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Mommy of Brandi 01-21-2007 05:41 PM

I know 75 years old isn't THAT old.....but wouldn't that be a lot of work for an "older person?" didn't the SS paper say she was born in 1932? and I'm still going with my thought........maybe she passed away or something and whoever is scamming you....saw the obit and just used her name........(my son is a cop....sorry I think of all these weird things)

Lady of Yorkies 01-21-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mommy of Brandi
I know 75 years old isn't THAT old.....but wouldn't that be a lot of work for an "older person?" didn't the SS paper say she was born in 1932? and I'm still going with my thought........maybe she passed away or something and whoever is scamming you....saw the obit and just used her name........(my son is a cop....sorry I think of all these weird things)


1935, For all the difference 3 years makes. LOL Sylvia

jerrystroud 02-14-2007 09:37 AM

Evelyn Crudup being investigated by law enforcement
 
I too got took by this Evelyn Crudup in Missouri. She was referred to me by "another breeder", Anita Hogan from Palm Bay, Florida. I reported this to the FBI IC3 site and recieved a call from the police who are investigating and going after her. I doubt if I would ever see my money again, but if they put these people behind bars, I will be happy. If any sees either Crudup or Hogan's name, run. They may be the same person.

These poeple may not know they violated federal laws by using the internet and wire transfers acroos state line to commit fraud. Anyway the feds are after them.

I bought a puppy from a local private breeder, examined the puppy, had it checked out. The puppy is doing very well and full of energy and love.

Never would buy anything, pet or otherwise from a private individual again on the internet and especially using a money transfer.

Amber_lv 02-14-2007 09:49 AM

Anita Hogan Why is that name so familiar? Did her name come up on YT?

PeanutnTobysmom 02-14-2007 09:56 AM

jerrystroud
 
I was scammed about 2 1/2 years ago, about 6 mnths prior to finding Peanut, the love of my life. I found a Yorkie on puppyfind that I just fell in love with, spoke to the so-called breeder on the phone who seemed very nice and knowledgable about her dogs, then promptly Western Unioned her $1,000. She gave me the flight conformation number, I brought my very excited daughter with me to the airport, but NO PUPPY! Apparently this woman had booked 10 flights and did not ship one. I tried to get in touch with her but she was no where to be found, so I posted a "Buyer Beware" add on puppyfind and got an unbelievable amount of responses from my fellow victims, alot of which purchased the same non-existant puppy. I reported it to the FBI and found out this woman was using a stolen identity of a dead woman named Cora Robinson. The thiefs real name is Florence Colegrove and after 2 1/2 years the case finally went to court. She stole a total of over $25,000 from more than 20 of us and was given a 2 year suspended sentence with probation. She was ordered to pay back all my money which was $1,060 (including price to Western Union etc) but has 2 years to pay me back. I was sent a letter by the district attorney in Nevada and was given her probation officers phone number and I am supposed to contact him in March. I was amazed this whole process took so long and that this woman got to keep our money for two and a half years but is allowed 2 yrs to pay it back and NO jail time. Grrrrrrr!!!! Jerrystroud, don't give up, justice hopefully will prevail, just hang in there.

jerrystroud 02-14-2007 11:03 AM

Anita Hogan
 
Anita Hogan was also the name of an actress (from Nigeria?). It could be someone is using that name on a referral e-mail address. There is an Evelyn Crudup at the address sent to me. I verified this and also got a telephone number that was also supposed to be valid. The person at the other end denied being Evelyn Crudup but I am sure it was her. Hopefully she will be wearing a set of shiny bracelets soon on her way to her new residence, complete with bars.

bsabbot 02-14-2007 11:20 AM

i replied to sev of these and they are scams... you can usualy tell by the way they type that some are not from here-and they are charging you for weird shipping charges internationally-on some of them.
i have actually gotten a couple of emails back (2 months later) from the newspaper or webad company, stating that i had replied to a fraudulent ad and not to proceed.
I would do a search w/the name or email address in google or type in yorkie scam and you will probably find out if this is a scam????
it's so hard these days but the red flag is the money order.

SweetCuteness 02-14-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by doortego (Post 896206)
As I said before, I am very glad that you got the money back and will get a puppy that you can pick up.

I just have to say, though, weren't any of you uncomfortable with the fact that woman's medical history and private life is on the internet for the whole world to see?

I still wouldn't send her money but I feel embarrassed for her that her privacy has been so invaded.

Maybe I'm totally cruel, but I don't feel sorry for her. Did you read it at all? She was denied disability from SSI because she basically tried to scam them. It was determined that she was not really disabled. She scamed the government, scams innocent puppy buyers - not an ounce of feeling sorry for her by me.

Now, for innocent people that have done nothing wrong, I would feel very bad that their whole life was out there for the world to see.

PeanutnTobysmom 02-14-2007 11:50 AM

I agree with Britta 100%. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I don't think anyone fully understands unless they were the one who was scammed.

SweetCuteness 02-14-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mojo (Post 903987)
I have had 2 puppies flown to me and I do believe the area is unheated. People have said when they got their puppies the water in the bowl was frozedn and such.
If it is too hot the dog would die from being overheated; too cold the dog would freeze. And especially, remember how tiny these little yorkie puppies are.

