Vaccine warning

[qraven]

Hi everyone, I have not posted on YT very much. I just want to warn anyone that gives their fur babies their own vaccinations. This is a long story but I feel all dog lovers need to know this.

Back in August 2 of my Yorkies had a litter between the 2 there was 12 puppies (now the large litter of 7 I had to keep alive as this was a fluke) Anyway as they grew and came of age for their first shot we used a vaccine called Spectra 7 (now my babies get wormed every 2 weeks after they turn 2 weeks old) Then 2 weeks later they had their second set of shots. A week after this my neighbors dog that they found had Parvo. I was not alarmed since
#1 My dogs had their shots
#2 they never are outside and remain in my house, They all have a private potty and play area in our back yard with a doggir dorr back to the house.
#3 their dogs stay on their property, but we do go to visit each other for tea ect
Well on Nov 25 Pepper one of the girl pups became ill we just thought she had eaten something that didn't agree with her but by the 26th she and 3others had passed away. We did get the remaining babies to the ER clinic and they did test positive for PARVO !!! By Monday morning 4 of the babies were alive but by Tues afternoon 3 remained and our Sebastian who also was given a booster of this Spectra 7 was ill and rushed to the vet he tested pos for PARVO as well. He is 18 months old. He is a doll and was to be shown. Today Sebastian is still at the vets. Our vet was very upset and asked what vaccine we were using and his response was this vaccine is cheap and not effective. I did call Durvet the company that makes Spectra and their response was that no vaccine is effective. Now if I was talking about 1-3 of the puppies I would think fine but I am talking about all my babies that were vaccinated with this bogus vaccine and there is no warning to the public that your dog can still get Parvo even after the shots.
The interesting thing is Callie and Puppet who were 5 months was vaccinated different as in Callie had the Spectra and she has passed away and Puppet had Vangard and is still alive !!!!!
This vet even made a comment about the age of my pups which they were 13 weeks and about ready to go to their new families he told me it is normal to sell a pup at 8 weeks. Anyway I just want to warn anyone that does their own shots stay away from this vaccine .... It has destroyed my babies and their future mommies

This is a copy of info they have on Valley Vet about one of the spectra vaccines.... I do not see any warnings abotu still being able to contract Parvo ..oh these pups had really stopped nursing at 5 1/2 weeks...not my choice they did it on their own

Please help me warn others .. I just cannot bare the thought that another baby would suffer this way and I so regret the day I switched to this .. Will be going back to Vangard


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Canine Spectra™ Parvo
Schering-Plough Animal Health Corp.

Parvovirus vaccine, modified live

Description;
Canine Spectra Parvo vaccine is a modified live virus vaccine containing a CPV Type 2b strain for the vaccination of healthy dogs as an aid in the prevention of disease caused by canine parvovirus.

Dosage and Administration:
Inject one dose (1 ml) subcutaneously or intramuscularly. The initial dose may be given at 6 weeks of age or older. Repeat at 2 to 4 week intervals until the dog is 12 weeks of age. Annual revaccination with one dose is recommended. Use entire contents immediately.

Step 1: Withdraw mixture into syringe.

Step 2: To administer subcutaneously, gently grasp and elevate a fold of loose skin.

Step 3: Insert the needle into the loose tissue under the skin. Suggested vaccination site: under loose skin (back of neck).

Precautions:
Store at 35° to 45°F (2° to 7°C). Do not freeze. Use new, non-chemically sterilized needles and syringes. Do not mix with other vaccines. Burn vaccine containers and all unused contents. For veterinary use only. For use in dogs only.

Warnings:
Vaccinate only healthy, non-parasitized dogs. Do not vaccinate pregnant bitches. Contains gentamicin as a preservative. The use of this biological may produce anaphylaxis and/or other inflammatory immune-mediated hypersensitivity reactions. Antidote: Epinephrine, corticosteroids, and antihistamines may all be indicated depending on the nature and severity of the reaction. The age at which maternal antibody for canine parvovirus no longer interferes with the development of active immunity varies according to the bitch’s titer and quantity of colostral antibodies absorbed by the puppy.

[chachi]

How tragic! I am sorry that happened to your babies

[Julz]

What an absolute nightmare! OMG, that is just too much to even try to imagine. I am so sorry for the tremendous loss you have suffered. There was a girl who used to be a member here some time back and her Yorkie got Parvo even though she was up to date on her shots. I think it may be like getting the flu shot. This is so very tragic. I would definetly research the Spectra 7 more and find out if it is useless. If your findings are what it seems they will be, you should be compensated for your tremendous loss. Thank you so much for coming on here and warning others.

[red98vett]

WAY TO GO WARNING OTHERS & how truly sad for you. It's true that some parvo vaccines are not effective and very young puppies are at the greatest risk - That was so heartbreaking to read and I'm so sorry.

[FlDebra]

That had to be devastating! Sorry to hear of such a loss. Thanks for sharing the warning.

[qraven]

I wish this had never happened but now I want to know how I can get justice for my babies. We bought the Vaccine at Tractor Supply Com aka TSC and the manager only response is we sell 1000's of this vaccine and he has never heard of any trouble with it before.

Am sending a letter off to AVMA think will send to BBB as well and report TSC along with it !!!

If anyone wants to cross post this to other forums go for it as I am not that smart to find them all.

