I totally agree with you. I also think that sometimes people start a thread that is filled with emotions that they have, and people reply and the person gets even more upset, and the people that have posted meant no harm at all (sorry very long run-on sentence). I understand people's threads can be construed as negative, but I feel the same sshaw does I really don't get bothered by it. I think if someone posts a question/concern on here they should be open to constructive criticism. Me personally I would want someone to tell me how they feel as opposed to sugar coating it, but I grew up with 3 older brothers so I had no choice;)

I totally agree with you on that!!

well here is what I do. I look at all the opinions and advice. Any advice I want to use I will, any I dont want to use, to me can be thrown in the garbage as I want anyone to do to mine altho I dont give advice usually because I'm new to yorkies myself. Sometimes I do tell what I've tried to see if it worked but if you notice I dont advise anyone else to do it. Besides, to me I am my own person, I make my own decisions no matter what advice is given as most everyone else does. But I rarely if ever have ask for anyones advice on Kizzys health issues as that is what I pay a vet for. He is the doctor, nobody on here is a doctor that I've heard of so far, but correct me if I'm wrong. If I had a serious problem, I might tell about it after its over and tell the results. But first and foremost my vet will tell me what to do in any illnesses concerning Kizzy. But i've learned a lot of things people believe in on here. Some I agree with , some I don't. But to me, my decisions about what I do or dont do or buy or dont buy are mine to make and I am the one who makes them. I have ask questions about size, color, coats and maybe talked about potty training, but I dont recall asking for anyones advice on what to do about potty training her and I wont. I have done pretty good with her on my own and I feel that any normal human being that has a puppy and has ever had one or not should have a vet to ask health questions about their pet or if its a big health issue, take it to your vet and not people on a forum. Some advice is helpful and some I just take with a grain of salt, but in the end, I'll always do what I think is best for my puppy. I always wanted a small little lap dog and now I have one even tho she has grown a bit bigger than what i thought i was getting and I have ask questions about sizes here. But I will tell you this. People on here will give their honest opinions I think whether you agree or not. If you dont want opinions, then dont ask. So I dont ask any personal health opinions because I dont want peoples opinions from here on that. I only want a certified Vet. As I would do with my own health, I wouldnt consult a forum on the computer if I thought I had a health issue I didnt understand or know what to do about. I would consult my doctor, tho I might discuss it with a personal friend or family member, it would be someone I know personally but in the end even then it wouldnt be for their opinions. Opinions are like AH's. Everybody has one. So if people dont want to hear bad opinions or ones that says what they dont want to hear, then dont post it here. and Yep, I'm one of those that wanted a 3 or 4 lb little dog and still would love to have one but to me, that is my business what I buy. Its my money and nobody on this forum is gonna buy it for me. If I want to buy a puppy from a backyard breeder I also will do that as I know for a fact that some people that raise some puppies do look out for their health altho I know some dont. I would just have to see the environment they are in. I would never, no way, no how ever buy a puppy thru the internet. I want to see exactly what i'm getting (in person) before I buy it, not a picture of it.
So I'll close my fingers now and if anyone wants to criticize what I think, then so be it.

You know what else I just realized about people's responses? A lot of people don't read the entire thread before posting. I know I'm guily of that too! I try to read all the posts, but sometimes they are so long. :p The original poster might say something, and recant or explain differently in a later post. But if a YTer didn't read the whole thread, confusion and arguments start to occur. Then the original poster gets defensive (I'm guilty of that too), and there you go. A YT Brall! LOL :animal36

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Just forgot to say, If I wanted to breed one I would, if I didnt want to I would have the spade and neuter done as I will be having Kizzy spade next month. I know nothing about breeding and I do feel that one should have a knowledge of it or have someone with them that does to help them or get the knowledge before trying it. But everybody had to start somewhere and find out for themselves if they are into breeding or not. But I feel they need to study up on it and make sure they understand it before they start and know what their getting themselves into as well as the puppy.

Like in all groups of people you will come across every type of personality.
I take the good and leave the rest. So far in my experience it has been 99 percent good :)

Okay, but you didn't say what I said. I didn't say that there is always a right answer or a wrong answer. I said that there are right answers and wrong answers, and went on to say that one has to sort things out as best they can.

Some things are a matter of taste. I may not like your taste in some area, but that certainly doesn't make me right and you wrong. Or vice versa. Other things are a matter of fact. No matter how strongly I believe 2+2=3, I'm still wrong. In the area of raising and training dogs (as reluctant as I am to concede that a Yorkie is a dog), there are things that are a matter of taste, there are things that vary from one Yorkie to another because of the differences in the individual's personality or physiology, and there are things that are facts.

