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02-25-2007, 06:26 PM | #1 |
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| Make her stop BARKING I dont know what to do anymore. It has been about 1 month now that every night (even if i've been home with her all day) Chewy freaks out and starts biting and barking. She doesnt do it to me...mostly my parents. I have been smacking the toosh, yelling at her, leaving her alone in my room....nothing is working!! I am thinking about trying one of those De-Barking things. I dont want her in a collar all the time. But i was looking on ebay and there are some battery operated ones or plug ins. I just dont know anything about them. It says they are humane...but are they? Does the sound hurt the dogs ears? Do we hear anything? I want it to be something that will annoy her rather than hurt her ears. Does anyone have any experience with these? Any advice would be great. I just dont want to spend more than 50 dollars on it. There are some on ebay that are like 10 -20 bucks i would totally give them a try, i just dont want it to be something that will hurt my baby. Thanks for al your advice...sorry it was so long. |
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02-25-2007, 06:31 PM | #2 |
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| I was looking at something like this.... http://cgi.ebay.com/BARK-FREE-Traini...QQcmdZViewItem What do you guys think...does it look safe? It tells you how it works towards the bottom of the page. |
02-25-2007, 06:36 PM | #3 |
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| Tia and I attended our first puppy kindergarten class yesterday at pet smart, and we were told that a negative marker for behaviours you don't like should be a loud "ERGH!" sound (like the sound you make to say someone is wrong, but you are making the sound from a game show...if that makes sense ), distract with another toy, and praise puppy for behaving correctly with the toy. If things are getting out of hand, say "ERGH!", then a high pitched "ouch!" and put puppy into a room (isolation) like a bathroom (with the light on, and no loose toilet paper!) for about 15 to 20 seconds. That's all the time that is needed (apparently) to de-escalate a situation. Also bitter apple on the hands, socks, pant cuffs etc works well, but only as long as it's wet. I'm not sure if this helps, I guess you kinda need to be at the class to see the demo's and hear the sounds (our class was kind of weak at the "ergh!" sound, and our instructor had us practice...I guess we were kinda shy to make weird sounds in front of strangers ) HTH |
02-25-2007, 06:43 PM | #4 |
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| LOL I just made the sound...Chewy looked confused. I really want to take her to puppy obedience classes but my schedule doesnt allow me to. Between classes and work....im all over the place. Plus she turned 10 months yesterday so i feel like if i dont get her trained soon shes going to be spoiled her whole life. I feel like i've tried all i could do. She just knows she could get away with it.She sacrifices the few minutes of punishment and is back to being rowdy in 10 mins. Thanks though i hope the classes work out for you guys. I think it would be so much fun. I may get a chance to do it over the summer even though Chewy will be 1.5 by then. But i want to teach her some cute tricks...and she loves the treats while we practice |
02-25-2007, 06:49 PM | #5 |
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| This one also sounds good to me....? Any one use this stuff before? Im afraid to try it. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bark-STOP-SUPER-...QQcmdZViewItem Last edited by Marina; 02-25-2007 at 06:52 PM. Reason: Spelling |
02-25-2007, 07:10 PM | #6 |
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| This is what I did with Rowdy - he was younger, only about 4 months old, but it took care of his barking at us. He still runs out and barks at the dog next door, but he does stop when I tell him "no". Anyway, when he was about 4 months old, he started barking at us in the house when he wanted something. I put his harness on him and when he started the barking at us, I grabbed him by the back of the harness, picked him up and shook him (gently), just enough to startle him and I said in a very loud voice "NO!". I put him down and he ran to my husband and turned around and looked at me like, "mom, you have lost your mind" I only had to do it a couple more times, and he completely stopped barking at us and has never done it again. I didn't know what to do when he started it and I was away from YT and didn't have computer access at that time - so I thought about what his mom (canine) might do if he misbehaved and I thought she might grab him by the scruff of the neck and shake him or nip him; thus, grabbing him by the harness and shaking and saying "no"! good luck
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02-26-2007, 12:25 AM | #7 |
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| The real question is WHY is she doing this? When does it happen? When your parents first walk in? When they are doing a certain activity?
