money for a yorkie
 

i was talking to a lady on another site about bad breeders and puppy farms and she said she thinks it should be illegal to take money for any animal ie dog pup cat kitten, she says if people breed thats up to them its there choice but why should they get paid for it? if someone can offer a good home for the dog then thats all that is importaint not the money. what do you all think? do you think people should sell yorkies? she also said an adoption fee could maybe be paid but to a rescue of that breed of dog. maybe that would be a good idea im not sure on this one still in 2 minds about it, yes no one makes the breeders breed and they say its cos they love doing it and its not about the money so why charge but the thing i would be worried about would be breeds of dog dieing out cos no one would bother breeding them and a world without yorkies:eek:

Breeders breed because it is a hobby, a very expensive hobby. If they didn't get paid for their hobby then they couldn't afford to do it. And while most say they don't do it for the money, if there were no money they probably wouldn't do it.

They don't expect to get wealthy from it and most don't make a living off of it, but I'm sure most do make a profit in the long run.

It sounds to me like this woman is wanting a free yorkie. If she just wants to pay an adoption fee to a rescue, then she should go to the rescue to get the dog.

No offense, but that makes absolutely no sense. Should a breeder get compenstated for all the things (vet bills, papers, time, etc.) that they put into each puppy?

no she wasnt looking for a dog she was just saying she thinks its wrong to take money for a dog, she said breeders say they do it for the love of doing it and its not about the money so why ask for money? she said that person makes that choice to breed that dog so they should pay for it as no one makes them breed the dog, if they lose money then dont do it.

i said but shouldnt the breeder get back what they paid and she said no why should they no one made them breed the dog, so i guess a breeder shouldnt be compenstated as it was there choice is what she was saying.

some people breed for the money they can make off of them with no consideration for the dogs and people who get them, they just want the money. which is down right wrong! others breed to improve the yorkie standards or keep them going through their generations and it costs major money to breed properly , they make very little if any profit off of puppies .many almost don't want to part with them! some people don't know anything about breeding but do it anyways because the cute little dogs sell for alot of money and so on .well some people just shouldn't breed them at all .but if nobody got money for breeding then there wouldn't be any yorkies! the puppies have to be wormed, shots ,tails ,.claws and everything they need to be healthy that costs money and when you buy from a rep. breeder that's where most of that money goes back into into ,not to mention a quality food and things to begin training already before they are sold /move to their new homes.

I have to disagree with you. Breeders should get compenstated for all the money, time, and hard work they put into breeding and raising the puppies. If breeders did not get compenstated because they chose to breed, then yorkies and the breed standard would go down hill. Look at all those excellent breeders who have standard yorkies. Yes, it is their choice to breed but f they did not get anything for the puppies, then unless they were rich, they could not breed yorkies so they would not even get to choose whether or not to breed. So the excellent show breeders and hobby breeders would not be able to breed anymore. So if they are not breeding yorkies anymore then yorkies are going to be very hard to come by and you won't find what that will fit within the standard and would have yorkies that look less and less like yorkies. It really could never work.

Perhaps if you said unreputable breeders who are only in it for the money or breeders that did not raise healthy puppies should not get any money, after all how many of us have seen unhealthy yorkies sold at petstores or auctions, then I would have to agree with you.

It's just not plausible for breeders not to charge anything. I am not a breeder, but I took in a stray pregnant cat into our house earlier this year. It turned out she had lymphoma, and we took good care of her and the babies. For all her tests, spaying, the babies' shots and tests we have spent well over 1500 dollars. The technicians at the vet's office asked us if we got a second job to take care of the cat and the kittens. We gave the kittens away for free because we have found good homes, and honestly nobody wants to pay money for domestic short hair cats. But, the next time I see a pregant cat, I am calling humane society.
The work that went into it was very enjoyable, except force feeding the momma cat during the last stages of her life (we had her on chemotherapy asap but her lymphoma was advanced). We loved seeing her give birth, and we loved watching the kittens grow. I did not even mind paying all that money very much because we loved the momma cat, it was a one time thing, and we have enough money. But, it is definitely not something I would do intentionally as a hobby unless I had hundreds of thousands of dollars that I don't need to spend on anything.
I find it a bit disturbing to "buy," "own," "sell" animals because I believe their lives are just as priceless as mine, but that's on a spiritual level, not a financial one.

