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Rae Rae 06-24-2006 07:20 AM

I think smaller yorkies are just as cute, but I wouldn't buy one intentionally.
When I got my pup I was curious to know how big he'll be, but that didn't make any difference in my decision to get him.

How come when some people buy a yorkie they are soo worried about how big/small it's going to be full grown? and they have such a huge preference for it? If someone is buying it to show or breed I can understand, but if it's just a pet does it really matter the size of it? Also, I mean they are small enough dogs as it is, so I really don't understand the hype of them having to be extra small.

michiko 06-24-2006 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hickey007
Well I know exactly what you are talking about. When I started looking for a yorkie at the end of last year I knew nothing about “teacups”(the term being bad or health or anything) then I found YT well I have to say it scared me to death to even think about getting a smaller yorkie. When I started checking around I would specifically say I don’t want a smaller one. My point is that until I did even further research I really thought all small yorkies were bad, health wise. Since then, mainly because of people with smaller yorkies speaking up, I’ve realized that you can have a smaller yorkie that is healthy. I do think that sometimes, not all threads, but some do end up making it sound like all small yorkies are bad and that wanting one makes you bad as well.

I would like to get another yorkie in a few years and I do not want it to be smaller but only for the reason that I want it to be about the same size as Reagan. That’s the only reason, but if I can have reasons for wanting a specific size yorkie why can’t others, no matter what size they want. Michiko, even if you didn’t get your pup because of the size it shouldn’t matter if that were the reason.

Well-said! :)

LuvMySissy 06-24-2006 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rae Rae
I think smaller yorkies are just as cute, but I wouldn't buy one intentionally.
When I got my pup I was curious to know how big he'll be, but that didn't make any difference in my decision to get him.

How come when some people buy a yorkie they are soo worried about how big/small it's going to be full grown? and they have such a huge preference for it? If someone is buying it to show or breed I can understand, but if it's just a pet does it really matter the size of it? Also, I mean they are small enough dogs as it is, so I really don't understand the hype of them having to be extra small.

I can only speak for myself, but I can tell you what my thinking was in wanting a smaller yorkie. I had been planning to get another animal from the time my Calico cat who I had for 13 years passed away. However, my daughter was living at home and has a Ragdoll cat as well. If you know Ragdolls, they are very large and very playful. So, I agreed to wait to get another animal till my daughter moved out. Well, in 3 years I had plenty to time to think about what I really wanted. I am a cat lover and always have been, though I like dogs also. Growing up we always had dogs and always had bigger dogs. I never even liked the little dogs.

But as the time grew for my daughter to move out and since I am at home a lot, I determined what I really wanted was a companion, not just a pet. And I wanted that companion to be a lap animal, and be that way basically on my command. That is what led me from wanting a cat to a little dog. Yorkies are just so cute, that is why I chose the breed. I know that Yorkies are not "big dogs" at standard size. But there is definitely a difference in the size of a 3 lb. dog versus a 7 lb. dog. That is why I wanted a smaller Yorkie. Very happily she is healthy (because I didn't know any of the health risks when I got her) and she loves to be my little lap companion.

That may sound really stupid and selfish in my reasoning, but in a nutshell that is why I looked for a smaller Yorkie. I have been very happy with my decision. I love Sissy so much that when our other dog, Sheena passes away, I will get another Yorkie. I don't know that I will specifically look for a tiny, but I will definitely ask the size of the parents, since Sissy is 4 lbs I don't necessarily want a frisky puppy to be much bigger and pouncing on her (cause I know how she plays).

SnowWa 06-24-2006 09:20 AM

For me - there are two instances where having a tiny little Yorkie are justified.

1) If two standard sized Yorkies have a small pup -- this happens (as well - they may have a larger than average pup). And, these little pups - all sizes deserve to go to wonderful, loving homes. No problem here.

2) I know from reading many posts that a lot of people get their first Yorkie without really knowing a lot about Yorkie sizes (I did!) -- and they want a small little dog - so they buy from a breeder who has very tiny little pups. These purchases are totally innocent. I'm sure a lot of this happens, and I certainly can't critize a person for this.