Just curious, if it was cold enough for the water to freeze, how did the dog not die?

When I was looking at flying Ferdinand to Oregon, all the airlines I called had temperature controlled areas. It was December and it's cold in December up there, but they assured me that the area was heated. I ended up deciding not to do is as to not put him through the trauma.

Lady of Yorkies 02-14-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetCuteness (Post 953950)
Maybe I'm totally cruel, but I don't feel sorry for her. Did you read it at all? She was denied disability from SSI because she basically tried to scam them. It was determined that she was not really disabled. She scamed the government, scams innocent puppy buyers - not an ounce of feeling sorry for her by me.

Now, for innocent people that have done nothing wrong, I would feel very bad that their whole life was out there for the world to see.


Hey, sweetie, the SS administration denies cases to see if they can out last you. You can have a very serious case with all the documentation and they will deny you. If you give up, that's one less person they have to pay. I have not heard of one person who was readily accepted when they were applying for disability. I know this cause my husband had to go thru it and he always has his ears perked for any information that involves SSD.

I'm not saying this lady is on the up and up, you can fool these people. Especially if you have a minor injury that you are claiming is worse than it is. We have heard of these happening too. I'm just saying that this lady MIGHT have needed the SSD, that doesn't give her the right to dupe people. It does make it look like she is predisposed to fraud, tho. Sylvia

genie 02-14-2007 06:48 PM

I work in a er and I see every day people who are drawing disability that are young able body people who just are too lazy to work. They are in better shape than I am. Some of them say they have "nerve problems" some have "back problems" and some of them don't remember why they are recieving disability. I would say that more than half - probably more- of the people are not even disabled...and the ones trying to get their disability keep coming to the er for different complaints over and over. A big thing is that they fake seizures Or they are in a MINOR accident without any vehicle damage and absolutly no injuries and come in the er screaming and crying and saying they are going to "get some money out of this"...get over it and quit trying to find a free ride. Anyway it makes me sick...it makes me so mad and that is one reason I only work 2 days a month now. I know there are ALOT of people that are on disability that needs to be (and alot turned down even though they are unable to work) but I am sick of paying taxes for the ones that don't need it. They can get their lazy a$$ out and get a job like the rest of us. I am sorry if I offended anyone but this is my opinion.

Txgurl06 02-14-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerrystroud (Post 953641)
I too got took by this Evelyn Crudup in Missouri. She was referred to me by "another breeder", Anita Hogan from Palm Bay, Florida. I reported this to the FBI IC3 site and recieved a call from the police who are investigating and going after her. I doubt if I would ever see my money again, but if they put these people behind bars, I will be happy. If any sees either Crudup or Hogan's name, run. They may be the same person.

These poeple may not know they violated federal laws by using the internet and wire transfers acroos state line to commit fraud. Anyway the feds are after them.

I bought a puppy from a local private breeder, examined the puppy, had it checked out. The puppy is doing very well and full of energy and love.

Never would buy anything, pet or otherwise from a private individual again on the internet and especially using a money transfer.


i have all her emails still if you need any help on anything. i got my money back in time. i canceled my money order due to bad feelings and people on here supporting me telling me it was a scam.

CJCinTX 02-14-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetCuteness (Post 953966)
Just curious, if it was cold enough for the water to freeze, how did the dog not die?

When I was looking at flying Ferdinand to Oregon, all the airlines I called had temperature controlled areas. It was December and it's cold in December up there, but they assured me that the area was heated. I ended up deciding not to do is as to not put him through the trauma.

The airline temperature restrictions aren't for the flying temperatures, they're for the temperatures on the ground. Planes can sit on the tarmac or runway for extended periods of times & the pets are in a "holding area" until they're put onboard. Same thing when they arrive at their destination. So if it's exceptionally cold or hot outside, the animals can be exposed to it.

CJ, Former long time travel agent :)

doortego 02-14-2007 09:53 PM

Boring monologue
 
Let me point out that I am definitely not defending this lady and I think the op was very lucky to get her money back. Obviously, others have not been. I just hate that anyone's private medical history can so easily be viewed by the rest of us. And as was previously stated by others, the fact that SS denied her doesn't really tell us rather she deserved it or not. There are many very deserving disabled people who have worked as long as they were able and are denied social security benefits. There are also many undeserving who are receiving them. I just know that I would be embarrassed if my medical history were public information.

I agree that it would be difficult, if not impossible, for a severely disabled person to breed and properly care for Yorkies without assistance. Mine is a lot of trouble and requires more energy than I can come up with some days.

As far as buying a puppy, I would not buy one where I could not go to the breeder's house and see the puppy and at least, the mother. Fortunately, I was able to see both parents and their living conditions. However, I probably would be even more picky in the future after reading of some of the problems other YTers have faced..

Also, personally, I agree with those who have stated that you really need to be financially ready to take on such a responsibility. If it is necessary to borrow the purchase price, you probably really should wait a little longer. Even a perfectly healthy pup is quite expensive.

I could start a whole thread, based on life lessons, how America as a whole is living beyond its means. To be brutally honest, if we don't have the money in savings for life's necessities, we really can't afford the luxury of our little furbabies.

Umm, I need to very carefully climb down from my soap box, before I break something:animal-pa


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