Is this a real breeder?

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by topknot

I had never seen or heard of a chocolate, liver, or blue puppy back in the 80's and 90's when I showed. Not until now, when I started back and started to research and learned what was happening to others. I know some people love the other colors - not standard. But IMO I prefer staying within the standard.

Here is a link form TYCA on this issue:
http://ytca.org/frame_index2.html Go to frequently asked questions.

Actually the odd or wrong colours have existed all this time. No it is not the result of bad breeding they do pop up although rarely as most breeders of the past have been careful if any did show up in a litter, to be sure they were spayed/neutered and not used in a breeding program.
Yorkies weren't meant to come in all sorts of colours. The colours you normally see can be various shades from a black and gold or tan to a light silver and gold. The ideal of course, is the breed standard colour which reputable breeders strive for.
The difference now compared to when you were in Yorkies is that some have decided these miscolourings are rare and therefore of increased value, some will actually try to breed for them. In reality they are totally wrong colouring that still exists in the breed and can show up and should be avoided not just because of the colour but often a 'rare' colouring carries a health problem along with the genes that causes these rare colours..

[topknot]

I think the reason I did not see or hear of any other color than standard back then is bacause we were so careful back then to keep to the standard. We spent hours upon hours researching and looking at other litters and yorkies it was a true science then that most of us practiced. Yes, I am sure that wrong or odd colors did happen back then, just not like they do today. I see many, not all, breeders like the one mentioned on this post that do not research and learn about the breed before breeding.
I think that what has happened today is that many/some do not study the standard or learn all they can about their own yorkies (lines or quality/faults)
and just want to have pups, whether it is the "lets have cute puppies" symdrom or "lets make some money."
When a breed becomes popular - the standard tends to decline for awhile, such as what happened to toy poodles and some other breeds as well in the past. It takes many years to recover.

Noticed I said most or many - which can be some, but not all. I congratulate all the ones that do their homework before breeding. And are careful and selective. Only with these type of breeders can our breed standard improve and continue.

[topknot]

I hate to say this but believe it to be true that - back in the past - if any undesirable pups were born breeders would put them down soon after birth (that day). Maybe this is why we did not see any.

[lilbumbleybees]

I wouldn't trust them at all

[chachi]

Originally Posted by topknot

I hate to say this but believe it to be true that - back in the past - if any undesirable pups were born breeders would put them down soon after birth (that day). Maybe this is why we did not see any.

AW that makes me sad

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by Lorraine

I would run the other way pretty fast and forget getting one there. The Continental Kennel Club registry is not recognized by the AKC. If the parents are not AKC registered, then the pup cannot be AKC registered. If you are buying a purebred pup and paying the price for a purebred, it should be registered with a registry that will register Purebred dogs only with generations of registered dogs which the AKC does in the US and the Canadian Kennel Club does in Canada.

See she told me that CKC U could get them AKC Registered! But I don't know for mine are both AKC...I know nothing about CKC either way do U know or was she just lying to me?? Isn't that sad!
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Sir. Galahad Riothamus:
http://www.dogster.com/?348737
Sir. Lancelot Avalon:
http://www.dogster.com/?348775
Princess Isabella Guinevere I:
http://www.dogster.com/?348779
Princess Arimathea Ambrosius:
http://www.dogster.com/?348789

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

Sounds like this person has not done any research to produce quality Yorkies or any breed for that matter. I know you're just looking at the "competition", but that would be a good example of how not to answer questions. I know you have more knowledge than she does and would answer the questions more appropriately. As a breeder you should have the knowledge to educate your buyers on the standards and health concerns.

Your right! She is another of the reasons I'm trying to learn so much on my babies or any Yorkees...So I know when someone is just doing this to make money! This is so so sad...I don't see how people can do this and sleep @ night! Here I'm just starting to try to find good homes for mine and I cry when I talk about it..It's heart breaking to hear this from people!
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Sir. Galahad Riothamus:
http://www.dogster.com/?348737
Sir. Lancelot Avalon:
http://www.dogster.com/?348775
Princess Isabella Guinevere I:
http://www.dogster.com/?348779
Princess Arimathea Ambrosius:
http://www.dogster.com/?348789

[TeddyandTiffy]

Originally Posted by peanut

First of all I am not a breeder but there isn't such a thing as a teacup, then most good breeders don't let there puppies go until they are 12 weeks old, and then if she doesn't know what she feeds them, I would look somewhere else....but I am sure others YT will have a bunch of comments for you...Good Luck!

That really upset me that she couldn't even think of the name of their food!
Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Sir. Galahad Riothamus:
http://www.dogster.com/?348737
Sir. Lancelot Avalon:
http://www.dogster.com/?348775
Princess Isabella Guinevere I:
http://www.dogster.com/?348779
Princess Arimathea Ambrosius:
http://www.dogster.com/?348789

[yougetthesmiles]

I would be aware of her! I guess if 7lbs is a teacup then I have a teaspoon lol

[TeddyandTiffy]

Thank U everyone for U're thoughts...U know she really gets to me...I mean I'm by NO means a prefect Yorkee lady!!! But I'm learning and wanting to better myslef and my babies! I keep thinking about us talking and she said this too! "If U ever seen a Real Yorkee then U'd know!" (She was talking about hers being the perfect Yorkee's) I ask her what she ment by that? She said that well some Yorkees have big noses but a real Yorkee doesn't...I said okay...Well I know Tiffanie is a real Yorkee and AKC too and she has I think a bigger nose then Teddy...Cause she's bigger I think?? I don't know and U I looked in the paper today & she still has her ad in there! Sad...I don't want the money as much as I want good homes for mine!! To me that means more! Thanks So Very Much & Hugs, Lee & Babies
Tiffanie "Tiffy" Ranae:
http://www.dogster.com/?316369
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt:
http://www.dogster.com/?316383
Sir. Galahad Riothamus:
http://www.dogster.com/?348737
Sir. Lancelot Avalon:
http://www.dogster.com/?348775
Princess Isabella Guinevere I:
http://www.dogster.com/?348779
Princess Arimathea Ambrosius:
http://www.dogster.com/?348789

[Lorraine]

Originally Posted by TeddyandTiffy

See she told me that CKC U could get them AKC Registered! But I don't know for mine are both AKC...I know nothing about CKC either way do U know or was she just lying to me?? Isn't that sad!

If she is in the US then she is talking about CKC Continental Kennel Club not the Canadian one that is the CKC, Canadian Kennel Club. A dog or puppy registered Canadian Kennel Club can be registered with the AMerican kennel Club. I have some of mine registered AKC as well as my Canadian Kennel Club.
If you reside in the US you can buy a dog from Canada from a reputable breeder and it will be Canadian Kennel Club registered. You can submit the required paperwork including the Canadian Kennel Club registration and get the dog or puppy AKC registered.
A litter born in the US must be AKC registered it cannot be registered Canadian Kennel Club without the AKC registration being done first including the individual dog registrations.
But Continental Kennel Club is not recognized by AKC or Canadian Kennel Club either. Neither will register a puppy or dog that is only Continental Kennel Club registered it would have to be AKC or Canadian Kennel club registered