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BLowry · 11-17-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mizzwanned

I have a question tho....because I feel bad for the puppies that aren't bought at petstores. I mean atleast they will be saved, hopefully by good ppl and taken to a vet and cured. But what happens to puppies in petstores that are not bought, like when they get older, then where do they go???

You are absolutley right! they do need to be saved but, buying from pet stores only supports puppymills. And I would like to know where the un-purchased puppies go too. very good guestion

sharong · 11-17-2006, 07:51 PM

I haven't been in a pet store that sells puppies for a very long time. I do realize where they get the pups from. I, too, have often wondered what happens to the pups that get older and don't sell. I guess they may reduce the price or something but what becomes of the ones that don't find a home. I shudder to think....

Shadow · 11-17-2006, 08:05 PM

I never said YOU did. And no we don't know where they ALL come from, now do we?
The pet store where I bought Rosie did not allow children to handle the pets, any would not allow me or any one else to put them on the floor.They disinfected a counter before I could put her down.
I have a opinion to just as you do and have a right to say mine.

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Originally Posted by BLowry

I'm sorry you took it that way...but, I didn't say all pet stores were bad... We ALL know where these poor little puppies are coming from. You usually will not find a breeder bringing their puppies to a pet store to sell...they are over handled, handled by children, are not fully vaccinated and allowed to walk on the floors and contract what ever has been brought in on peoples shoes. They are kept in cages for most of their stay in the pet store...and what happens to the ones that don't sell? We ALL know where these poor little ones come from...do the mills take them back? This was only my opinion and I didn't post this to "stir any pot" I just posted what I saw and how I feel about it...I WILL contact the MSPCA tomorrow and report them...No animal should have to live the way these poor puppies are living. It's just not fair.

YorkieShadow · 11-17-2006, 08:21 PM

Wow I have never seen a place like that. I would be upset too. If they cant keep their place clean and care for the babys they need to be closed down

All the pet stores in my area have always been clean and if one does go potty they have someone right on it. There is always full water bottles and food and toys out for them . I just went into Petland the other day first Id been in one for years and I was looking at how clean their cages was. and there was people there that was wanting to check this and that puppy out and They would get the pup out and have them set in this little blocked off spot off to the side and they kept an eye on them .and all those puppies seemed healthy and very playfull we saw 5 Yorkies that day.

Brookef18 · 11-17-2006, 09:11 PM

In the pet store here, not only are the pups clean and the cages clean, but they won't let you handle a pup unless you sanitize your hands before you handle them.
It is still very hard to see the poor babies in cages though. They rotate the pups and bring them out to play in a closed off room with a half wall but you still want to rescue them all...
My daughter goes every week with her friends to play with the pups... So she keeps me up dated on things.

Monday · 11-17-2006, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BLowry

And I would like to know where the un-purchased puppies go too. very good guestion

I was in Petco watching the dogs get groomed ... a woman was watching for her Yorkie so I decided to wait and see how the grooming came out. We started talking and she got her Yorkie (who had a beautiful silky coat but a long muzzle) ... from the same place I got my sweet dog ... she paid $400, One-fourth what I paid. She said it was because the dog was a year old. So itz called an adoption ... but the dog had NO verve ... when she put her down on the floor the dog cowered behind her legs ....
So thatz one story .... At least she was in a home with ppl who loved her.

red98vett · 11-18-2006, 07:53 AM

I'm not debating -

but PETLAND is awful here in houston. That is the last time I stepped foot in a pet store - the puppies were in such sad condition my heart broke - PETLAND is the BIGGEST BUYER in the country of puppy Mill dogs - they are the #1 supporter of mills.

IF there was ever a store that should be stopped from selling puppies - I think that's the one....it's very sad when a single chain buys thousands of puppies & keeps the mills in business.....

red98vett · 11-18-2006, 07:55 AM

and Brenda - GOOD luck with your mission - I hope someone listens and at least checks them out for the sake of the dogs...someone has to speak for them - so why not it be you ?? Go Girl and all the best -

Shadow · 11-18-2006, 08:02 AM

I have heard alot of horror stoies about petland. I agree they need to be shut down.
All I'm saying is they are not all the same as far as the care they give the animals. Alot of focus is on educating everyone about the petstore puppymills connection. I think when you look at the bigger picture, brokers are probably a higher percentage. We see that all the time also. Ads in newspapers,swap meets...etc. brokers are everywhere.
I don't not support puppymils and everyone has a right to their opinion about me for buying Rosie from a petsore, just as I have a right to do so.
We all have a right to make our own choices.

BLowry · 11-18-2006, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

and Brenda - GOOD luck with your mission - I hope someone listens and at least checks them out for the sake of the dogs...someone has to speak for them - so why not it be you ?? Go Girl and all the best -

Thanks for all YOUR support Villette!

