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Amber_lv 03-25-2007 12:55 PM

Ok I Have A Serious Question?help!
 
OK YT let's debate for a min. I have noticed huge differences in Peeka and Daisy and i was curious what you all thought about what i think.
First off I got Peeka when he was 7 weeks old i had him almost potty trained in 2 weeks (seriously) he was devoted to me and we bonded very fast. Today he is the biggest lover you'd ever want he is at my side 24-7 he is totally devoted to me( big time momma's boy). I taught him many tricks at a young age he was sitting and rolling over very young, He listens when i talk to him or scold him. he has regressed in the potty training since we brought Daisy home which is hard for me but i'm trying.....
Now for Daisy We got Daisy at 11 1/2 weeks old she came from a Kennel type place( but was extreamly well taken care of). She is impossible to potty train she just goes where ever she does not get it at all she doesn't listen except when you call her she won't do tricks she doesn't sit still for 5 seconds she will cuddle for a few minutes but thats it. she doesn't really care who's around she loves everyone she doesn't have a paticular favorite like Peeka(which is me) i love her dearly but just haven't bonded with her like i did Peeka.

Now the big question... I think it has to do with age that i got them Peeka was young and i was able to mold him to what i wanted he learned fast and is obedient (for the most part) Daisy i think was already set in her ways and learned bad behavior like pottying whenever where ever before i got her. I know you shouldn't bring them home as early as i got Peeka but i was curious if anyone had the same experiance getting one early and one later and what you guys think???

gutu28 03-25-2007 12:58 PM

I dont have that experience, but I think another part is their gender. I have always heard that boys are very much like you Peeka while girls are more like Daisy in that theyre independant. That might be something else to think about! :)

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gutu28 (Post 1024847)
I dont have that experience, but I think another part is their gender. I have always heard that boys are very much like you Peeka while girls are more like Daisy in that theyre independant. That might be something else to think about! :)

I thought about that to. it's not just the independece it's also the potty trainng and the listening. i don't know it's just so different. I mean don't get me wrong i love her dearly but it's just not that same as Peeka

gutu28 03-25-2007 01:06 PM

Yea, girls have a tendency to be a lot more stubborn and strong-willed. Ive always heard that the males are a lot more eager to please than females. That's just a generalization, though...there are always exceptions :)

chachi 03-25-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1024843)
OK YT let's debate for a min. I have noticed huge differences in Peeka and Daisy and i was curious what you all thought about what i think.
First off I got Peeka when he was 7 weeks old i had him almost potty trained in 2 weeks (seriously) he was devoted to me and we bonded very fast. Today he is the biggest lover you'd ever want he is at my side 24-7 he is totally devoted to me( big time momma's boy). I taught him many tricks at a young age he was sitting and rolling over very young, He listens when i talk to him or scold him. he has regressed in the potty training since we brought Daisy home which is hard for me but i'm trying.....
Now for Daisy We got Daisy at 11 1/2 weeks old she came from a Kennel type place( but was extreamly well taken care of). She is impossible to potty train she just goes where ever she does not get it at all she doesn't listen except when you call her she won't do tricks she doesn't sit still for 5 seconds she will cuddle for a few minutes but thats it. she doesn't really care who's around she loves everyone she doesn't have a paticular favorite like Peeka(which is me) i love her dearly but just haven't bonded with her like i did Peeka.

Now the big question... I think it has to do with age that i got them Peeka was young and i was able to mold him to what i wanted he learned fast and is obedient (for the most part) Daisy i think was already set in her ways and learned bad behavior like pottying whenever where ever before i got her. I know you shouldn't bring them home as early as i got Peeka but i was curious if anyone had the same experiance getting one early and one later and what you guys think???

I got Chachi at 6 weeks and he is My better behaved dog. He knows tricks, He listens,hes potty trained. We still havent gotten Jewels pottytrained and she doesnt do any tricks

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1024859)
I got Chachi at 6 weeks and he is My better behaved dog. He knows tricks, He listens,hes potty trained. We still havent gotten Jewels pottytrained and she doesnt do any tricks

Thank you for posting this is excactly what i was curious about. I know these babies are tiny and we need to keep them longer but does anyone think they are being kept to long and the breeders aren't doing a good enough job training them at a younger age to be obediant? I am thinking a lot of breeders don't really pay attention to these little things that can be a really big problem later. A 12 week old puppy should be potty trained (well darn close) IMO but that doesn't seem to be the case with yorkies and i am seriously thinking it's because of this. Even though there is a difference between female and males i really do think it depends on what age you get them as well. Sorry i don't mean to be controversal here just curious. Please don't be afraid to post what you think i really would like some honest opinions

