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I think that it's not simply that some people are bashing others for having tiny yorkies, it's much more about their general approach to responding to questions posted. People are often enough too fast to judge. It's one thing that it's an open forum and everybody should be welcome to express their opinions, and it is a completely different thing when those opinions take a form of unsubstantiated accusations and judgments. While there are people on this forum that became friends over the years and, thus, had an opportunity to get to know each other better as well as to learn of each other's living arrangements, attitudes, and approaches to taking care of their animals, most of us don't really have all the information about each of the posters to make a valid judgment. The extent of our knowledge is what is said on the post, which is a few sentences. If there is anything that might be apparent from the post, it's that people on this forum love their yorkies, love to the point of treating them like their babies, love so much, that they are concerned with certain issues, puzzled over certain questions, and eager to resolve certain problems regarding their yorkies. The goal of all those questions is to get information that can help them to be better parents to their animals. Is this a valid cause to be bashed? I don't think so. There are people here that are more sensitive than others. So, while some may simply disregard ignorant and judgmental replies posted, others can be quite harmed and taken out of their equilibrium. It should not be the case. This forum was built to be a great resource for everybody. People should not be afraid or hesitant to post their questions here because of the threat of being judged. Information and learning are great gifts. The more we know, the better parents we are to our little babies. Aren't we here to do precisely that - learn how to raise better, happier and healthier yorkies? |
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FlDebra...the original post insinuated jealousy - I hope when I posted you don't think I meant you... but the feeling I got was that people are jealous of little dogs and I just don't see it !! I can't think of one time myself I was jealous....(ok a FEW times lol) :p but in general - I think most all of us are very happy with our yorkies and I personally have never seen anyone bashed for having a tiny. Warning someone and bashing are 2 different things and the little guys can have special needs and people need to be a bit more cautious with them - but I don't think in my time on this site have I ever seen anyone bashed over this - (cept for those breeding tinies - that's a whole different subject) Girl - We love you ! everything's cool - |
The only posts I have seen where I would say there was bashing of sorts was when breeders come on to post puppies for sale and they make a big deal out of the fact that the parents are so tiny and the puppies will be tiny too. They are purposely breeding to get tinies and people dont like that too much. But on the other hand it seems I have seen alot of 4 sale ads here that the people get bashed for selling or breeding the teapots too. Then there are the baby doll yorkie people that are selling the TEASPOONS. Everyone has an opinion and that is just whatt it is........an opinion. People here just care about yorkies and want too see healthy ones that stay within the breed standard and I think the bashing occurs when you are trying to get the tinies so you can charge major bucks for them. I have seen them charging $8000.00 for them. |
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For SOME people small size seems to be a status symbol, even using the words, "they are just jealous" suggests that smaller is better. This seem like a dangerous idea to pass on, not only because some breeders will be more inclined to breed undersize dogs, but because some owners might limit a pup's food in order to create a smaller adult. Malnourished animals do not reach their full growth potential, and insecure people are always looking for status symbols that make them feel better about themselves. Overall, though, I am very happy that most of you embrace all sizes. Nancy |
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I think just the fact that you (the original poster) were able to voice this concern, and get this many replies, WITHOUT anyone "attacking" you, or things turning into a fight....I think that's testiment to how great this site really is. :thumbup: :) :thumbup: |
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I have to admit that when I bought Max, I wanted a tiny. I was told that he would be 4 pounds full grown and was delighted. I guess I fell for all the hype with the pictures of the tiny, dainty little dogs, etc. When Max reached 5 lbs. at about 4 months, I realized that bubble had just popped, but I had also begun to hear about how fragile the tinies can be. Even now, sometimes I'll be somehwere with Max and put him down, and he'll flop. I'll forget just how tiny he is (about 6-6.5 lbs at 8 months). Of course, if he was a tiny, I'd still adore him, but just be even more careful. We all love our dogs on this site and care about each others dogs. Our concern for the tinies is just because of that - we love them, and while they are healthy,they need to be watched over a little more because they can be a bit more fragile. Welcome to YT and just take whatever is said as it is meant. We love your dog. Not everyone says what they mean 100% perfectly all of the time. Judy |
