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eensor 04-09-2005 05:33 AM

I have an Idea....
 
Last time I checked, there were over 1700 members on YT. I've been thinking about some of the posts that some members have put on here about not being able to afford vet bills for their sick babies. I know some of you will say they should have thought of that before they got a dog, but there are others who may want to help.

My idea is to have as many members who would like to participate donate at least $5.00. Then if we have a fund for emergencies, we could administer funds to a dog in need. i thought the people who administered the fund would need vet documentation of medical need to release funds.

Please add your thoughts or ideas to this post....I'm just wondering if this is a possibility.

Elizabeth

nemom 04-09-2005 06:04 AM

I think it's a great idea and I would contribute

chachi 04-09-2005 06:24 AM

Thats a really great idea. Especially for these people who unfortunately get a liver shunt diagnosis which is very expensive. I would be willing to donate more than once if needed to keep the fund replenished if thats what you decide to do. Again, great idea.

eensor 04-09-2005 06:39 AM

We could also periodically have an online auction or rummage sale to add to the fund. I would be willing to open a bank account for the fund with $50.00.

chachi 04-09-2005 07:04 AM

Thats a good idea. I would donate that much also. I think if you got plenty of uses to donate the fund would replenish itself pretty easily.

eensor 04-09-2005 07:09 AM

Help me get others interested! I don't want all the responsilbility of decideing who gets medical funds. Would a couple of y'all be on that committee?

chachi 04-09-2005 07:17 AM

I will just tell me what you want me to do.

chachi 04-09-2005 07:19 AM

Oh and do you think this needs to go through admin. first. They could even maybe set up a section for it if need be.

eensor 04-09-2005 07:23 AM

Good idea! I'll post to Admin about it right now. As for helping decide who gets funding, I suppose we got pm about that. I do think we would need vetrinarian documentation to release funds, as well as demonstration of need. I'd like to keep this simple, though. Perhaps just a phone call to the members vet for verification of medical problem?

chachi 04-09-2005 07:26 AM

That seems simple enough for me. I think if it is a fund anyone could use if they are in need the more donations you will have hopefully.

eensor 04-09-2005 07:27 AM

I agree. Some of us have the ability to pay for vet bills on our own though. I suppose those who could afford the bills themselves would be honest and not use the fund, do you think?

chachi 04-09-2005 07:32 AM

Yes I believe so. There are alot of people on here with limited funds like college students and this may be of great help.

jpb1971 04-09-2005 08:09 AM

:thumbup: This is a really good idea. I will be more than happy to donate for those in need. My only concern is that some may take advantage of this genrosity. But an excellent idea.

aimee 04-09-2005 08:47 AM

I agree that this is an excellent idea, and would happily contribute when my bank account would allow.

I also think it would be wise to protect ourselves. Some of you may remember awhile back where a woman came on here claiming her Yorkie had died and she didn't have enough money for a new one. A very nice member here offered her a puppy, and come to find out, this lady wasn't being honest and was out to cause trouble.

I think a good idea would be to call the vet, but also to confirm the vets' credentials if that it at all possible. I hate to be so cynical, but I would hate even more for the nice members here to be taken advantage of for their wonderful generosity.

eensor 04-09-2005 08:50 AM

I agree that we must be careful of dishonest people to do this. I'm open to all ideas for verifying true needs of recipients. Let me know your thoughts! Thanks!

chachi 04-09-2005 08:51 AM

This must have happened before I joined. Wow!!! I didn't realize!!! Yep I agree then it needs to be alittle more difficult to just get that money. That must have just rocked this board. I don't understand how someone could do that.

aimee 04-09-2005 08:54 AM

Yeah, it was pretty bad. We were all upset when we realized what had happened, but of course, admin took good care of us. She had come on under a couple of different names, making innappropriate comments. It happens from time to time, you just have to be careful who you trust on the internet. Unfortunately, not everyone is honest.

eensor 04-09-2005 08:59 AM

I think it would be a good idea if a couple of us could interview the applicant via conference call or with a verifiable online application that required their vet's credentials and contact information. We could also have the applicant include references that we could contact. If a person is on the up and up and really needs help for their baby, they wouldn't mind doing this.

Also, we would probably only pay a portion of the vet bill and our payment could go directly to the vet. Comments?

chachi 04-09-2005 09:03 AM

I wonder if maybe there needs to be a rule that its not a newbie. I am not saying ther is problems with all newbies at all. But sometimes theres some real controversial posts. Sometimes you never see them post again. I don't know eensors gonna have to think on this now since she is wanting to start the fund.

chachi 04-09-2005 09:07 AM

Eensor - That sound good. What do you think though about newbies? There are alot of people who post once in the for sale category and you never see them post again.

aimee 04-09-2005 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eensor
I think it would be a good idea if a couple of us could interview the applicant via conference call or with a verifiable online application that required their vet's credentials and contact information. We could also have the applicant include references that we could contact. If a person is on the up and up and really needs help for their baby, they wouldn't mind doing this.