As I said initially, you'll just have to sort it out the best you can. People are going to disagree. Be discerning. Listen to all the input. Ultimately, the person who brought the problem to the forum will have to make up their own mind and live with the consequences. The rest of us don't have to live with the decision - which may, in fact, be right or may be wrong. It happens. People make mistakes. I've made mistakes. Anyone who admits to making a mistake acknowledges that there was a right answer and I didn't take it. I took the wrong answer.

Okay...whatever. Different choice of words. But I still disagree, and that is my choice. Give me an example where where there IS a right choice, and I bet someone will disagree, but they might not be "brave" enough to say it. It happens all the time. Sorry...it's human nature.

I don't mind people disagreeing with me. And - at times - thoughtful responses have caused me to change mind about different things.

I'd rather people come aboard and say what they think - (and be willing to listen and consider other options) - than reply with something like -- "I know I may just be thin skinned, but I feel that you are all mean and picking on me, and I'm going to quit this forum and never never post here again!!!"

Sometimes - posts do get "jumped on a little" and a lot of people do disagree with some things. But - what the heck! In this instance, instead of feeling sorry for yourself, I think people should just gracefully bow out and go onto a new topic and enjoy themselves. This is not a "life or death" forum. It's just a bunch of people who have and love their Yorkies and like to ask questions and share information.

I think there is very little contention and few arguments considering the number of people who visit here.

**** I appreciate people identifying themselves as being a new poster. And - I wish that young people would let us know that they are very young also. I would certainly respond to a child differently than I would to an old bat Yorkie owner like myself who has owned dogs for a hundred years. Wouldn't you?


We should say what we think - be respectful of other people's ideas - and not get upset when people disagree with us.

Carol Jean

First of all I may not agree with every one on this sight, but I do respect all opinions and right to them. Bottom Line.... We are all here for the love and well being of our yorkies... We are here to help one another and we shouldn't lose sight of that.

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I have to jump into this posting.....due to the fact that.....I am the only female in my house of 4 guys......I do not get a lot of "female" persuasion and communication......so I come here. Plus, I have been looking and learning for several months.

I have found that just like in face to face communications, my lips move faster than my brain....but, I make a conscientious effort to reread every post that I put on. To make sure that it "sounds" right and not to "direct" as I have been told that I was.....something about being raised in the "Midwest" makes me "direct" I find that a wonderful attibute. Some people don't.....so what.

But, I do like to talk, being in sales as long as I have....you have to talk and LISTEN, same way here.....no different. Has anyone offended me, or snapped at one of my responses??? Nope, not yet, so I must be being awfully careful to be considerate. But, as I have stated in the past, I love women that have an opinion. Ok. I could get into the equal rights thing too....lol.

I do not want everyone to think like me, or act like me....or whatever. I just want to have other women, to listen and think I have some wise things to say. It just so happens that I use YT as my stress reliever too.

So, OP, don't dispair. Jump right in, have an opinion, take some of it with a grain of salt, if you know what I mean! And realize we were all young, new and inexperienced with many things in life....this is not the first time that moving into "new territory" will make you a little nervous.....but, DO NOT let it temper your responses.

The best word I can think of is "tact". I try to use it, so as to say what I want and not hurt anyone in the process....


See, I told you.....I love to talk!!!!:grin2: :grin2:

[QUOTE=Bailey's Peeps]Okay, but you didn't say what I said. I didn't say that there is always a right answer or a wrong answer. I said that there are right answers and wrong answers, and went on to say that one has to sort things out as best they can.

This is a perfect example of how one can read something into what another person said, that was not intended.

Did the party of the first part actually mean what the party of the second part thought she meant, but then recanted when she came under attack? Or was the party of the second part wrong in assumning that the party of the first part meant something that she didn't say. Did she put words into her thought that were not even there.

Thank you ladies for giving us that example. LOL

I appreciate all these posts and examples. I agree that sometimes it can be scary to post because you never know what you'll get in response, but I value opinions here or I wouldn't ask questions. I have learned so much from this forum, even in posts that I perceive as rude. I try not to take it personally when it happens to me, and I do try my best to always reply in a respectful and nice way to people.

I hope that you newbies just jump right in. Please don't be afraid or you might be missing out on some great friendships. I enjoy the ones I have made here very much!!

I have been attacked several times, it has caused me to choose my words more carefully, but I don't think we should hve to put disclaimers on every post, and we wouldn't have to if everyone tried to give the poster the benefit of the doubt.

If something can be taken two ways then assume that it is the kinder of the two, or ask for clarification.

There are those who have been maliciously vicious, but I've noticed they don't seem to hang around too long.

I have also gotten a tougher skin, and I have learned to defend myself if someone insists on accusing me of something that I didn't mean and I have tried to explain or clarify what I said.

There are a couple of things that I will not post about due to the fact that I know what the popular opinion is and I'd rather not go there. So on those issues I will contact people whom I know won't judge me or are or those that are on my same thought pattern on those issues.

I've also noticed that those people who have very strong opinions and do not mind sharing them don't necessarily have a very big following.