I called this morning but, got a machine...I am going to call Monday in hopes to speak to a live person...if not I will leave a message...I'll let you all know how I make out!

ps! thanks for the response V!

red98vett · 11-18-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

I have heard alot of horror stoies about petland. I agree they need to be shut down.
All I'm saying is they are not all the same as far as the care they give the animals. Alot of focus is on educating everyone about the petstore puppymills connection. I think when you look at the bigger picture, brokers are probably a higher percentage. We see that all the time also. Ads in newspapers,swap meets...etc. brokers are everywhere.
I don't not support puppymils and everyone has a right to their opinion about me for buying Rosie from a petsore, just as I have a right to do so.
We all have a right to make our own choices.

That's what most posts about pet stores ARE trying to do. I know from my own personal standpoint I didn't know what a puppy mill even was before joining yorkie sites. There's no stigma attached for those who bought from a petstore - it's more about just getting the word out that they do buy a huge percentage of mill puppies - and if that was stopped -there wouldn't be so much mass breeding. I doubt it will ever be completely regulated - but puppy mills at their worst are HELL HOLES.

on the upside of what I said about Petland - the Petco and Petsmarts here in houston only do Adoptions - which I think is great - I haven't really read enough to know if this is all across the country - but as far as ones I go in - they seem to be on the animals side and don't actually 'sell' puppies here in houston. But Petland sure does ...the one I was in bothered me for a long time after walking out.

chachi · 11-18-2006, 08:13 AM

Petco and Petsmart nationwide only do adoptions. There is a sign on our Petsmart where they say they do that because there are so many dogs that need too be adopted in shelters and they want that to be their focus.

red98vett · 11-18-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

Petco and Petsmart nationwide only do adoptions. There is a sign on our Petsmart where they say they do that because there are so many dogs that need too be adopted in shelters and they want that to be their focus.

Thank you - That's good to know....Those are the only 2 stores I'll go in now since Petland is a danger zone for me - I used to joke with my husband I was going to chain myself to Petland after going in there - he actually believed me lol -

Bnot · 11-18-2006, 08:09 PM

I hope you DO make that call and shut that place down!

No animial should have to live that way, thats so sad. I hope they adopt those animals out at no cost!!

11-17-2006, 09:11 PM	#20
Brookef18 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cape Cod Ma Posts: 1,855	In the pet store here, not only are the pups clean and the cages clean, but they won't let you handle a pup unless you sanitize your hands before you handle them. It is still very hard to see the poor babies in cages though. They rotate the pups and bring them out to play in a closed off room with a half wall but you still want to rescue them all... My daughter goes every week with her friends to play with the pups... So she keeps me up dated on things. __________________ Brooke (Chewy's and Sadie's Mom) visit us on dogster dogster.com/dogs/700047

11-18-2006, 07:53 AM	#22
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	I'm not debating - but PETLAND is awful here in houston. That is the last time I stepped foot in a pet store - the puppies were in such sad condition my heart broke - PETLAND is the BIGGEST BUYER in the country of puppy Mill dogs - they are the #1 supporter of mills. IF there was ever a store that should be stopped from selling puppies - I think that's the one....it's very sad when a single chain buys thousands of puppies & keeps the mills in business..... __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

11-18-2006, 07:55 AM	#23
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	and Brenda - GOOD luck with your mission - I hope someone listens and at least checks them out for the sake of the dogs...someone has to speak for them - so why not it be you ?? Go Girl and all the best - __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

11-18-2006, 08:13 AM	#27
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Petco and Petsmart nationwide only do adoptions. There is a sign on our Petsmart where they say they do that because there are so many dogs that need too be adopted in shelters and they want that to be their focus. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

11-17-2006, 07:51 PM	#17
sharong Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 166	I haven't been in a pet store that sells puppies for a very long time. I do realize where they get the pups from. I, too, have often wondered what happens to the pups that get older and don't sell. I guess they may reduce the price or something but what becomes of the ones that don't find a home. I shudder to think....

11-17-2006, 08:21 PM	#19
YorkieShadow BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: USA Posts: 9,999	Wow I have never seen a place like that. I would be upset too. If they cant keep their place clean and care for the babys they need to be closed down All the pet stores in my area have always been clean and if one does go potty they have someone right on it. There is always full water bottles and food and toys out for them . I just went into Petland the other day first Id been in one for years and I was looking at how clean their cages was. and there was people there that was wanting to check this and that puppy out and They would get the pup out and have them set in this little blocked off spot off to the side and they kept an eye on them .and all those puppies seemed healthy and very playfull we saw 5 Yorkies that day.

11-18-2006, 08:02 AM	#24
Shadow No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Posts: 5,368	I have heard alot of horror stoies about petland. I agree they need to be shut down. All I'm saying is they are not all the same as far as the care they give the animals. Alot of focus is on educating everyone about the petstore puppymills connection. I think when you look at the bigger picture, brokers are probably a higher percentage. We see that all the time also. Ads in newspapers,swap meets...etc. brokers are everywhere. I don't not support puppymils and everyone has a right to their opinion about me for buying Rosie from a petsore, just as I have a right to do so. We all have a right to make our own choices.

11-18-2006, 08:09 PM	#29
Bnot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mobile AL Posts: 1,399	I hope you DO make that call and shut that place down! No animial should have to live that way, thats so sad. I hope they adopt those animals out at no cost!!