I don't want anyone flipping out on me, but....if that were the case, then everything would be free. If this thinking could be reality, the following wouldn't sound so crazy:

No one HAS to raise cows for beef....they choose to, so all beef should be free.

Tires would be free because a person chose to work a a tire plant.

The doctor chose to go to school for all of those years, he should do the surgery for free because he cares about people.

I could go on and on, but it would be senseless. If you have a Yorkie, you chose to do so...as with anything you don't HAVE to have' but want to have, it is a luxury. Once you do get one though you feel like it is a "necessity". We all know they don't come in a box of Cracker Jacks:D .

Oh boy, I am saying all of this in a joking sort of way....hope no one gets upset:eek:

Excellent post. :thumbup: I agree with you 100%.

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Excellent point and I completely agree and I think many others will too.:)

I don't think ANY dogs should be free. I think we live in a disposable world and a LOT of people only value things they pay for. If dogs were free, every jerk that saw one that he thought was cute, would get it until it was no longer cute or bothered them and then they would dispose of it, ie..drop it off in some neighborhood, take it to the pound or what have you and then just get another "cute" one that caught their eye. There are enough unwanted dogs in this world, and I think free dogs would only escalate this problem:(

if breeders didnt get paid then there would be no dogs or cats and then that means we wouldnt have are BABIES!!!!!!

It requires time, money, and effort - those things should be properly compensated. And, for the breeders that are reputable and breed well-socialized, proper looking (standard) puppies with a good temperament... well, they are helping the breed as a whole.

Oh, and I totally agree with what LuvtheCooper said... dogs shouldn't be free because if they were openly available, people who want them just for the novelty would get them without properly taking care of them and giving them the life they deserve.

Love the post:thumbup: :thumbup: especially about the beef

Sure you can say that noone made breeders do what they do, but on the same note noone made you own a dog. If you don't like what you have to do to get a dog then don't get one. Besides if you really feel that breeders shouldn't be getting paid then don't support them, don't buy their dogs, you can go to the pound and get one. Call your vet, a lot of times they have them for free, check the paper also free dogs in there. Find someone who lives in the country they always have stray dogs coming up, free free free.

I'm not on a don't buy a dog, save a dog kick. I'm just sayin that if you don't like paying for one, you really don't have to. Also I'm saying "you" in a general term I'm not meaning "you" as anyone in particular.

Nobody attack me I'm just stating my opinion.

I agree with you on a certain level, because I know alot say I do it for the love of the yorkies but in reality they know they do it for a little bit of extra spending cash. Especailly, the ones that sell theirs for over $2,000 it does not cost that much for quality dog food, shots, dewormer, tail docked, and dew claws, so those ones can say all they want they do it for the love of the puppies buy they do it for the money as well.

But, giving them away for free is ridiculous do you know how many yorkies that will be in the pound. Most people will not take care of them the way we take care of ours. I once asked a breeder why she sold her's for soo much and she told me if someone is willing to pay that much for a dog then she knows they are going to take well care of them.

I think they should sell them for how much they put into them and maybe a $100 or $200 more to put back into breeding. With this being said yorkies should not be sold for more than $500, $600 the most. You can sell a healthy puppy for that amount and get a little extra to put back into the breed.

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Wonderful Point and Post! :thumbup: :thumbup: Great Job! :D

I agree with this to a certain extent too. I don't really like the idea of people making a living off of breeding dogs. I mean a little extra cash or a little bit to better their breeding program is one thing but charging and arm and a leg...
I know someone who is wanting to breed b/c "think of all the easy money you'd make". This is what I don't like.

Exactly, charging some money is okay but an arm and a leg :thumbdown

I totally understand how you feel and I agree with some of your post, but I respectfully disagree with one part ... "the ones that sell theirs for over $2,000 it does not cost that much for quality dog food, shots, dewormer, tail docked, and dew claws."

This is how I look at breeding (from my limited knowledge), a breeder gets no perks (except of course all the puppy kisses LOLOL))!!! And when I say perks, I will use my job as an example. If I work overtime through my lunch hour, my firm buys my lunch. If I work late, my firm buys my dinner AND they send me home in a company car!! I get paid overtime for every minute ... even if I only work 15 minutes overtime.

