Jeff Dane Grrrrrrrr!

[Maddie-Rudy-Mom]

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Originally Posted by karen171

I just emailed the investigative depts of channels 8, 11, and 4...all Dallas area tv stations here which cover the metro area including Bonham..where the pet mill is located. I also found the email address of Becky Oliver, an investigative reporter for channel 4. This woman is awesome when it comes to investigating and following through to the end. I gave her a link to our thread so she can read what's going on. I've watched on tv where they've shut down puppy mills before. Hope it does some good...will let you know if I hear anything.

[Katys mom]

You will have to let us know if they do anything and air it. It would be great to see it.

Originally Posted by karen171

I just emailed the investigative depts of channels 8, 11, and 4...all Dallas area tv stations here which cover the metro area including Bonham..where the pet mill is located. I also found the email address of Becky Oliver, an investigative reporter for channel 4. This woman is awesome when it comes to investigating and following through to the end. I gave her a link to our thread so she can read what's going on. I've watched on tv where they've shut down puppy mills before. Hope it does some good...will let you know if I hear anything.

[karen171]

Originally Posted by Katys mom

You will have to let us know if they do anything and air it. It would be great to see it.

Oh, I sure will let you know. If anyone else would like to send a comment, here are the email addresses:

Becky.Oliver@usa.net (Channel 4)
newstips@ktvt.com (Channel 11)
Investigates@wfaa.com (Channel 8)

[BabyFidgette]

Originally Posted by ehunney

I spoke to him on the phone to inquire about his yorkie puppies. I asked him if he had any males who would be 4 lbs. fully grown (give or take a pound), that were $800-$1,100. He scoffed at me and said, "Your not going to find a yorkie anywhere that small for that price!". And I told him "Well actually, my tucker is 9 months and just barley over 3 lb.s and he should be 4 pounds fully grown, and I paid $800 for him". Then do you know what he said to me?!? "Can I buy him from you". I was so shocked it took me a minute or two too respond, and I shouted "No you cannot! Why would I sell my dog to you?" and he said "Well if you won't sell your dog to me, then why would I sell you my dog for $800-$1,100?" . What type of reasoning is that? I had to hang up the phone, before I lost my religion.

Wow! I think he gets his kicks out of p*ssing people off...I really do. This isn't the first story I heard of him being a jerk to his "customers." We need to find someone on YT that won't blow her top off even when he gets mad and says stupid things. And that person's sure NOT me!!! Or someone who would tell him "okay, you buy my dog cuz I want a new one anyway!!!!"

[JiggityJig]

Originally Posted by karen171

I just emailed the investigative depts of channels 8, 11, and 4...all Dallas area tv stations here which cover the metro area including Bonham..where the pet mill is located. I also found the email address of Becky Oliver, an investigative reporter for channel 4. This woman is awesome when it comes to investigating and following through to the end. I gave her a link to our thread so she can read what's going on. I've watched on tv where they've shut down puppy mills before. Hope it does some good...will let you know if I hear anything.

NOT at all to belittle your efforts, which are admirable, but I'd be very surprised if they found anything they considered "worthy" to report on.

#1--there is a big difference between LEGAL treatment of animals and ETHICAL treatment of animals. Seems like abuse has to be pretty blatant and extreme before you can get any kind of official interventions to take place.

and #2--someone correct me if I'm wrong (pleeeeeease!) but I don't know that we've ever had confirmation that his animals are kept in dirty conditions, or are otherwise mistreated (again....by "LEGAL" standards!)

#3---with his history of watching this board (esp. if he is getting emails or phone calls that he finds suspicious!) I'm sure he'd get out there and "clean up" long before the investigation ever took place.

---Isn't there another guy on one of the Dallas news stations....shoot, I know I've seen it a few times....who confronts local shady business people, mechanics who are overcharging, scam artist, etc. Seems like this might be a little more along those lines! Probably (I'm suspecting!) not enough blatant mistreatment documentable for them to consider this an "animal abuse" case, but, now, all the testimonies about sick pups, and the way he refuses to deal with people afterwards, etc....THAT they may consider worthy of confronting him about! I really doubt that they'd be able to shut him down, but it would HARASS him, and start getting the word out there about his reputation!!!!

[ehunney]

Originally Posted by BabyFidgette

Wow! I think he gets his kicks out of p*ssing people off...I really do. This isn't the first story I heard of him being a jerk to his "customers." We need to find someone on YT that won't blow her top off even when he gets mad and says stupid things. And that person's sure NOT me!!! Or someone who would tell him "okay, you buy my dog cuz I want a new one anyway!!!!"

LOL! i agree!

[baby03]

When I was looking for my second yorkie I contacted him via the web site! I was not impressed with his prices and he said that was just to bad. He told me he has people on his waiting list therefore was not needing my business anyway!! I got a bad vibe from the guy and top be honest I am thankful now for it!!

[JiggityJig]

HEY, has anyone ever pointed out that we (YT!) are mentioned on his site?!

I was looking at this page:

http://www.yorkiepup.com/yorkiepupfeature.html

and thinking how IRONIC it is that he's all up in arms about the vet not compensating him for the death of HIS pet, when he does the SAME THING to so many other people!!!!

....and then I was just sort of scrolling down through all the comments he had there...shoot....can't cut-n-paste for some reason...but one of them sz. something about "the girls on the yorkie board criticizing".

That HAS to be us!!!