Catrina 03-25-2007 01:16 PM

i think its just the individual dog.. not just the age. sure the age may play a part, but i think its just their personalities :)

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gutu28 (Post 1024855)
Yea, girls have a tendency to be a lot more stubborn and strong-willed. Ive always heard that the males are a lot more eager to please than females. That's just a generalization, though...there are always exceptions :)

thanks i agree to that females are mor independent to. Yes there are exception lol

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 01:38 PM

anyone else ever go through this?

mizzwanned 03-25-2007 01:51 PM

hmmm Teddy and London are very different, though I got them both at around the same age. I got them both when they were about 10 weeks old. Teddy was very hyper and didn't listen and is still the same but somehow I trained him so quickly to do tricks. He learned how to sit, heel and paw in 30 mins. He's very smart and loves to learn. He's also very loving and friendly. He's not completely potty trained though. London was more independent when she came but now she always wants to sleep on my bed, she will cry to get on the bed. She doesn't do any trick though because she doesn't care to learn any. And it's hard to teach her any. IDk with Teddy it was very easy. But she loves to be carried and is loving as well. I think it is just their personalities.

koolbreeze 03-25-2007 01:56 PM

i think its the age also. i got Troy when she was 8 wks and shes is so loving. but i got Walker when he was 14 wks and have not bonded with him yet. i think when they are really young the bond to you cause mommy is not longer there. but when they are older they they are used to it quiker. especaially when theres another yorkie there. JMO

Yorkieluv 03-25-2007 01:58 PM

We got Miko when he was around 12 weeks old and he was potty trained within the first week. And within a month, he was 100% potty trained. He was very easy to potty train :) He's the sweetest little guy ever! He's always by my side or my husband's side. He follows us everywhere and sleeps on the pillows above our heads :)

chachi 03-25-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1024869)
Thank you for posting this is excactly what i was curious about. I know these babies are tiny and we need to keep them longer but does anyone think they are being kept to long and the breeders aren't doing a good enough job training them at a younger age to be obediant? I am thinking a lot of breeders don't really pay attention to these little things that can be a really big problem later. A 12 week old puppy should be potty trained (well darn close) IMO but that doesn't seem to be the case with yorkies and i am seriously thinking it's because of this. Even though there is a difference between female and males i really do think it depends on what age you get them as well. Sorry i don't mean to be controversal here just curious. Please don't be afraid to post what you think i really would like some honest opinions

I dont know becauseI got Chachi and Jewels from the same breeder Only Jewels was a couple weeks older. I think with mine its their personalities. Chachi really doesnt like to be scolded and he thrives on praise and thats why I think training him has been easier. Jewels is the baby and she is very spoiled. She doesnt care if she gets scolded and has been a nightmare to potty train. And she just doesnt pick up on doing tricks. She is good though that you can walk off leash and she stays with you but Chachi does that too

Yorkieluv 03-25-2007 01:59 PM

Oh, I forgot to say...I got my maltese in February and she was 8 months old. We bonded immediately also...It didn't take any time at all...She also follows us everywhere and sleeps on the pillows above our heads :) She's the sweetest little girl!

LuvMySissy 03-25-2007 02:07 PM

I think a lot has to do with the breeder and how they raise them as well. Angel was paper trained when I got her at 13 weeks and VERY loving right from the beginning. She still occasionally pees somewhere other than the wee wee pad, but is about 90% trained. Sissy was not at all trained when I got her at 13 weeks old and went wherever, whenever. She also was very loving though. They are both very cuddly pups, though don't seem to mind who does the cuddling!!

Neither do tricks. I tried with Sissy and she just wasn't having any of it and I haven't even tried with Angel......

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 02:12 PM

Great opinions everyone i love hearing them all!:thumbup: So i think it is age also gender but mabey we are a little more relaxed with the second one's?
I'm gonna crack down on my to here real soon with the potty training Peeka sneaks off to poop in the house so it's hard to catch him

YorkieRose 03-25-2007 02:19 PM

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I find it is a combination of several things...males seem to be so much more loving and attentive.. and when neutered, they are not as hard to train as female for the most part. People do love their boys...