Also, we would probably only pay a portion of the vet bill and our payment could go directly to the vet. Comments?

I agree, those are all very good ideas.

maiamae 04-09-2005 10:00 AM

Being a "newbie" I hope you guys don't mind me putting my 2 cents in. :)

I agree with not helping newbie's because you haven't gotten to know them as of yet. But even the people that are on here all of the time can be dishonest also. And who is going to take on the responsibility of receiving, depositing, and withdrawling the money? That is a huge responsibility! :eek:

My suggestion would be define a "newbie". How long to you have to be a member or how many posts do you have to have. If you say 50 posts or more, than someone can quickly go to the gallery and post 50 comments and there you go, 50 posts. Just an example.

If I were organizing this I would say to receive money you have to be 1. A donater of $50.00 or more. 2. A member for at least 6 months. 3. Started and participated in at least 25 different discussions. Then the members all vote on who gets the money by doing the research of the requesting member.

One surgery can cost thousands. So you may end of helping only one person.

Just my thoughts. I hope you guys don't mind.

PinkMartini 04-09-2005 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maiamae
If I were organizing this I would say to receive money you have to be 1. A donater of $50.00 or more. 2. A member for at least 6 months. 3. Started and participated in at least 25 different discussions. Then the members all vote on who gets the money by doing the research of the requesting member.

As much as I understand and agree to a certain extent, what would the purpose of having the person receive the $$$$ be required to donate $50 first? If a person needs $$$ to help pay for vet costs, I hardly doubt they have an extra $50 to give away.... Or am I missing the point :confused:

YorkieRose 04-09-2005 10:19 AM

donations
 
Many groups do this..I would suggest the funds be sent directly to the vet. I can donate to an auction..got lots of Yorkei stuff.
Good luck

chachi 04-09-2005 10:20 AM

I don't know how were gonna do that. There could be someone whose dog is sick and they just happen to run accross this forum. It seems like you would wanna include them. Eensors application process sounds good. But I don't know Aimme really gives you something to think about.

maiamae 04-09-2005 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PinkMartini
As much as I understand and agree to a certain extent, what would the purpose of having the person receive the $$$$ be required to donate $50 first? If a person needs $$$ to help pay for vet costs, I hardly doubt they have an extra $50 to give away.... Or am I missing the point :confused:


I was looking at it more like an insurance policy. Consider this, how does $50 sound compared to a $2000.00 surgery? You wouldn't have to send $50 all at once. It could be $5.00 a month if you wanted. I guess all I was saying is I would be willing to trust someone a little more that was a donater as well. The $50 was just a number I through out. The coordinater can make it any dollar amount she wants.

jennifermcb 04-09-2005 10:57 AM

That is a great idea!

The lady who posted recently about being unable to afford liver shunt surgery really got to me. I would love to help out in some way, and this seems like a great way to contribute.

My Yorkie will possibly be having this surgery, but I have the funds available to pay for it. I would be devastated if I didn't have the means to take care of my precious animal.

Ringo 04-09-2005 12:00 PM

Great idea! The money definitely needs to go to the vet. Why not help the lady that you just posted about with the yorkie with the liver shunt disorder? I mean we know she doesn't have any alterior motives. Well, we don't know FOR CERTAIN....but the odds are she's being honest. Just a thought. I'm not the richest person in the world, but I don't mind putting in $5 or $10 here and there. It's unbelievable how much these surgeries costs...don't even get me started on that. If I were a vet...I don't think I could turn down a dog in need.

SoCalyorkiLvr 04-09-2005 12:25 PM

EEnsor-

I think your idea is a terrific one. When that couple took Geanalyn back to the pet store for example I wanted to go work out a deal with he pet store to buy her back after she was healthy. I know that would just be putting $ in the pet stores pockets, but that story really touched me and I wanted to follow up and see what happened to little Geanalyn.

I know your idea is a little different, and I am sure if we do our research, get Admin involved and set it up properly it can work and we can prevent people from taking unfair advantage.

I would definitely contribute and can even draft any legal documents you may need drafted free of charge.

eensor 04-09-2005 12:42 PM

Y'all are wonderful people to want to help out liike this! This warms my heart! As for newbies...isn't our goal to help the animals? Would it really make a difference if the person was a newbie or not? As long as we get verification from the vet and an application with references, I would be willing to help a Yorkie who needs surgery.

I don't mind handling the bank account and distributing funds. If you all want me to, I will furnish references to my attest to my character as well! I know that I am just an online entity out there to you and I would be glad to give you all my phone number, address, and references you could contact.

Somone posted that we may be only able to help one dog. Well, one is better than none! Also, when funds get low, we can have an online auction, ask for more donations, have an online rummage sale, etc. I would like for this to be an ongoing project.

The free legal would be great if you think its necessary, Geanalynn. Also, I hope that 2 or 3 of you would join me in the decision making process when screening applicants. Three heads are better than one!


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