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02-26-2007, 12:44 AM | #8 |
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| You have to make time when you decide to take on the responsibility of a puppy. There is some good advice here & you just keep going back to a device to do your job. Yelling & hitting her will not stop it, the device you are looking most would not recommend. It takes patience & stradegy to figure out why she might be doing it & positive ways to correct it with out causing other bad habits or developing fearful aggression, etc. Make time to try the suggestions & it wont be cured in a day. Sometimes when you've worked hard at training for several weeks suddenly you realize it worked & was so worth it. All suggestions will take time on your part so if you have decided putting extra time into it is not a option for you & you are determined to disipline w/yelling , spanking & maybe shocking.... It is proven time & time again that redirecting & rewarding gives you a happier, healthier dog & works better with advancing in training. The methods you are using just usually makes a puppy afraid & develops more bad habits. I'm sure others will have more positive suggestions. I hope you will stay away from the negative disipline. With puppy training there is no easy fix, its plain hard work, love & reward for good behavior. Good Luck. |
02-26-2007, 05:41 AM | #9 |
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| That's the idea! The point of making the "ERGH!" sound is that it is a unique sound (the word "no" might be confusing because it is used in our vocabulary so often). When puppy is confused by this sound, s/he will look at you like "what the-?" Now that puppy is distracted from the first unwanted behaviour, you can either substitute behaviors (give her a toy) or give her a command (ie: "kisses" or "watch me") so that you can praise her for following a command. I would never interrupt a behaviour in a negatively physical way. I say "negatively" because sometimes I do "physically" interrupt her: when Tia is biting hard and not listening to my negative marker, I will put my thumb and forefinger in her mouth and pry her mouth open so I can introduce a toy. Although I am physically intervening, I am in no way spanking or doing anything for her to fear me. I know you said that you don't have time for obedience classes....but it sounds like maybe you should make the time....so that the time you spend with your Yorkie will be more enjoyable and less frustrating, for both of you. These classes teach about communication, and problem solving. The class I'm taking really jams a lot of info into 1 hour....I even typed up the main points of the lesson for myself, so i wouldn't forget, and I try to practice them almost every day (I did spend $$ for these lessons, so I'm making sure I'm getting the most out of them). I don't think you will see results after just 1 1 hour lesson, but take what they teach you, practice it 2-3 times per day for 5-10 minutes each time, and see where that takes you. HTH |
02-26-2007, 06:13 AM | #10 |
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| I would not recommend these dog barking devices. Our neighbour had one for a rotty that was causing a nuisence.The battery leaked and the acid burned into the dogs neck I too just make a high pitched ERGH sound to distract. PLEASE DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE COLLARS.
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02-26-2007, 06:46 AM | #11 |
No Longer a Member | If all these fail, try squirting her with a 50-50 mixture of vinegar and water. Set the spray bottle on "stream" and be prepared with bottle in hand. The second she starts that barking, squirt ONE spray at her with whatever no word/sound you use (this "ergh" sounds great, I"m gonna try that!). Then as soon as she's quiet, praise her "good quiet" all happy-like. Make sure NOT to use the same word in the correction as in the praise. For example, don't squirt and say "quiet", and then say "good quiet" when you praise for stopping barking. That is confusing. |
02-26-2007, 07:23 AM | #12 |
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| Please don't put one of those collars on her. What you need is a tin can with some pennys, and everytime she does it shake the can real hard. For some reason this really scares them, and in no time she'll stop that behavior. I'm always afraid those collars might accidentally shock them to much, and I'd have a dead dog. |
02-26-2007, 07:50 AM | #13 |
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| why don't you just take your dog out for a long walk so that she's tired and won't bark, instead of spending the whole day with her inside? |
02-26-2007, 07:52 AM | #14 |
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| The links that i attatched were both not for collars that shock dogs. My first post said that i was looking for something that will not hurt her. Both devices say it they produce a high pitch/frequency sound when the dog is barking. I think it has the same effect as the penny's in a tin can. It is meant to annoy her and make her stop. These devices are battery operated and can be set anywhere. I dont think they hurt the dog in any way. She starts barking for no reason except boredom. When i am home i am usually in my room. When i first get home i play with her and feed her. Then i am studying or something else that i need to do. Chewy spends most of her time in the living room with my parents. She brings all her toys there and plays. Then out of no where she drops the toy and starts growling/biting/barking at whoever is watching tv at that moment. She will NOT stop unless i come into the living room....spend 5 minutes chasing her to catch her and bring her back to my room. We have tried distracting her with a toy...and this is very temporary. She stops for about a minute and then is right back into attacking. As for making more time for her....this semester it just isnt possible for me. I really wish we could do the puppy classes but i would only be able to go one day a week on a weekend and i cant practice with her 2-3 times a day. so i dont think it would be affective right now. Plus i dont have a car because i work in manhattan and live close to my college. So getting to training would be a problem for me right now as well. Thank you for all the advice you guys gave me though. I will definately try the water bottle idea and the harness is very clever as well. It makes sense that that is what her mother would have done. I will try that tonight. |
02-26-2007, 07:58 AM | #15 |
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| She did this when we used to go for walks as well. Lately we havent been going out unless its above 40. But we went out on Saturday and even ran for a block. When we came home she had a bath because it was wet outside and then proceeded to run around the house for half an hour. Probably an hour later she started the crazy barking thing and then i took her into my room and she passed out for a few hours. I didnt start disciplining her from the very beginning when she started this because i thought she may be trying to tell us something. Like something hurts or she wanted something. But when it happens every single night like clockwork it's hard to take. |
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