The girls can be so hard headed...but mine are housetrained. If a breeder is not going to train a puppy, then they should not keep it past 8 weeks...that is unfair to the new pet owner. I start mine on pee pads at weaning time..they are 50% trained by 12 wks..it is alot of work.

Kelz 03-25-2007 02:25 PM

your 2 sound like my 2 dogs! I got bentley when he was 8 weeks old..he caught on to potty training very quickly. He always wants to be by you too.. He's a great cuddler. Miss Karlee on the other hand..omg.. I got her when she was 7 weeks old.. i didn't get her completely potty trained until she was a little over a year old!!!!!! She was so stubborn. She never caught on. nor do i think she cared to catch on. She's also very independant. she onlys gets attention when she wants it. and when she wants it by god you better give it to her or she will bark and bark and bark. Also everything is hers. If bentley is playing with something.she will bark until she gets it then she will drop it b/c she didn't even really want it.. she just wanted it because bentley had it. She is a mess but i love her just as much as bentley.

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelz (Post 1024948)
your 2 sound like my 2 dogs! I got bentley when he was 8 weeks old..he caught on to potty training very quickly. He always wants to be by you too.. He's a great cuddler. Miss Karlee on the other hand..omg.. I got her when she was 7 weeks old.. i didn't get her completely potty trained until she was a little over a year old!!!!!! She was so stubborn. She never caught on. nor do i think she cared to catch on. She's also very independant. she onlys gets attention when she wants it. and when she wants it by god you better give it to her or she will bark and bark and bark. Also everything is hers. If bentley is playing with something.she will bark until she gets it then she will drop it b/c she didn't even really want it.. she just wanted it because bentley had it. She is a mess but i love her just as much as bentley.

Glad to see the other end of the spectrum here to. you got both your babies younger and Karlee seems like Daisy lol. Daisy is the same way with toys to she wants whatever Peeka has poor thing lol

mistyinca 03-25-2007 03:10 PM

I got Chloe at 7 1/2 weeks. I have had no problems potty training her. She hasn't had an accident in the house in over a month, and she's now 6 months old. She has been a fast learner in training too.

Is Peeka fixed?

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1024935)
I find it is a combination of several things...males seem to be so much more loving and attentive.. and when neutered, they are not as hard to train as female for the most part. People do love their boys...

The girls can be so hard headed...but mine are housetrained. If a breeder is not going to train a puppy, then they should not keep it past 8 weeks...that is unfair to the new pet owner. I start mine on pee pads at weaning time..they are 50% trained by 12 wks..it is alot of work.

I bet it is a lot of work and i also feel the same that it is the breeders responsiblity to start the potty training and good behaivior process. I wish all breeders could see the after affects of a puppy that isn't started young i think that is a lot of the reason they are so difficult. I know this is a stubborn breed and they are so dang cute it's hard to disipline them lol. I am finding it really hard with Daisy because she is so tiny i let her get away with way more than i should. I think it's funny when she goes after Peeka but i found that this is not funny at all she is actually becoming agressive because i let it go so now we are working on her little attitude problem lol. This girl is so proud of herself she thinks she is queen bee and there is no knocking her off her pedastal lol she actually prances yes prances around with her nose in the air (seriously). I love that she is a little ball of fire but sheesh she needs to tone it down a bit lol. she is 5 months old i know that's stil a puppy but Peeka was so easy. Now she does have some great things i love about her she will stay by me outside with out a leash and Peeka will not. He did for the most part but he started wanting to explore so he is on a leash everytime outside now.

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mistyinca (Post 1025011)
I got Chloe at 7 1/2 weeks. I have had no problems potty training her. She hasn't had an accident in the house in over a month, and she's now 6 months old. She has been a fast learner in training too.

Is Peeka fixed?

No he isn't but he was potty trained fully untill i got Daisy he see's her doing it so he thinks he can and he knows it's wrong because when i find it he runs and hides lol. Daisy really just doesn't care at all. I have her in a baby playpen when i can't watch her and she will pee in there but she makes a lot of noise when she needs to poop and i take her outside i praise praise praise but it doesn't register with her. Her favorite place to pee is right at the food bowl this girl is crazy

Pipersmommy 03-25-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber_lv (Post 1024887)
anyone else ever go through this?