ok.....I admit......I am the ONE!!!!! The one that is jealous!!!!!!!! OF ALL OF YOU WITH YORKIES!!!!! Tiny or not.....the right one is out there for ALL :yorkietal :yorkietal :yorkiesar :yorkiesar :hearts-en :hearts-en |
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I think that like any subject you need to be educated. I first wanted a Yorkie years ago because my kids were in thier teens and I was ready to bond with a dog. I wanted a small one that I could take everywhere and fit into my purse. When I called ads in the paper one breeder was caring and stern that her pups were not "Purse puppies". Her comment struck a cord and hurt a little but it made me want to understand the breed more. She really got me to think differently and I started to research so I did understand. Later, I did wind up getting a puppy from her but we had to visit the pup for weeks and I felt that we were being interviewed. I really liked her cause she really cared about her "babies" and not the money. Now, ten years down the road we are great friends and I call her for most advice about Yorkies. I sure have learned so much and see this site as a way to educate many newbies just as we all were at one time. "Pass it on" and "When you know better you do better" are fitting cliche's. As long as it is done with empathy and compassion in your heart it is a great service to Yorkies everywhere. |
I agree that education is the key. I know I have been one of those who have made some cautionary comments about little yorkies. One on my yorkies is 5.5 pounds and the other is 2.5 pounds. I don't have half the worries with the bigger one than the smaller one. And little Tia just broke her leg jumping off the couch and it ended up costing a lot of $$$. I believe all pet owner need to be informed about all aspects of their pet. And, fact is that the smaller dogs have some risked that larger dog don't. So as long as an owner is prepared for what could happen, then size shouldn't enter into it. Mandy, welcome to YT. I am so glad that your furbaby is healthy and strong. Tia is too (she is my 2.5 pounder), but I really learnt a lesson when she jumped. I really realized how truly careful I needed to be :) |
I just think there are a few people that are very quick to jump on any poster who uses the words "teacup" or "tiny" and I do believe that may hurt the feelings of some who love their smaller Yorkies. Usually those same people are the ones that refer to a small Yorkie as "not being bred to standard" which they erroneously believe is 4 to 7 lbs and prophesy all kinds of health problems. I don't understand why they can't understand that such a post is offensive. If someone told me my child was too big or too little or sickly, I would also be offended by that. Common courtesy should be the rule in all cases. Hope everyone had a really great Christmas. |
My first Yorkie weighed in at 6.5 pounds and was never healthy all his life. Now I have Cody who is 3.8 pounds and is the healthiest dog I have ever had but there are issues with him being so small that he is fragile. I worry about him getting hurt more than I did with Dustin. But, I think like everyone else on here, once we bring them home they are perfect and loveable in our eyes no matter what the size!!! |
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Owning A Tiny Dog Does Require More Care And I Am Not Talking Bout Grooming And All That Good Stuff. They Need Special Care To Check If Their Blood Sugar Is At A Normal Level And If They Are Eating Enough Or Warm Enough. They Are Definitely More Time Consuming So If You Are Working Long Hours Forget About Getting One Unless You Are Willing To Pay A Reputable Vet To Babysit While You Are Gone. My Tiny Baby Had Hypoglycemia And I Thought I Was Careful With Her But Obviously It Wasnt Enough. After Hundreds Of Dollars In Vet Bills The Vet Said She Seem To Be Doing Okay Now. The Worst Is Over But I Am Still Stressing About Her 24/7 Worrying If She Going To Get Another Episode. They May Seem Fine A Minute And The Next They Are Low In Sugar. Even If They Are Eating Really Well Like Mine They Can Still Get Low Blood Sugar. Always Have Nutri Cal Ready And Kyro Syrup Or Anything That Will Quickly Boost Their Sugar Level. Even If They React To The Sugars You Are Giving Them Make Sure They Eat After Because The Sugar Level Can Easily Drop Again But The Food Will Actually Keep The Sugar Level Stable And Let It Stay Up At That Level For A While. The Sugars Will Boost The Sugar Level Up And Drop Fast If They Dont Eat. To Be On The Safe Side Still Take Your Baby To The Vet. You Have To Check On Them Every Hour Almost Until They Are Couple Months Old. They Are So Fragile. You Can Never Be Too Careful With These Little Darlings But With Proper Care They Will Bring Years Of Joy To Anyones Life And That Is Priceless. |