No one MAKES me go to work ... I do it because I want to. So should I not be paid because I choose to work? Should I not be compensated for working all day and should I not be compensated for working overtime?

So now if a breeder (for example) has 5 pups and the mama is sick and can't nurse the pups, then you have to bottle feed them all day long, plus you must wake up at intervals all night long to bottle feed FIVE pups!! Who pays the breeder for overtime?? Who buys then lunch and dinner? Who sends them off to the vet in a company car? It all comes out of the breeders pocket ... even friggin gas to get back and forth to the vet!!

So yes, I feel that breeders should be compensated for their TIME as well as everything else that goes into breeding.

A breeder I knew recently had a pup who eye was scratched and had to be rushed to the emergency vet ON A HOLIDAY!!! The vet bill was AMAZINGLY HIGH!! So that too should account for the price of the pup ... the breeder should not sell a pup and then be set back financially ... because if all breeders did that, no one would breed and we would not have these little angels that we all love so much!! :D

Again, all this is just my opinion so please no yelling. :D

Okay, but do you go to work because you have to i.e. pay bills, have luxuries, etc... Or do you go because you are bored and you just LOVE WORK???? Some people say they breed because they love the breed and they do not do it for money those are the people that I'm talking about.

And as for going to the vet on holiday's because a pup scratched his eye then that puppy should cost more because the breeder put more into that puppy. Or a litter that needed to be bottle fed then charge a little more for that litter, but then if they are doing it for the love then they shouldn't mind having to stay up all night doing that. In my opinion not all puppies should cost an arm and a leg not always do things happen to all puppies. All I'm saying is WHATEVER is put into a puppy the breeder should get back plus a tad bit extra to put back into breeding if they are doing it out of love. Otherwise they need to state they are doing it to make a little extra money on the side. Now don't forget I'm talking about the breeders that charge over $2000 for a puppy.

No hard feelings these are all our personal feeling:D

I agree with you

I have read a ton of these threads about the price of puppies over the last few days and I have bit my tongue.... But something just hit me.....

I have not read a single line about the expense of showing.... Maintaining coats, traveling to shows, entry fees, and all of the crazy costs involved with finishing champion dogs...

True quality specimens of our breed...

The kind of dogs you want puppies from, the kind of puppies I would gladly pay 2000, 2500 and even 3000 for.... Money that I know would go back into a sound and selective breeding program that is focused on the progression and betterment of our breed....

Or I guess I could find a cheep Yorkie... Maybe even a free one from someone who "just likes to breed" and make puppies for the fun of it!!!:p And watch our beloved breed take a serious nosedive into a mine field of genetic faults and crippling defects.... hmmmmm

I say Fork over the cash and Support those who are Bettering our Breed!

I agree with you 100%. I have suffered with 2 of my dogs that I bought from a mom and pop pet store.

My Maltese suffered from severe luxated patella that required immediate surgery. That defect could have been avoided if he was bred properly. Also my Yorkie who passed away (RIP Katie) was diagnosed with kidney disease, another defect that could have been avoided it she was bred correctly. So I would rather pay a wonderful breeders more money then buy a puppy who will cost me more money and HEART ACHE in the long run. I've suffered enough with my babies ... I can't take anymore. It's too hard to cope once it's all over. :(

No hard feelings at all. :p We can agree to disagree. :p

Well for me personally, I don\'t "have" to work -- my hubby makes enough to support us both and still have extra money left over. But I work because I like what I do and I like making money for me. :p But that is just my personal situation. However, just because I don\'t "need" the money, doesn\'t mean I should no be duly compensated just as the same person who does work because they truly need the money.

I don\'t think it\'s right to expect breeders not to charge anything for their puppies. Alot of time and money goes into breeding, especially with vet bills.

Well i plan to breed and get money for them. How ever. I have promised two pups free and the rest will be at resondable price. for us poor folks can have one of these loveable dogs. People want more $$$$$$$$$$. than the dog weighs. lol.. I am just say I know alot of good people that want an yorkie but can not pay $800.00 or more for a dog.