating that the female was to go to you in leiu of stud fees. Request the vets name/number and make it clear to her that you intend to see this agreement fulfilled. Remind her that since she cannot register until you sign off on the papers if she continues to pursue this avenue she will have an unregistered female that won't be worth as much as she thinks. Start getting all this down in writing too - original conversations w/dates and all current conversations. Good luck! |
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Thanks for all the great advice, but unfortunately I didn't get our agreement in writing, it was a verbal agreement. Even though it was a verbal agreement, she told everyone in the office about our arrangement. She even asked me in front of all of her co-workers what I wanted to name the puppy. She's been sending me pics of the puppies development. When I went to visit the puppies at 6wks, she was like, well two more weeks and they will be ready to go home. :mad: |
why don't she just wait till the puppy is 12 weeks old then you take it. It should be healthy enough by them. |
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I would be asking any of those coworkers if they would be a witness during your small claims case. I still think you have a VERY STRONG CASE. This coworker will be forced to come up with a good story on why you would let your high priced male Yorkie be studded out with nothing in return. The fact that she has sent you photos and updates is only more proof. The Judge will be able to see right through this one. I still say "go for it". She is trying to scam you and thinking that there is nothing you will be able to do. The fact that she offered $700 now for stud fees - have her put that in writing. That she now wants to back out of the female pup deal and instead offer a $700 stud fee. That should hang her right there. Of course don't sign it. Once you have it in your hands tell her that your friend's husband is a lawyer and you are going to ask him about it. |
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