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What I don't approve of - and I know a lot of people share my opinion - is breeders deliberately breeding the little dogs down to smaller and smaller sizes for $$$$. It is well known that usually - smaller Yorkies cost more.
There are many sites on the Internet featuring 2 - 2 1/2 - and 3 pounds puppies for sales - costing anywhere from $2500 to $10,000. And - some even have smaller Yorkies than these for sale.

Secondly - if people are knowledgeable about Yorkies and their sizes and know this shameful type of breeding is being done - but, still go out and buy one of these tiny tiny little puppies, I feel they are only contributing to the success and pocketbooks of these unethical breeders......

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I know a lot of these tiny little guys are healthy - but, what a shame, when a nice person unknowingly buy ones of these little pups - and pays a fortune for it - only to learn later that it isn't healthy and needs a lot of medical care all its life - or loses it for some reason related to its small fragile size. This, to me, is the essence of the crime that is being committed. My heart really goes out to anyone who has gone through this.

NOTE: I'd be willing to bet that the very tiny little pups that come from standard-sized parents are much healthier than the little guys that come from parents who have been deliberately bred down to these smaller sizes. For people who want very small Yorkies - the ones with standard sized parents are probably the best and most healthy to have......and, many of these little pups come from very knowledgeable, ethical breeders.

(Like the puppymills - if people didn't buy from these heartless breeders, they would soon be out of business.)


Carol Jean

Mitzis Mom 06-24-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by michiko
Ah good idea. Oh my my!! I never thought I have to cook meat again.. I eat seafood and vegetable.. but not other kinds of meat. But I will cook for this little girl! :)

Ohhh... seafood and fish is very healthy for a dog too!!! Just make sure she gets also some veggies like peas, carrots, broccoli, apple etc. and some rice (preferably brown rice) and oatmeal but no onions or garlic. I think she could just eat what you eat without any hot spices and only very little salt (they also need some salt!) :aimeeyork

chachi 06-24-2006 11:31 AM

The next yorkie I get will be a smaller one. I have already found the breeder she breeds for smaller yorkies but they arent super tiny they are in the 3 to 4 lb range. I dont see anything wrong with wanting a smaller yorkie.

Bailey's Peeps 06-24-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvMySissy
. . . I determined what I really wanted was a companion, not just a pet. And I wanted that companion to be a lap animal, and be that way basically on my command. . . . That may sound really stupid and selfish in my reasoning, but in a nutshell that is why I looked for a smaller Yorkie. . .

If it's stupid and selfish, then nearly every owner of a Yorkie is stupid and selfish. After we have them for a while, we love them for the personality they show. But when we get them in the first place (except for a few really wonderful people that rescue distressed Yorkies without giving a thought to size, health or emotional problems) we get Yorkies because they're little and they're adorable. Someone that wants a lap dog isn't going to get a lab - although I know a few labs that think they're lap dogs :) . Then it just comes down to your own feelings about how big a dog can be and still be a lap dog.

Rae Rae 06-25-2006 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnowWa
For me - there are two instances where having a tiny little Yorkie are justified.

1) If two standard sized Yorkies have a small pup -- this happens (as well - they may have a larger than average pup). And, these little pups - all sizes deserve to go to wonderful, loving homes. No problem here.

2) I know from reading many posts that a lot of people get their first Yorkie without really knowing a lot about Yorkie sizes (I did!) -- and they want a small little dog - so they buy from a breeder who has very tiny little pups. These purchases are totally innocent. I'm sure a lot of this happens, and I certainly can't critize a person for this.

--------

What I don't approve of - and I know a lot of people share my opinion - is breeders deliberately breeding the little dogs down to smaller and smaller sizes for $$$$. It is well known that usually - smaller Yorkies cost more.
There are many sites on the Internet featuring 2 - 2 1/2 - and 3 pounds puppies for sales - costing anywhere from $2500 to $10,000. And - some even have smaller Yorkies than these for sale.

Secondly - if people are knowledgeable about Yorkies and their sizes and know this shameful type of breeding is being done - but, still go out and buy one of these tiny tiny little puppies, I feel they are only contributing to the success and pocketbooks of these unethical breeders......

---------

I know a lot of these tiny little guys are healthy - but, what a shame, when a nice person unknowingly buy ones of these little pups - and pays a fortune for it - only to learn later that it isn't healthy and needs a lot of medical care all its life - or loses it for some reason related to its small fragile size. This, to me, is the essence of the crime that is being committed. My heart really goes out to anyone who has gone through this.

