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Old 08-04-2006, 07:11 AM   #1
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Default A question about a yorkie I am looking to obtain.

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I am really wanting a second yorkie. I have located one that needs a new home. He is 3 yrs old and due to circumstances he needs to be relocated. I am very interested in him. I have gotten some info on him and one of the things his owner said was " his over all health is good however, when he gets excited, he sounds like he is hacking up a hairball" she said "he has always been this way" Opinions? Should this be a red flag? I am trying not to let my heart take over here.

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Old 08-04-2006, 07:26 AM   #2
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i hope you get him. i dont know exacty it is, but with lexi when she gets excited she like snorts.. if its the same thing, i think they all do that sometime or another...
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Collapsing trachea is what it sounds like.
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It could just be reverse sneezing which isn't anything to worry about and is fairly common in small dogs. With a collapsed trachea they sound like a goose honking. I'd just ask her to describe the sound really clearly to you. Good luck- hope this is the one!
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yes honking , thats what lexi does... not to often anymore
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My chihuahua makes this noise. She's about 8 years old and healthy as a horse so I really wouldn't worry too much. Little dogs are also closer to the ground and inhale a lot of dust etc. that big dogs aren't exposed to that's probably why so many small dogs make a honking sound but big ones don't seem to.
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Hi,

I am really wanting a second yorkie. I have located one that needs a new home. He is 3 yrs old and due to circumstances he needs to be relocated. I am very interested in him. I have gotten some info on him and one of the things his owner said was " his over all health is good however, when he gets excited, he sounds like he is hacking up a hairball" she said "he has always been this way" Opinions? Should this be a red flag? I am trying not to let my heart take over here.

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Oscar does this when he gets excited sometimes too.. something to do with the rush of Oxygen or something? It's NOT a collapsing trachea.
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Jewels does that too when she gets excited
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This describes both a collapsing trachea and reverse sneezing, so that you can distinguish between the two:

COLLAPSING TRACHEA


The trachea, also known as the windpipe, is an important structure which connects the throat to the lungs. It is composed of 35- 45 C-shaped rings of cartilage that are joined by muscle and ligaments to create a tube-like structure. It serves the purpose of directing air into the respiratory tract.

When the cartilage rings are flattened from the top to the bottom, the trachea is said to be collapsed. Rapid inhalation of air can cause the trachea to flatten and make it difficult for air to enter the lungs, much like a soda straw being drawn on too vigorously.

Why does it happen?

We do not completely understand how this condition develops. However, we know that these dogs have an abnormality in the chemical makeup of their tracheal rings. The rings loose their stiffness so they are not able to retain their circular shape. We also know that it occurs in certain breeds of dogs, notably Chihuahuas, Pomeranians, Shih Tzus, Lhasa Apsos, Toy Poodles, and Yorkshire Terriers. Because of that, it is suspected that there is a genetic factor involved.

What are the signs?
Collapsing trachea or Reverse sneezing

With reverse sneezing the pharynx (back of the throat) goes into spasms. The dog finds it difficult to draw in air through the spasms, so it stands still, stretches out her neck, and thrusts its elbows out (like a bowlegged bulldog) as it honks, wheezes, or snorts. Often eyes open wide. The spasms will stop if she swallows a couple of times.

•Close off her nostrils with your fingers so it has to breathe through its mouth for a few seconds.
•Gently rub its throat. This works for some.
•Distract it by carrying the dog outside into the fresh air.
Young puppies can reverse sneeze, but the first episode typically occurs in late adolescence. Stay calm and get it to swallow with one of the methods described above. In a few seconds to a minute, it will run off to play. Reverse sneezing is a harmless phenomenon which needs no vet consultation and no medical treatment whatsoever. It is very common in toy breeds.

Other signs, however, will help you distinguish the two conditions:
If it makes these sounds when excited or after eating or drinking, or turns her elbows outward and extends its neck and gasps inward with a rhythmic snork! snork! snork!, this is reverse sneezing.
If it breathes through the mouth sometimes, or breathes with a raspy sound, or coughs reflexively when you simply rub its throat, it could have a collapsing trachea. If the cough is one or two expulsive outward bursts (forcing air through the trachea to open it), typically with a gag or empty retch at the end, she could have a collapsing trachea.

The most common clinical sign of collapsing trachea is a chronic cough. It is often described as dry and harsh and can become quite pronounced. The term "goose honk" is often used to describe it. Coughing is often worse in the daytime and much less at night. The cough may also begin due to excitement, pressure on the trachea (from a leash), or from drinking water or eating.

How is collapsed trachea diagnosed?

Many times, very light pressure placed on the trachea during the physical examination can raise a suspicion of collapsed trachea in a small dog with a persistent dry cough. While the information gained from the physical examination is helpful, other tests are needed to confirm this condition.
X-rays of the chest can identify the trachea and its shape. However, a collapsed trachea changes its diameter during the respiratory cycle. It is usually collapsed during inhalation and normal during exhalation. Therefore, attempts to make radiographs during both phases of respiration should be made.
Endoscopy is another way to see the trachea. An endoscope is a tube that is small enough to be inserted into the trachea. By watching the trachea during inspiration and expiration, abnormal collapsing can be seen. Unfortunately, tracheal endoscopes are expensive and not available at every veterinary hospital.

