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TeddyBear · 11-05-2006, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmsmom

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publica...rt_holders.txt

Look up David and Gloria Still
They are listed as a USDA breeder. Honeslty I wouldn't buy from anyone who was a USDA breeder. They can't live in the house and usually means they have way to many dogs to begin with. JMO

Wow, I checked this out and found Shylah's breeder on there. I didn't know this. I never went to her facility. Poor baby. When I got her I wouldn't of recommended this breeder to anybody. She had little bumps and dry skin on her body. She looks great now. I definitely don't think the breeder didn't lie on her size though. She is a tiny thing.

BabyFidgette · 11-05-2006, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmsmom

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publica...rt_holders.txt

Look up David and Gloria Still
They are listed as a USDA breeder. Honeslty I wouldn't buy from anyone who was a USDA breeder. They can't live in the house and usually means they have way to many dogs to begin with. JMO

1st off, thanks for that list.
2nd, Baby's is not on there ,and she's from a petstore (lambriar kennels). I heard they were bad.

3rd, there are none in Jersey? Maybe I should do a happy dance?

Bnot · 11-05-2006, 11:51 AM

Don't you all get a lot of snow in MO? I don't know about the heat there, but I'm sure its not like it is here in Mobile, AL.

I'm sure they "cleaned the place up a bit" before putting these pics on their websites.

I saw cages that looked 6 foot up in the air attached to the buildings....hummm... how does the dog get outside from there?

Dunno, but I certainly wouldn't buy from this person. Lotta breeds too, which mean accidents can happen breeding.

I've seen worse links here, but then again, I've seen better. I've also seen worse on TV.

My biggest concern would have to be, place is that far north in the winter time. How can a dog keep warm in a cage 6+ feet off the ground?

Maybe I've always had inside dogs, and just don't know much about breeding places.

Emmsmom · 11-05-2006, 12:13 PM

Just for future references here is the link I used..

http://www.petstorecruelty.org/how%2...20breeders.htm

There are 2 links that you can use to search for a breeder.

Emmsmom · 11-05-2006, 12:17 PM

I also wanted to add that a certain "breeder's"

name isn't on the list! That is unless he is listed under a different name! There is also an email addy given to write and complain. HINT HINT!!!

luvdorkyyorkies · 11-05-2006, 12:36 PM

Im certainly not impressed. In fact picture 5 bothers the hell out of me. Looks just like rabbit cages to me, and its so small and multiple dogs in them to boot.

GOd I certainly wouldnt be proud of that.
Now some of the buildings look pretty nice and the dogs have a pretty large area and they may keep it clean, but there are SO MANY buildings, so many dogs. So you know there are tons of puppies............truly how could you socialize so many? You would have to have a ton of help and maybe they do. I sure hope they have air and heat, its hard to tell by the pictures.

YorkieDork · 11-05-2006, 07:31 PM

I like the picture of the "dog shelter." (that was sarcasm). This is definately a puppy mill. Not the worst I've seen, but yes, it is a puppy mill. I don't even see any question about it. Maybe it depends on what your definition of a puppy mill is. My definition is a business that mass produces puppies of many breeds, houses them outside in cages, and does this for profit. Furthermore, they have little to no interaction at all with thier dogs, and therefore, have no idea of the temperaments or health of the puppies they are selling.

A reputable breeder breeds one breed of dog, because they love the breed. Not for profit. Actually, they often lose money, because they spend so much on showing the parents to guarantee that is breeding material.

I would definately not buy from this puppy mill. There is absolutely no guarantee that your dog would be healthy, or non aggressive, or have behavioural issues, since it is basically housed in a chicken coop. It is funny though, that they show the pictures as if there is nothing wrong with it.

At least they are honest that they are scum. Most millers lie through their teeth about the horrid conditions their dogs have to suffer through. At least people will know not to give these people thier business.

11-05-2006, 12:13 PM	#19
Emmsmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 989	Just for future references here is the link I used.. http://www.petstorecruelty.org/how%2...20breeders.htm There are 2 links that you can use to search for a breeder. __________________ MICHELLE DIESEL "The Weasel" and little brother TUCKER

11-05-2006, 12:17 PM	#20
Emmsmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 989	I also wanted to add that a certain "breeder's" name isn't on the list! That is unless he is listed under a different name! There is also an email addy given to write and complain. HINT HINT!!! __________________ MICHELLE DIESEL "The Weasel" and little brother TUCKER

11-05-2006, 11:51 AM	#18
Bnot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mobile AL Posts: 1,399	Don't you all get a lot of snow in MO? I don't know about the heat there, but I'm sure its not like it is here in Mobile, AL. I'm sure they "cleaned the place up a bit" before putting these pics on their websites. I saw cages that looked 6 foot up in the air attached to the buildings....hummm... how does the dog get outside from there? Dunno, but I certainly wouldn't buy from this person. Lotta breeds too, which mean accidents can happen breeding. I've seen worse links here, but then again, I've seen better. I've also seen worse on TV. My biggest concern would have to be, place is that far north in the winter time. How can a dog keep warm in a cage 6+ feet off the ground? Maybe I've always had inside dogs, and just don't know much about breeding places.

11-05-2006, 12:36 PM	#21
luvdorkyyorkies BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,681	Im certainly not impressed. In fact picture 5 bothers the hell out of me. Looks just like rabbit cages to me, and its so small and multiple dogs in them to boot. GOd I certainly wouldnt be proud of that. Now some of the buildings look pretty nice and the dogs have a pretty large area and they may keep it clean, but there are SO MANY buildings, so many dogs. So you know there are tons of puppies............truly how could you socialize so many? You would have to have a ton of help and maybe they do. I sure hope they have air and heat, its hard to tell by the pictures.

11-05-2006, 07:31 PM	#22
YorkieDork Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 18	I like the picture of the "dog shelter." (that was sarcasm). This is definately a puppy mill. Not the worst I've seen, but yes, it is a puppy mill. I don't even see any question about it. Maybe it depends on what your definition of a puppy mill is. My definition is a business that mass produces puppies of many breeds, houses them outside in cages, and does this for profit. Furthermore, they have little to no interaction at all with thier dogs, and therefore, have no idea of the temperaments or health of the puppies they are selling. A reputable breeder breeds one breed of dog, because they love the breed. Not for profit. Actually, they often lose money, because they spend so much on showing the parents to guarantee that is breeding material. I would definately not buy from this puppy mill. There is absolutely no guarantee that your dog would be healthy, or non aggressive, or have behavioural issues, since it is basically housed in a chicken coop. It is funny though, that they show the pictures as if there is nothing wrong with it. At least they are honest that they are scum. Most millers lie through their teeth about the horrid conditions their dogs have to suffer through. At least people will know not to give these people thier business.