[doortego]

I am so sorry for the loss of these precious babies. Are you saying that they were exposed only by germs from your clothing from visiting with your neighbor? No direct contact with the infected animal? Had you been using this same vaccination for litters in the past? What is the difference in the vaccine from Spectra & Vanguard? In checking the recordsof my my pup, I see that my breeder used Vanguard as well. Is there a huge price difference in the two vaccines? How many of the pups/dogs lived and how many survived?

[midnightmist]

Description;
Canine Spectra Parvo vaccine is a modified live virus vaccine containing a CPV Type 2b strain for the vaccination of healthy dogs as an aid in the prevention of disease caused by canine parvovirus.


Is it just me but I read it as an aid in the prevention of disease ,not it will prevent.If this is the right wording they are not claiming that this vaccine will stop any dog getting the virus,but it might stop them from catching it.
So sorry for all your losses,it must be heartbreaking.Over here only vets give innoculations for major diseases so we do have some comeback.

[dhudson4]

I am sorry for yor loss.

[qraven]

Originally Posted by doortego

I am so sorry for the loss of these precious babies. Are you saying that they were exposed only by germs from your clothing from visiting with your neighbor? No direct contact with the infected animal? Had you been using this same vaccination for litters in the past? What is the difference in the vaccine from Spectra & Vanguard? In checking the recordsof my my pup, I see that my breeder used Vanguard as well. Is there a huge price difference in the two vaccines? How many of the pups/dogs lived and how many survived?

Right they never had direct contact with the infected animal. There are 3 puppies that lived as of today. I had hip surgery last week so my hubby is the nurse and doing a bang up job through his anger.

All the puppies/dogs that did have the vangard did not get sick. I had 5 Biewers all of them had Vangard and I had 6 Yorkies one was a special needs when she was born by all rights she should not have lived then and was 1 yr old she passed along with the 9 babies so total that died was 11 and 4 that survived. Our Sebastian who is 18 months and was to be shown just came home tonight but the vet shaved him not sure why but who cares he lived !!

All 3 vets that worked on our fur babies said this Spectra is the cheapest and least effective vaccine on the market. As for the price is not that cheap. Hubby bought to save time and I am keeping my mouth shut on that as he is on a huge guilt trip and our main vet took care of him. Plus we do buy our horse//sheep vaccine well used to buy from TSC and the guy there talked him into switching.. Friggin TSC is not standing behind their product at all !!!

With my surgery and the loss I just am devasted

I wanted to go to other breed forums and post this but I could not sit here long enough.

I am going to put a memory page and warning up with their pictures onto my web site as soon as I feel better. I just will not let this just go away at all

[Dawgcrazee]

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I am so sorry that you suffered such a great loss.
Teri

[LunasMomma]

OMG, I am so sorry That's just devastaving

Thank you for sharing this with us. I'm sure that there are some folks here that will know where to crosspost this. Now I wonder whether this is the same vaccine that some vets use, or not?

BIG hugs to you and yours. I'm sure that your husband feels extra badly, but he musn't, as he didn't know. Please take care of each other at this tragic time.

[annaschaben]

Thank God, I just did our vaccines and I used Vanguard.

[Bruce's_Mom]

Please please be forewarned that Parvo can live up to 6 months and continue infecting your dogs....

I have just within the hour been reading up on Parvo as Bruce has gotten mystery diaheria (which I do not believe is parvo) and I became panicked...This is what I have learned/
(1) NO VACCINE IS FOOL PROOF (which I am discovering some are better than others obviously from this thread), and puppies vaccinated or not remain HIGHLY SUSCEPTIBLE to the disease until about 20 weeks although it is a huge danger for any dog, but for young pups the vaccines of any variety may be especially ineffective because the antibody protection the puppy acquires from its mother can interfere with vaccination.
(2) Parvo can last a long time in the environment, perhaps as long as 9 months or longer.
(3) Chlorine bleach is basically the only cleaning agent that will kill the virus, I would wipe down my shoes after anytime I am near the property of a known carrier. THIS VIRUS IS EXTREMELY HARDY
(4) Parvo can be brought home to your dog on shoes, hands and even car tires. It can live for many months outside the animal. Any areas that are thought to be contaminated with parvo should be thoroughly washed with chlorine bleach diluted 1 ounce per quart of water.
(5) DogIf you think you may have come in contact with parvovirus, a strong solution of bleach and water does kill the virus, so you can wash your shoes and clothes, even your hands with it, to reduce the risk of infecting your dog.s and puppies can contract parvo even if they never leave their yards. Parvo virus, despite what you might hear, is NOT an airborne virus. It is excreted in the feces of infected dogs, and if someone -- human, dog, bird, etc. -- steps in (or otherwise comes in contact with) the excrement, the possibility for contamination is great.

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I am praying for you and your pups and wishing you the best!

[qraven]

I do hope Bruce feels better today.

Your right on your research this virus is very bad and the vaccines are not 100%. That is what I want changed on these vaccines as there is no warning at all. Several friends have called their vets and so far all have said this sprectra is the least effective.

We have torn the carpet out of our house and will destroy the furniture that cannot be bleached, we are going to try to soak the ground with Bleach as well. I was going to throw away the toys but they will be washed in bleach. My husband has bought professional bleach (not sure what it is).

Our Biewer does have her first baby, he is 2 1/2 weeks old and just pray he will get through this without getting sick.

Sebastian our Yorker came home last night and is back to his onery self.But his children were not able to fight it off. I am going to make it a life long crusade against the drug companies to tell people that their dogs can still get Parvo.


The Spectra Vet wants to see my records and records he will get along with the vet reports.