NOTE: I'd be willing to bet that the very tiny little pups that come from standard-sized parents are much healthier than the little guys that come from parents who have been deliberately bred down to these smaller sizes. For people who want very small Yorkies - the ones with standard sized parents are probably the best and most healthy to have......and, many of these little pups come from very knowledgeable, ethical breeders.

(Like the puppymills - if people didn't buy from these heartless breeders, they would soon be out of business.)


Carol Jean


I agree with everything you said, sometimes their just going to be smaller and that can't be helped. But when people go and purposely breed and purchase smaller ones just because their "teacup" sized, well I just don't understand that. To me, and this is just my opinion, but I think their doing that just as a fashion accessory.

kellyandjohn 06-26-2006 11:41 AM

in a comment earlier in this thread about people being insensitive to the owner of a yorkie under 2 lbs (that would be me)that died suddenly. i thought all of the comments were very nice. i was not offended at all and most were very helpful. but the whole reason i was asking about teacups and yorkies under 2lbs was not because i was looking for another one of that size, i was just confused because i never had heard of such.i kinda was looking for something for someone to tell me. that she could have 2 lbs and lived without being sick. i will get another one not that small but i honestly did buy sally because she was that small, but i never knew of these risks.i thoght she was just the cutest i had ever seen completely perfect. i bought her for every little small part of her from her little button nose to her little tiny toes. and i thought she was healthy or i wouldn't have got her. that's why i said next time i will do research before choosing another yorki. and i am very glad that i had the time to spend with her, i will never be sorry i bought her. she was tiny but she was a very big little thing just in a small body.
i can't honestly say enough that most of the people on here are very kind and helpful.
thanks again kelly

hooliacasa 06-26-2006 04:29 PM

Wow, what a great thread - I am moved by all of the emotions here and its nice to read from so many NICE people - I don't know how else to explain it. Makes me very happy that I can be a small part of this group of people here.:p

autism mommy 06-26-2006 08:40 PM

I dont know whats happened before becouse im new here but Dont worry I wont judge you. I know how that is from another site not here. i have a yorkie X poodle mix and some people dont like me for it but oh well. now matter if its a mut,designer pup,or a tiny one makes no matter to me.

Mitzis Mom 06-27-2006 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by michiko
Ya I am feeling so much pain that I have to squeeze Haruka's little body!! :D :D :D She is small but very comfy to snuggle together :)

Hi michiko! Here's a little philosophy which might help you to cope with things like that:

Rex Barker here again with "Accept or Don't Accept", sent to us by Kishor D from Southern India.

Please submit your favorite inspirational stories, quotes or pieces to RexBarker@HumorNetwork.com

A tale is told of an Indian prince and spiritual leader. This short story illustrates that every one of us has the choice whether or not to take personal offence from another person's behavior.

It is said that on an occasion when he was teaching a group of people, he found himself on the receiving end of a fierce outburst of abuse from a bystander, who was for some reason very angry.

He listened patiently while the stranger vented his rage, and then the prince said to the group and to the stranger, "If someone gives a gift to another person, who then chooses to decline it, tell me, who would then own the gift? The giver or the person who refuses to accept the gift?"

"The giver," said the group after a little thought. "Any fool can see that," added the angry stranger.

"Then it follows, does it not," he said, "Whenever a person tries to abuse us, or to unload their anger on us, we can each choose to decline or to accept the abuse; whether to make it ours or not. By our personal response to the abuse from another, we can choose who owns and keeps the bad feelings.

This is Rex Barker, CS (Candidly Speaking) reminding you not all "Gifts" are good. Whether you accept something or not determines whether it becomes part of you, and it is easier to let negativity bounce off of you than stay part of you.

:thumbup:

amspoelstra 06-27-2006 03:46 PM

I'm totally with you! Sometimes I don't understand why people get so upset over size; it's a personal preference, and sometimes it's just a matter of which pup will fit best in your family, regardless of its size. And then when you have the dog, it's like having a kid; if you have a small baby, you like small babies, if you have a large baby, you think the fat rolls on babies are cute.

Don't let it bother you! You know the reason you have your dog and that is all that matters!:aimeeyork


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