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Clocey · 01-31-2007, 11:39 AM

I would like to know how to stop agression between my 1 year old yorkies, which both are neutered. We have tried everything but need some new ideas. We have bought toys, everything to keep them active but they just fight for whatever the other one has. Has anyone else had this problem. it is becoming very frustrating, I've talked with our Vet and nothing seems to work. We love both of them very much and would hate to have to separate them.

JPop & Taz 2 · 01-31-2007, 11:54 AM

I'm having the same problem, except neither of mine are neutered. It's usually the alpha male that starts the fights, JPop. Taz is scared to death; hides from him. I'm been putting JPop in time out in the bathroom for a couple of minutes. I talked to my vet about the problem. He said by putting JPop in time out, I'm actually punishing him for being top dog. Says they both know who top dog is. Ceasar Milan had a show this weekend that related to this also. He says to not cuddle or baby the underdog, just try to get between them and distract the agressor. I'm trying this but its hard not to pick up Taz and love on him when JPop is mean to him. BTW I think mine all stems from jeasouly. If someone has better advise I'm all ears.

Clocey · 02-01-2007, 07:47 AM

Thanks for your reply. My vet said to get them neutered, which I did and it was some better but still fight over food and feeding time is a hassle. We separate them, but one wants to know what the other one is doing. And no matter what toy one picks up the other wants. So it is a constant battle.

If anyone is thinking about getting two puppies at one time, I would not recommend it. I feel it is unfair to the dogs, if they have a dominance issue which is what seems to happen.

sashajade · 02-01-2007, 09:52 AM

i had the same problem between scampi and his son zac.
scampi was top dog , zac got ill and i was giving more attention to zac than normal and zac then thought he was top dog so started attacking scampi, the fights were very bad though and they would not part, one time my mum and i had to hold them over an hour still attached to each other so they didnt shake each other and really do some damage.
i started to show scampi more attention and fed, stroked and put scampi before zac, if zac came to me i would have to push him away and pick scampi up, this went on for months, it was so bad they couldnt be in the same room.
after months of treating zac different and putting scampi first in everything it all stopped and they got on again.
you have to show the other which one of the dogs is the top dog after you, fed the top dog first, stroke it first, make the other wait till the top dog goes through the door first, if both get on your lap put the other dog down and keep the top dog on your lap.
if that doesnt work the vet can give the under dog a hormone injection, my sister did this with her dog and it worked. try to think when it all started, if something had happened, if one had been ill things like that, there is normaly a reason for why it started.good luck.

celstu1 · 02-01-2007, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Clocey

I would like to know how to stop agression between my 1 year old yorkies, which both are neutered. We have tried everything but need some new ideas. We have bought toys, everything to keep them active but they just fight for whatever the other one has. Has anyone else had this problem. it is becoming very frustrating, I've talked with our Vet and nothing seems to work. We love both of them very much and would hate to have to separate them.

Are they fighting or playing? My boys are 1 year 5months old and have been together since the day they were born! They play with each other and sometimes it gets loud in my house and they chase each other and growl and clank teeth together, but its all in good fun! I know its hard to tell the difference between playing and fighting, it took me a couple months! The few couple months I had them I was always seperating them thinking they were fighting. One day I let it go bc I realized I couldn't keep them seperated all the time and watched them and realized they were playing. One would growl and kick out his back legs at the other one and then the chase would begin! Its really cute to watch them play, 2 little tiny furballs making ungodly noises! hehe

They ARE competitive with toys though! I used to buy 2 of everything, but I stopped doing that. They ONLY want one! so now I buy just one toy and they play fight over it. Occassionally its a serious fight and you can tell the difference, you will be able to tell also in time! When its serious I take the toy away from BOTH of them.

FirstYorkie · 02-01-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocey

We have bought toys, everything to keep them active but they just fight for whatever the other one has.

Is the fighting only over toys, bones, etc or do they fight at other times, too?

red98vett · 02-01-2007, 03:36 PM

Why don't you put this in the Training section so it doesn't get missed ? The General Discussion section moves very fast and GOOD LUCK !! I have no help but I know that must be really upsetting and you do need to do something before one is hurt IF they are really fighting and not just playing

Clocey · 02-02-2007, 08:15 AM

Rocky and Woody usually fight over food, toys, greeting us as we come in the door, and sometimes if they are just starting out as playing but one becomes real aggressive.