I think it has to do with the breeder. Max is the same way. I think he pees more where he feels like it, than where he is supposed to. We got Misha at 11 weeks, she was completely pottied trained with in a month. Piper took a little longer,we got her at 14 weeks, I thought it was the Yorkie in her. If I'm on the PC, 60% Max is under my feet in the morning. The rest of the time he gets up to poo or pee where ever, & to get into mischief.
He just doesn't get it. The girls still go on the potty paper every time, so he is not learning from them. I know when I finally get him trained we are ripping up the carpet. I even found poo under the bed. He is doing better letting me get to goo out of his eyes, and behaves during bath time. Forget the trick thing, I'm lucky if I can get him to focus looking at me. He is a lot harder than the other 2 were. I 1st thought it was because he was a boy, but after reading different threads on gender, I think it is just him.

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipersmommy (Post 1025030)
I think it has to do with the breeder. Max is the same way. I think he pees more where he feels like it, than where he is supposed to. We got Misha at 11 weeks, she was completely pottied trained with in a month. Piper took a little longer,we got her at 14 weeks, I thought it was the Yorkie in her. If I'm on the PC, 60% Max is under my feet in the morning. The rest of the time he gets up to poo or pee where ever, & to get into mischief.
He just doesn't get it. The girls still go on the potty paper every time, so he is not learning from them. I know when I finally get him trained we are ripping up the carpet. I even found poo under the bed. He is doing better letting me get to goo out of his eyes, and behaves during bath time. Forget the trick thing, I'm lucky if I can get him to focus looking at me. He is a lot harder than the other 2 were. I 1st thought it was because he was a boy, but after reading different threads on gender, I think it is just him.

LOL Deb mabey we got the rebels of the litters lol. These two are excaclty alike in everyway i swear lol

suz 03-25-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose (Post 1024935)
I find it is a combination of several things...males seem to be so much more loving and attentive.. and when neutered, they are not as hard to train as female for the most part. People do love their boys...

The girls can be so hard headed...but mine are housetrained. If a breeder is not going to train a puppy, then they should not keep it past 8 weeks...that is unfair to the new pet owner. I start mine on pee pads at weaning time..they are 50% trained by 12 wks..it is alot of work.

I agree here with YorkieRose. But on the other end of this, is the breeders point of view. I've had people want to buy a puppy from me, and one of the first things they ask is "Is he/she housetrained". Not what color or how big they are. People sometimes get real funny about not wanting to buy a puppy if it's not housetrained. Mine are paper trained early, and then we move to outside. I've had people say "Oh no. I can't have them go outside" because of one reason or another. Or other people say, "Paper trained? How do I get them to go in a litter box?" Everyone has their own place for pups to go. The one thing I make sure to tell every buyer I get is, that if he/she is trained HERE. But I promise them that when the new kid gets to their new house, things will change. What are the rules in my house, are not necessarily the same rules they'll have in their new home. It's an experience that just happens.

All in all, my experience is that females are harder to train than males. They're very independant and strong willed. Kind of like women, right?? LOL

Pipersmommy 03-25-2007 04:18 PM

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Just had to post this, I'll be lucky if I ever get another picture like this.

Amber_lv 03-25-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipersmommy (Post 1025149)
Just had to post this, I'll be lucky if I ever get another picture like this.

I am showing this pic to Daisy mabey she will catch on lol hahahahaha

Dina_Nichole 03-25-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipersmommy (Post 1025149)
Just had to post this, I'll be lucky if I ever get another picture like this.


HEHEHEHEH :thumbup:

journey826 03-25-2007 04:59 PM

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I got my yorkie at 19 wks and potty trained him in two weeks.he came from a loving home .I was given a 5yr old yorkie and she is still learning.I have a cousin who has a yorkie and he goes every where as well as a cousin who has a girl yorkie and she is potty trained.The only commoniality is we all have yorkies non over 4lbs.I think peeka will need to adjust to the new pup and you must train them seperately. not all dogs teach each other to potty and not all are responsive.I think it has nothing to do with age of pups when you got them.btw all our dog were older at least 12wks when we brought them home. just keep up a routine be patient train the new one in different location until she gets it and it'll be alright. jmo

Dina_Nichole 03-25-2007 04:59 PM

I also think it has alot to do with their personalities. I got Trixie at about 4 months old and she was trained fast. However, I got Pia when she was older then Trix and she was much more difficult. However, Pia is a very dominant girl with everything :p and Trixie is very easy going. So I definately think it has to do with the personality and the breeder!!


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