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This describes both a collapsing trachea and reverse sneezing, so that you can distinguish between the two:

COLLAPSING TRACHEA


The trachea, also known as the windpipe, is an important structure which connects the throat to the lungs. It is composed of 35- 45 C-shaped rings of cartilage that are joined by muscle and ligaments to create a tube-like structure. It serves the purpose of directing air into the respiratory tract.

When the cartilage rings are flattened from the top to the bottom, the trachea is said to be collapsed. Rapid inhalation of air can cause the trachea to flatten and make it difficult for air to enter the lungs, much like a soda straw being drawn on too vigorously.

Why does it happen?

We do not completely understand how this condition develops. However, we know that these dogs have an abnormality in the chemical makeup of their tracheal rings. The rings loose their stiffness so they are not able to retain their circular shape. We also know that it occurs in certain breeds of dogs, notably Chihuahuas, Pomeranians, Shih Tzus, Lhasa Apsos, Toy Poodles, and Yorkshire Terriers. Because of that, it is suspected that there is a genetic factor involved.

What are the signs?
Collapsing trachea or Reverse sneezing

With reverse sneezing the pharynx (back of the throat) goes into spasms. The dog finds it difficult to draw in air through the spasms, so it stands still, stretches out her neck, and thrusts its elbows out (like a bowlegged bulldog) as it honks, wheezes, or snorts. Often eyes open wide. The spasms will stop if she swallows a couple of times.

•Close off her nostrils with your fingers so it has to breathe through its mouth for a few seconds.
•Gently rub its throat. This works for some.
•Distract it by carrying the dog outside into the fresh air.
Young puppies can reverse sneeze, but the first episode typically occurs in late adolescence. Stay calm and get it to swallow with one of the methods described above. In a few seconds to a minute, it will run off to play. Reverse sneezing is a harmless phenomenon which needs no vet consultation and no medical treatment whatsoever. It is very common in toy breeds.

Other signs, however, will help you distinguish the two conditions:
If it makes these sounds when excited or after eating or drinking, or turns her elbows outward and extends its neck and gasps inward with a rhythmic snork! snork! snork!, this is reverse sneezing.
If it breathes through the mouth sometimes, or breathes with a raspy sound, or coughs reflexively when you simply rub its throat, it could have a collapsing trachea. If the cough is one or two expulsive outward bursts (forcing air through the trachea to open it), typically with a gag or empty retch at the end, she could have a collapsing trachea.

The most common clinical sign of collapsing trachea is a chronic cough. It is often described as dry and harsh and can become quite pronounced. The term "goose honk" is often used to describe it. Coughing is often worse in the daytime and much less at night. The cough may also begin due to excitement, pressure on the trachea (from a leash), or from drinking water or eating.

How is collapsed trachea diagnosed?

Many times, very light pressure placed on the trachea during the physical examination can raise a suspicion of collapsed trachea in a small dog with a persistent dry cough. While the information gained from the physical examination is helpful, other tests are needed to confirm this condition.
X-rays of the chest can identify the trachea and its shape. However, a collapsed trachea changes its diameter during the respiratory cycle. It is usually collapsed during inhalation and normal during exhalation. Therefore, attempts to make radiographs during both phases of respiration should be made.
Endoscopy is another way to see the trachea. An endoscope is a tube that is small enough to be inserted into the trachea. By watching the trachea during inspiration and expiration, abnormal collapsing can be seen. Unfortunately, tracheal endoscopes are expensive and not available at every veterinary hospital.

http://www.earthsangels.com/html/coltrach.shtml
great information - I've never seen it really explained before - nice to know the signs to watch for!
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Old 08-04-2006, 06:59 PM   #11
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I've had both a toy poodle and a yorkie that had those coughing spells and both were able to live a full life. Good luck!
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It really may be what they call "reverse sneezing." I always thought it seemed more like some sort of a cough - hacking -spasm attack. But anyway, this is so common with small dogs. All three of mine do it. My little Bichon does this every night when I get home from work --- he just gets so excited and that's when it happens. It lasts about 30 seconds or so - and then it's over. It is perfectly harmless...absolutely nothing to worry about. You'll learn this (and so will your dog) after they have done it a couple hundred times.

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It probably is the reverse sneezing/snorting thing that a lot of yorkies do.. but it could also be a collapsed trachea..you might want to make sure before getting him...

One time I was at the park and this Yorkie who was all calm came up to me and noticed I was holding Princess and then suddenly he went into this huge snorting thing ( a lot louder and longer than Princess's reverse sneezing) and the owner said "oh he has a collapsed trachea and he gets that way when he is excited"...

So, I would make sure before getting him.
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I am really wanting a second yorkie. I have located one that needs a new home. He is 3 yrs old and due to circumstances he needs to be relocated. I am very interested in him. I have gotten some info on him and one of the things his owner said was " his over all health is good however, when he gets excited, he sounds like he is hacking up a hairball" she said "he has always been this way" Opinions? Should this be a red flag? I am trying not to let my heart take over here.

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Have you decided what to do yet?
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I still haven't decided. I think if it were entirely up to me I would go for it. I am still trying to convince my hubby that I NEED him

I will be sure to let everyone know the outcome!


I really, really appreciate everyone's advice and opinions! You guys are the best!

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