We love both of these dogs and are at wits end as what to do. Woody will "over groom" himself which the Vet said is anxiety. They tried him on steroids and that was useless. I have noticed that he will only chew and lick his leg if he doesn't get his way. We have been trying to avoid the whines and wimpering as he chews on his leg and licks all the hair out, since the Vet thinks this is for attention.

We are beginning to think that it isn't fair to our dogs to keep them both together. Maybe they would be happier apart, but we sure would miss one of them.

browniesmom622 · 02-02-2007, 08:24 AM

my boys think they have to have what the other one has but they arent being mean or nasty is this how it is or are they hurting each other

ldenise · 02-02-2007, 08:26 AM

I have the same problem with my 2 males. I have set up an x pen smack in the middle of my living room to keep Buckeye in when i have to leave. they are getting better. it is the alpha spot that the one year old is after and the Buckeye don't want to give up that spot.
what is working , or 1/2 working for us right now is that pop can with pennies in it. when I see Buckeye begining the 'Look' that he gives before the attack, I shake the car hard and sometimes dont have to say anything. sometimes if I catch it soon enough they will calm down and sniff each others face. I have even seen them start to play. so it is working somewhat right now. good luck and if you find a better way let me know.

doortego · 02-02-2007, 08:31 AM

I have no help at all but want to say that you have reinforced my decision to leave Little Bit as an only pup. She is so jealous of my grandchildren sitting in my lap when they come over that I fear another dog would really upset her.

Piccolo's mom · 02-02-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JPop & Taz 2

I'm having the same problem, except neither of mine are neutered. It's usually the alpha male that starts the fights, JPop. Taz is scared to death; hides from him. I'm been putting JPop in time out in the bathroom for a couple of minutes. I talked to my vet about the problem. He said by putting JPop in time out, I'm actually punishing him for being top dog. Says they both know who top dog is. Ceasar Milan had a show this weekend that related to this also. He says to not cuddle or baby the underdog, just try to get between them and distract the agressor. I'm trying this but its hard not to pick up Taz and love on him when JPop is mean to him. BTW I think mine all stems from jeasouly. If someone has better advise I'm all ears.

Piccolois 13 m and Annie is 9. I have Annie for 9 days and Piccolo since he was 12 weeks. They fight like crazy and sometimes I think it's serious.
How do you know which dog is #2 and which is #3 ?

Yorkiedaze · 02-02-2007, 09:10 AM

I just posted this for someone else.
You need to show more authority to them. Show them YOU are the alpha and YOUR in charge. When they start looking as if they are going to go at it, step in the middle with your palms to each of their faces and just make sure you DO feel in charge. They can pick up on vibes. Take them by the cuff of the neck for restraining if necessary and just hold them like that untill they calm down. You have got to take charge of this situation before one of them gets seriously hurt. I've seen dogs get their eyes put out over this same behavior.

They are a lot like having kids...........never let them be in charge.

01-31-2007, 11:39 AM	#1
Clocey Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 29	Question about agression between two male yorkies I would like to know how to stop agression between my 1 year old yorkies, which both are neutered. We have tried everything but need some new ideas. We have bought toys, everything to keep them active but they just fight for whatever the other one has. Has anyone else had this problem. it is becoming very frustrating, I've talked with our Vet and nothing seems to work. We love both of them very much and would hate to have to separate them.

02-01-2007, 09:52 AM	#4
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	i had the same problem between scampi and his son zac. scampi was top dog , zac got ill and i was giving more attention to zac than normal and zac then thought he was top dog so started attacking scampi, the fights were very bad though and they would not part, one time my mum and i had to hold them over an hour still attached to each other so they didnt shake each other and really do some damage. i started to show scampi more attention and fed, stroked and put scampi before zac, if zac came to me i would have to push him away and pick scampi up, this went on for months, it was so bad they couldnt be in the same room. after months of treating zac different and putting scampi first in everything it all stopped and they got on again. you have to show the other which one of the dogs is the top dog after you, fed the top dog first, stroke it first, make the other wait till the top dog goes through the door first, if both get on your lap put the other dog down and keep the top dog on your lap. if that doesnt work the vet can give the under dog a hormone injection, my sister did this with her dog and it worked. try to think when it all started, if something had happened, if one had been ill things like that, there is normaly a reason for why it started.good luck. __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