[Peters]

that poor little dog buttons she was probably used for breeding even though obviously way too small !

[BLowry]

Originally Posted by karen171

I say good for you also! Their site says one of them lives in Bonham, Tx and the brother is in Dodd City,TX. Not sure where dodd City is but Bonham is just about 60 miles north of me. I will also contact the TV stations and see if they will investigate. This is shocking!

Great!! Maybe if we get the word out to all these TV stations they will do a story on it and SHUT THE B@$!@*#$ down!!

[BLowry]

Originally Posted by JiggityJig

HEY, has anyone ever pointed out that we (YT!) are mentioned on his site?!

I was looking at this page:

http://www.yorkiepup.com/yorkiepupfeature.html

and thinking how IRONIC it is that he's all up in arms about the vet not compensating him for the death of HIS pet, when he does the SAME THING to so many other people!!!!

....and then I was just sort of scrolling down through all the comments he had there...shoot....can't cut-n-paste for some reason...but one of them sz. something about "the girls on the yorkie board criticizing".

That HAS to be us!!!

LOL!! I would have to guess yes!! Us!

[BLowry]

Originally Posted by JiggityJig

NOT at all to belittle your efforts, which are admirable, but I'd be very surprised if they found anything they considered "worthy" to report on.

#1--there is a big difference between LEGAL treatment of animals and ETHICAL treatment of animals. Seems like abuse has to be pretty blatant and extreme before you can get any kind of official interventions to take place.

and #2--someone correct me if I'm wrong (pleeeeeease!) but I don't know that we've ever had confirmation that his animals are kept in dirty conditions, or are otherwise mistreated (again....by "LEGAL" standards!)

#3---with his history of watching this board (esp. if he is getting emails or phone calls that he finds suspicious!) I'm sure he'd get out there and "clean up" long before the investigation ever took place.

---Isn't there another guy on one of the Dallas news stations....shoot, I know I've seen it a few times....who confronts local shady business people, mechanics who are overcharging, scam artist, etc. Seems like this might be a little more along those lines! Probably (I'm suspecting!) not enough blatant mistreatment documentable for them to consider this an "animal abuse" case, but, now, all the testimonies about sick pups, and the way he refuses to deal with people afterwards, etc....THAT they may consider worthy of confronting him about! I really doubt that they'd be able to shut him down, but it would HARASS him, and start getting the word out there about his reputation!!!!

I believe one of our posters knows someone that has been to his place...(or his brothers). They didn't have anything good to say about it.

And, you are right! they probably won't do anything about it however, I have seen segments on puppymills on the news before. All we can do is get the word out there and educate people on these places so they will stop buying from them. And HOPEFULLY one day put them out of business. Personally I can't for the life of me understand why someone would pay that much for ANY animal that was advertised as not meeting AKC standard or tiny, teacup, teeney weeney etc....People need to educate themselves on this breed to know these don't exist.

[karen171]

Originally Posted by JiggityJig

NOT at all to belittle your efforts, which are admirable, but I'd be very surprised if they found anything they considered "worthy" to report on.

#1--there is a big difference between LEGAL treatment of animals and ETHICAL treatment of animals. Seems like abuse has to be pretty blatant and extreme before you can get any kind of official interventions to take place.

and #2--someone correct me if I'm wrong (pleeeeeease!) but I don't know that we've ever had confirmation that his animals are kept in dirty conditions, or are otherwise mistreated (again....by "LEGAL" standards!)

#3---with his history of watching this board (esp. if he is getting emails or phone calls that he finds suspicious!) I'm sure he'd get out there and "clean up" long before the investigation ever took place.

---Isn't there another guy on one of the Dallas news stations....shoot, I know I've seen it a few times....who confronts local shady business people, mechanics who are overcharging, scam artist, etc. Seems like this might be a little more along those lines! Probably (I'm suspecting!) not enough blatant mistreatment documentable for them to consider this an "animal abuse" case, but, now, all the testimonies about sick pups, and the way he refuses to deal with people afterwards, etc....THAT they may consider worthy of confronting him about! I really doubt that they'd be able to shut him down, but it would HARASS him, and start getting the word out there about his reputation!!!!

I know the guy you're talking about...can't think of his name either. Seems like it's a Spanish name. He does the same type of thing that Becky Oliver does...goes after anyone shady or disreputable. I don't know if my emails will help but to me it's worth a try. The only other thing I know that might help is to get up some sort of petition signed by everyone and forwarded to the tv stations. I have many times seen them doing news stories about puppy mills in the area being shut down. Afterwards, usually on the morning show, they will often have a puppy that was rescued up for adoption.

I just don't understand why any puppy mill is legal when so many countries ban them.

[BabyFidgette]

I don't care how much of a jerk he is, I feel sorry for that cute little baby Buttons.

[Rosemarie]

First I would like to say that I dont know Jeff dane but have seen his web sight.
He probably is not a very nice guy. And now that you all mention it the photos of his dogs do look sad and vacant. However, you people are like a lynch mob you feed off each other and lots of what you say is not based in reason. The way that you talk some of you sound like the man should just be taken back outside and shot!
So you dont agree with his ethics? Big deal. He seems like he is not doing anything illegal and has a right to charge whatever he wants to charge. Sending newsmen to his house and all that is just crazy.

Sorry, but I had to speak up this group has a terrible reputation for not being based on reality. I know now you will all attack me too that is your style.
Stop judging people and look at yourselfs first.