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05-13-2005, 06:16 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005
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| Non_breeding Quality Hi! I am new here to this community and I had a question. Last week I purchased a 6-week yorkie for a pet for $250. His AKC papers say that he is non-breeding quality and non-show quality and she did not make the limitations box. I am really not interesting in breeding little romeo right now, however I was very curious to know what this means and if that means I didn't get a full blood yorkie. He looks like a yorkie..... Anyways, please help me. Also is that bad that she sold him only after he was 6 weeks old. She told me that the dad was a champion and the mom was AKC registered. Thanks for your help |
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05-13-2005, 06:27 AM | #2 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada
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| I just asked my breeder about this one , she answered that a non-breeding and non-showing have nothing to do with what you call full blood . Those terms mean that your Yorkie is not what the breeder research for breeding or showing . My breeder put non-breeding and must spay/neuter contract on puppies who have bad faults . |
05-13-2005, 11:43 AM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005
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| so does that mean if I do decided to breed him the puppies will be defective or something. What is the quality of breeding? |
05-13-2005, 12:00 PM | #4 |
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| A non - breeding , non - showing clause mean that you don't have the right to breed or show the dog . It means Never . It is a form of protection that some breeders use to protect their lines . I don't use this form when I have pet pups , I have the pups spayed or neutered before they leave my house , so they are no confusions for the new owners buying ones . May seems too strict but I love when things are clear between me and the potential owner . I worked hard to have what I have now . |
05-13-2005, 01:52 PM | #5 |
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| Non breeding means that you'll not be able to breed from him . |
05-13-2005, 02:03 PM | #6 |
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| pup If you did not sign a contract stating you will not breed your pup, you may do as you please. The breeder has the burden of responsiblity to prevent a pet quality pup from being bred. It should be limited regs and a spay/neuter contract. IF this breeder is telling you the truth and the sire is a champion, please give me her name and I am reporting her to the YTCA..no one is premitted to sell at 6 weeks..club bylaws state 12 weeks..usually anyone with a champion stud is a club member..do you have a pedigree? |
05-13-2005, 02:04 PM | #7 |
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| papers There is no place on the AKC papers stating the quality of the dog..only full or limited regs. |
05-13-2005, 05:52 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2005
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| I apologize. I got the papers out and the contract states..."The puppy is registered with AKC & CKC kennel clubs both are aware that we are not going to check limited registration. However, it is being sold at a lower price because it is pet quality, not high quality breeding stock or show quality... and she did not check limited on the papers.. does this still mean I can not breed Little Romeo if I decide to in the future? Should I be concern that something is wrong with my puppy? We are going for a vet check tomorrow... |
05-13-2005, 06:02 PM | #9 |
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| puppy You can do as you please..but if the dog is not breed quality, why invest your time and money in a litter? You realize a breeding male is a cocking, peeing machine in the house. Is there a CH. in front of the sires name..if not, the sire is not a champiuon as she states? |
05-13-2005, 06:07 PM | #10 |
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| I would agree that if the breeder is saying that your yorkie is not breeding quality and even sold him for less money, then she knows something about "why" he should not be bred. You could always call her and ask her why she sold him as a companion and not for breeding stock. |
05-14-2005, 03:32 AM | #11 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada
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| Who is your breeder ? Which CKC , Is it the Continental Kennel Club or the Canadian Kennel Club ? I read in some posts there are different registering organizations . Gazou is registered with the Canadian Kennel Club . |
05-14-2005, 09:00 AM | #12 |
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| mababygirl4you! Welcome to Yorkie Talk and congratulations on your new yorkie. I am not a breeder and I have only been a yorkie owner for a few months so my knowledge is limited. You have asked a slightly controversial question right off the bat and you will get a lot of different opinions from different people on here. That is what is so cool about this board is you can really do your homework and listen to what everyone else thinks and then make an educated decision for yourself and your dog. It sounds like your breeder is simply stating that your male is not of "high breeding quality". Does this mean he is of "above average, average or below average" breeding quality? Since she did not make you agree contractually to have him neutered and he wasn't sold with a limited registration, you are free to do what you decide is best. There are a lot of things to look at in deciding whether or not to breed a dog. Some people (mostly shpw breeders) feel you should only breed when you are doing it to "better the breed". This usually means you are trying to get puppies who are as close to the "breed standard" as stated by the American Kennel Association" as possible. Some others feel it is perfectly okay to breed "anything" and there is a whole range of people in the middle who feel temperament is more important than outward appearance (what the breed standard concentrates on) or that a pet quality animal is just as important as a show quality animal. There are lots of "breeding quality" dogs that are not "show quality". A lot of breeders will breed a nice size female who is not perfectly within the standard if she has traits they are trying to improve upon in their "line" for example, and the male seems to be the one who has the most dominant genes apparently. Ask a breeder about this because I could be wrong. Anyway, I would check with your breeder to see if there are any "genetic health defects" that could be passed on to a litter he may produce, but if she is a responsible, caring breeder, she should have already informed you if this were the case and insisted upon the dog being neutered. You can also get further clarification from her about what she meant by not of "high breeding quality". I think it's important, since you are learning, to have the dog examined by several other breeders and get second and third opinions from people as well as the opinion of your vet. Welcome to the wonderful world of yorkies. Hope you love it like we do!! Last edited by SoCalyorkiLvr; 05-14-2005 at 09:08 AM. |
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