Limited Registration?

[MyTrixie143]

Ok I have another question. Is there a way where you can make a legal binding contract that states that you have until a certain date to neuter/spay the puppy or else the breeder has the right to take back the puppy?? I would hate to neuter/spay a pup before it left to go to his/her forever home, they are just too young and too little. My vets don't even like to do it with this breed until they are 6 months old. I also agree that while you screen you potential owners, there are some that are very very good manipulators. They have done it a hundered times and know what to do and what to say and how not to slip up, I have seen these people and they are pros at what they do. I just would not feel comfortable letting a puppy go to someone I thought I could trust who said they would not breed the pup, anything can happen and change and I could not live with myself if a puppy ended up in a puppy mill or other horrible situation. So would the legally binding contract be another possibility other than spaying/neutering them before the puppies leave to go to their new homes?

[Lacy's Mom]

Originally Posted by Olivier

I never let a puppy go with limited registration , they are neutered or spayed before leaving my home .

I have been doing a lot of research on this subject and it does seem to be safe, as long as the vet is experienced in pediatric sterilizations. At what age do you perform the procedure? and at what weight? Have you had any fatalities? Any female incontinence? Have you noticed your pups getting taller that were pediatric spayed?

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by gypsyqueen

While it is nice to think care of the animal is the reason lets get real;
the breeder does not want you to breed their line. By keeping market small it keeps prices up. The problem is people that want to breed will buy from someone else and breed anyway, so it does not solve anything you cant make an person who thinks he can make money breeding animals change his mind because the breeder said they should not. I have also seen show kennels that let there breeder animals go to hell this is a fact. I have a yorkie a maltese a chiuhahua and a sharpei all females no limited regs. and I spayed them because I have enough sense to know that if you do it right you dont make money, its stressfull ,you have to live with a lot of mess. But we live in AMERICA you can choose not to purchase from them which i do, but these breeders usually have beautiful animals and it cost a lot to produce these type of dogs.

You have "hit the nail on the head" as my parents used to say.

[gypsyqueen]

By all means I dont wish to offend breeders or buyers because there are alot of wonderful people on both ends but limited regs. will only make a small dent it wont cure this problem we need goverment help and monitoring on all breeds

[YorkieRose]

I do not care if people breed from my lines...infact I have no problem placing a breed potential with a reputable person with a good stud..but if I place it as a pet, I want it to be a pet..it may be a great dog for breeding, but it is my choice if it is bred. All of this is discussed before hand and agreed upon. I, in turn abided by these rules when inquring about a puppy...I was/am up front and tell the person I breed..and they have the choice to place the pup with me or not.

I hope my post did not offend you..it was the results of so many miserable situations..you get to a point where you can stop it by S/N.

[Emmsmom]

That being said ...doesn't the value of a dog who is fixed go down somewhat? My thing is that if I am going to pay a ton for a puppy then I would like to have the choice to have him or her fixed. Now if it is in a contract that they must be fixed then shouldn't the price be somewhat lower?

Michelle

[YorkieRose]

I see what you are saying...since you want the choice to S/N, then you would deal with a breeder who gives that option. It would be pointless to continue to inquire about a pup from a breeder who reguires S/N.

I do not find the price any different, infact to take it one step further, people are willing to pay the same for a pet puppy with or without papers..and more for a pet that is already altered if it is a year or less. Most people say they only want a pet and papers are not something they are interested in..so they tell me to keep them..why give AKC money for a pet? I return the papers to AKC with a letter saying the new owner did not want to register the pup.

I had Emme and Kate to the vets for rabies a few weeks ago..a woman asked to buy one or both..she offered me $1500 each..I moved to another seat when she upped it to $2000 each, she was pushy and wanted to take Emee out of my arms..I peferred not to sell these girls...she said all breeders have a price. I told her I would be happy to talk about a girl pup I have coming in Sept..no papers and a spay agreement with our vet..she was okay with it...if she wasn't, then I would wait for the next person who is okay with it..there is no rush!

[Olivier]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

I have been doing a lot of research on this subject and it does seem to be safe, as long as the vet is experienced in pediatric sterilizations. At what age do you perform the procedure? and at what weight? Have you had any fatalities? Any female incontinence? Have you noticed your pups getting taller that were pediatric spayed?

My puppies are spayed or neutered at six months old .

[Lacy's Mom]

Originally Posted by Olivier

My puppies are spayed or neutered at six months old .

Oh, so you keep your puppies for a while before they go to new homes. Do they adapt well at that age?

[SnowWa]

My Bichon had a limited registration and I was asked to get him neutered.
I was told that he was "Pet Quality" and needed to be neutered before I purchased him. He has a cute little "corkscrew tail" --- a serous fault in a Bichon, and for this reason shouldn't be bred and certainly can't be shown -- but he is absolutely perfect in every other respect. This same lady also had show quality pups that could be bred - but they were quite a bit more expensive -- and I was looking for a pet.


My Yorkie has an unlimited registration. He will soon be neutered, and I decided not to waste my money registering him. He is a couple pounds above standard and shouldn't be bred and can't be shown. Otherwise, he is absolutely perfect in every way and is a darling pet. We didn't know what he would weigh full grown (his littermates are about 6 pounds).

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I would think that if a reputable breeder has a pup that has a known fault that precludes it from being shown and should keep it from being bred, she would be irresponsible if she didn't give it a limited registration.

This is what I thought limited registrations were all about..

And she should hope and require that this pup be neutered or spayed.

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Carol Jean

[Gazou]

I really don't believe in limited registration . The only was that a breeder can be sure that a puppy will not be bred is to have them spayed or neutered early . Several peoples buy pups as pets and later decided to have puppies from them,
even if they promised or signed contracts .

[Olivier]

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom

Oh, so you keep your puppies for a while before they go to new homes. Do they adapt well at that age?

I never heard a complaint from the new parents of my puppies . They are very proud to have puppies that are pee pad trained , know the basic commands .
A puppy will adapt easily if he or she is comfortable in a new home .