I've been away from here for a while, partly because of the bickering that was going on when I was here. I did not participate, but did see some very angry words exchanged. Just finished reading this thread, and either the problem people did not post here, or they have gone away. This was a very healthy discussion of an interesting topic. My pup is a 2.9# extremely healthy girl who is 1 year and 3 months old. She was spayed recently and our vet said she is the healthiest small yorkie that he has seen. (Our vet has a large practice, specializing in companion pets.)She was bred from standard parents, and just happened to be small. So the comments about tiny yorkies resulting from the breeding of standard parents being healthier than those bred to be small may be very true. He said that most of the tiny's that he sees have some health issue. I think this says a lot for responsible breeding. Zoe's breeder is a wonderful lady who extremely responsible in her breeding program. By the way, I'm one of those people who wanted a small dog. 4 lbs would be ideal, but 3 to 4 lbs is the range I personally like. Zoe is wonderful, and I love that she can curl up in my lap, fall asleep on my shoulder. Since she's healthy everything is fine. She went upstairs with me yesterday and when we came down, she got stuck on the bottom stair and was afraid to hop to the floor. I realized this when she started yapping. This was so cute and would not have happened with a larger dog. Nothing against any size. They are all wonderful, we like what we like and have to accept the responsibilty of our decisions for what we have. |
Wow. That original post is interesting. I have been on YT since my first yorkie died last March. I have never seen "bashing" of owners because they want or have small dogs. My yorkied that died was 11lbs. He was only 7 when he died and he had health problems due to bad breeding. Thanks to YT members, I learned what to look for in a breeder and in the puppy. AND...I even found a breeder on here that I adopted my baby from. My new baby is 3.5lbs full grown and appears to be really healthy. So, size is not really the issue when it comes to how much we love them or how healthy they are. |
You know I have 2 tinies (tea cups :eek: , 2.13 ounces, 3 lbs. :p ) and guess what I want another one, the more everyone says not to get them it makes me want one more.. I don't see where everyone keeps saying they are more suitible to problems I don't see it and mine jump, run, dance, sing, bark all the time like a BIG dog does and NO problems, no broken bones.. The only problem I ever had was hypoglacemia *spelling* in my little male and have learned since it was caused because of him having tape worms, but tape worms are gone and so is the hypoglacemia, they ate everything he ate so of course his body could not handle it, neitheir could a 20 lb. dog... All I'm saying is I understand what the original poster is talking about everyone is so quick to judge a TINY and the fact of the matter is they are as healthy and suitible to probalems as all your 5-20 pounder's are.. I'v said it before and I will say it again, IF A DOG IS GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WHETHER THEY ARE 2 POUNDS OR 20 POUNDS!!! |
i think sometimes people get the wrong end of the stick on here cos its just words on a screen and you cant hear what kind of tone was used as you can when hearing a voice. ive just replyed to a post where someone thought i was bashing them for having a tiny when i wasnt i was having a go about breeders who take people for a ride by chargeing them more for a tiny when the price for a yorkie should be about the mum and dad , the pedigree, the health, and if they think the pup will be breed standard. i love big small tiny or even if they have 3 legs and one eye:D |
Sorry...I get long winded hehe I will say...When I first started looking for a yorkie, I knew right away it would be a long process. for several reasons...I wanted my baby to come from a home where they raise the puppies in their home and are well socialized by the time I bring her home. That seems really hard to find these days. I wanted a female...and I knew that for a fact. Not because I think males are any different when it comes to yorkies...but simply because I have always had female dogs and that is just my personal preference. And it seems that females are usually the first to go. I know of a little bitty tiny yorkie and thought that I wanted the smallest one I could find. but after looking at many chat forums regarding yorkies, the same message came across loud and clear...make sure you know what you are getting. Because they are so delicate and are often not as healthy. I never got offended by this, even though I was convinced I wanted the smallest one I could find. Well, I finally found the yorkie pup that was perfect for me...and she is not going to be that tiny. she is 2.8 lbs right now and is 12 weeks old. She is expected to be about 4-5 lbs and while I thought i wanted a much smaller one, I was quickly made aware that it is not the size of the dog I should be after, but yet one that fits my personality and lifestyle. and one that I could bond with. I didn't exactly stay away from the smaller ones, but I knew that I needed to think long and hard about what was really best for my home and my lifestyle. and after many people posted the concerns about smaller yorkies, I was thankful that they did. Otherwise, I would have simply gone on a hunt for a teeny tiny female and never knew what to look out for. Probably until it was too late. I do not think that people intend to "bash" others that are wanting a little tiny baby, I think they simply want to help educate them. It is so tempting to have that little bitty "smallest dog ever" to dress up and tote around with you. But if you immediately go after that without any knowledge of what could lie ahead, you could end up heartbroken. Not saying that all tiny yorks are unhealthy..I know several that are extremely healthy and live wonderful lives. But I just don't know that everyone is aware of what they are getting into when to go for that fantasy yorkie. I know now that all I needed to be concerned with when finding my yorkie baby was that she was healthy. And yes, that she was a female :) Mandee |
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