02-01-2007, 03:36 PM	#7
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Why don't you put this in the Training section so it doesn't get missed ? The General Discussion section moves very fast and GOOD LUCK !! I have no help but I know that must be really upsetting and you do need to do something before one is hurt IF they are really fighting and not just playing __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

02-02-2007, 08:15 AM	#8
Clocey Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 29	The agression can come on over anything Rocky and Woody usually fight over food, toys, greeting us as we come in the door, and sometimes if they are just starting out as playing but one becomes real aggressive. We love both of these dogs and are at wits end as what to do. Woody will "over groom" himself which the Vet said is anxiety. They tried him on steroids and that was useless. I have noticed that he will only chew and lick his leg if he doesn't get his way. We have been trying to avoid the whines and wimpering as he chews on his leg and licks all the hair out, since the Vet thinks this is for attention. We are beginning to think that it isn't fair to our dogs to keep them both together. Maybe they would be happier apart, but we sure would miss one of them.

02-02-2007, 08:24 AM	#9
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01-31-2007, 11:54 AM	#2
JPop & Taz 2 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: LA Posts: 989	I'm having the same problem, except neither of mine are neutered. It's usually the alpha male that starts the fights, JPop. Taz is scared to death; hides from him. I'm been putting JPop in time out in the bathroom for a couple of minutes. I talked to my vet about the problem. He said by putting JPop in time out, I'm actually punishing him for being top dog. Says they both know who top dog is. Ceasar Milan had a show this weekend that related to this also. He says to not cuddle or baby the underdog, just try to get between them and distract the agressor. I'm trying this but its hard not to pick up Taz and love on him when JPop is mean to him. BTW I think mine all stems from jeasouly. If someone has better advise I'm all ears.

02-01-2007, 07:47 AM	#3
Clocey Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 29	Good to Know I'm not the only one Thanks for your reply. My vet said to get them neutered, which I did and it was some better but still fight over food and feeding time is a hassle. We separate them, but one wants to know what the other one is doing. And no matter what toy one picks up the other wants. So it is a constant battle. If anyone is thinking about getting two puppies at one time, I would not recommend it. I feel it is unfair to the dogs, if they have a dominance issue which is what seems to happen.

02-02-2007, 08:26 AM	#10
ldenise YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Rancho Viejo, Tx Posts: 2,698	I have the same problem with my 2 males. I have set up an x pen smack in the middle of my living room to keep Buckeye in when i have to leave. they are getting better. it is the alpha spot that the one year old is after and the Buckeye don't want to give up that spot. what is working , or 1/2 working for us right now is that pop can with pennies in it. when I see Buckeye begining the 'Look' that he gives before the attack, I shake the car hard and sometimes dont have to say anything. sometimes if I catch it soon enough they will calm down and sniff each others face. I have even seen them start to play. so it is working somewhat right now. good luck and if you find a better way let me know. __________________ Buckeye, Ahia, Tressie, Archie & LDenise Dogs are really people with short legs in fur coats

02-02-2007, 08:31 AM	#11
doortego Little Bit & Buttons Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: US Posts: 2,160	I have no help at all but want to say that you have reinforced my decision to leave Little Bit as an only pup. She is so jealous of my grandchildren sitting in my lap when they come over that I fear another dog would really upset her.

02-02-2007, 09:10 AM	#13
Yorkiedaze My hairy-legged girls Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lompoc, ca. Posts: 12,228	I just posted this for someone else. You need to show more authority to them. Show them YOU are the alpha and YOUR in charge. When they start looking as if they are going to go at it, step in the middle with your palms to each of their faces and just make sure you DO feel in charge. They can pick up on vibes. Take them by the cuff of the neck for restraining if necessary and just hold them like that untill they calm down. You have got to take charge of this situation before one of them gets seriously hurt. I've seen dogs get their eyes put out over this same behavior. They are a lot like having kids...........never let them be in charge.