Once again...people don't read entire posts! Am I surprised? NOPE! Did I say I could be wrong? Yes. Please don't respond to me in the future without reading my entire post. I try to take everyone's info into consideration, and don't appreciate being "scolded" by YT people. I am not your child nor your dog. That's what's wrong with the computer...people can't just read and post opinions without getting on other people's cases. Well I'll tell you what...I have sat back and watched it happen to myself and YT friends. And, I'm not going to shut up anymore. If you don't like me and my opinions, that's fine. Don't respond to them. Easy as that. Some people have nothing better to do than to sit around on the computer and bash other people. Get over yourself. You are not perfect, and neither am I.

thanks for the infor. I will check it out.

I like this! :p A LOT!!!

i don't know if you got to read my response, but i wonder, seeing you with your yorkie, doesn't it imply to the other individual that dogs are allowed? and most dog owners i know, whether they be big dogs or small, would much rather have their dog with them while they casually shopped rather than stuck in a car why they shopped hurriedly. the other person may not have known that you were sneaking your yorkie into the store.

and just for the record, if you jumped off a bridge, i wouldn't followed. but if you were in line for free ice cream, i'd be right there in line as well. :p

wow there are alot of opinions on here...
mine is more of a comment to add more than my opinion
i am cautious with my little one as to where i take her when we leave the house... i would be less apt to take her to stores etc only in concern for her safety and the "what if" - for example we were in petsmart yesterday and there was woman with a wolf as the store personnal pointed out to me
i named her snickers because it was cute not becuase i wanted her to be a snack.. but because pets are allowed that means all pets are allowed... so i took that chance in bringing her... but its my preference to not take her places not a requirement i just know that if they let her in it opens the door for all kinds of pets that i may or may not want her around (much larger aggressive dogs/sick pets etc)

Well since I am the woman that "got all bent out of shape over the service dog with disabled persons" I thought I should respond. Until you have the honor of caring for or raising a child or adult with a disability don't tell me or anyone else for that matter to not get all defensive. That is my job as a mother, to defend my child. MOST kids and many of adults are just plain mean when it comes to people with disabilities and it is my right and job as a parent/mother to educate the ignorant people out there regarding my daughter's disabilities. I was only stating in my post that not all people that need service dogs look disabled and not all dogs need a vest. Maybe something to think about the next time you go to the store and see someone with a dog that you are not sure about. JMHO.

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Baileys mom..well put girl..i totally agree and amend you for it..

I think everyone has a right to their own opinion..what bothers me is to hear (read) people talk so highly of their dogs yet they bash lil kids in a supermarket or drooling in a high chair. For the love of pete these are little children you are talking against. I'm sorry but I hope to never run across a little baby (dirty or not) and think thats disgusting..I am extremely particular about my kids and cleanliness as well as with my animals..but i've never ran across a pet or a child and been grossed out because that animal or child is filthy..it isn't their fault it's the parents and the owners. Have some compassion for human kind.
Also i'm not bashing any of you i'm sure you didn't mean it to sound like that .

Personally, bringing your dog into a store where I am is no biggie. I don't think it's right, but I also don't really care. I don't think that this topic is worth going to war over. We should have some sort of drinking fest when this is all over.

I think it is a lot like the other small little rule breaks that others have mentioned, like speeding or sneaking candy into a movie theatre. We have all done it, but the point of "we all break rules" does not justify at all the breaking of another rule. Maybe we'll get in trouble for it. Maybe we won't. But we can't argue about it on principle that we aren't doing anything that can hurt somebody else. I speed about 7 mph over the speed limit (sorta the gold standard), but if a cop stops me, I don't start arguing with him about how its late and there are no cars out and in this case it is okay. If I was caught by a movie theatre trying to sneak in candy and got kicked out, I'd probably be muttering about how I can't afford 10 dollar popcorn as I left, but I couldn't argue with them on principle about their right to make the rules. I don't have a right to speed, and I don't have a right to sneak things into someone's place of business, and I don't have a right to take my dog into places that they aren't allowed.

In a practical sense, chances are that you speeding or you sneaking your dog into stores will never ever hurt anyone or cause someone to be really uncomfortable. But if it ever does, or a store gets in trouble because of you, you have to be the one to say "yes, it was my fault," because you should accept the responsibility of your own actions.

Take care, everyone.

Dan

ps-try not to let yourselves get combative, ladies. take a deep breath and go play with your dog, because nothing gets accomplished once we just start going after each other, especially about tangents

Thank you for that and I am crying as I write this. Happy tears because you understand what I am trying to say (and hopefuly others do too) and sad tears that I had to make such a post. I don't want to get off topic here, I just wanted to say thank you!

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Baileys..bless your heart. I know it's hard and you and I"m sorry for you and your daughter that you have to battle so much. God bless you and your daughter.

Ladies I'm sorry if i said anything to offend..I came here to learn and hopefully maybe help someone along the way. I don't want to fight with anyone and I hope no one wants to fight with me.

I don't think the girl that started this forum meant for it to get so way out of hand. I think she just needed to vent to us. I hope everyone has a nice day.

Some people really are dumb! Just trying to be a smart a$s

You know what? I don't think you have to apologize. You didn't do anything wrong by posting your opinions. :) It's how people try to criticize others on here that's the problem. It wasn't your fault that I got upset/riled up/etc., it's how people respond to me that gets annoying. I'm sorry If I upset you! :notworthy Forgive me? :D

Very cute response!! :Puppy2:

Dan, Perfect!

I don't think anyone has been bashed here (at least not personally). If we start a controversial thread - or if we even post our opinions on these threads - we are going to get a lot of responses back that just flat out don't agree with us.

BabyFiggette seems to be on one side of this issue with a lot of people agreeing with her - I hold the opposite opinion and a lot of people feel as I do.

Please - when threads get this long - we can't expect people to read every word. I have noticed a few responders misinterpreting a few statements I made also. At this point, I would expect this.

People should feel free to disagree with one another - and will occasionally misinterpret what others have said. This happens - especially on such long threads.

It has been interesting hearing everyone's thoughts on this issue. And, I would suspect that in the end, many of us are not 100% on one side or 100% on the other.

I have actually found myself becoming less stringent on this issue, in some ways, because of the things that many of you have said. I admit there are emergencies, and times when we have to take our puppys in a public building with us. And, I have learned from some of you that a lot of businesses don't care if you bring your puppy in with you.

It's been interesting!!! I hope no one really feels offended. This is a public forum - made up of a lot of different people with a lot of different ideas. We all love our little Yorkies (and other pets) and are here to share experiences, ideas, and opinions. I, for one, occasionally modify or change my opinion on an issue because of what some of the rest of you say here on YT. W have a lot of intelligent and good people here - and everyone's opinion counts!


Carol Jean

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would any of you visit a pet boutique that carried all the little stuff we enjoy so much, clothing, leads, bows, bags, baked goods, all of these things set up in a way that you can come in and sit and talk with other pet owners, maybe have some coffe and a baked pet treat. basically, just hang out with your pet in a cozy atmosphere. kinda like most pet boutiques but a little different.
just wondering, i have seen a few boutiques but especially here not many, one within 100 miles. i am thinking of doing something like this, with a little twist on it.....thoughts would be helpful.

I would think a business like this would flourish and be exceptional! I know if we had one like you are talking about in my area Id visit all the time. (And go broke, LOL)

I agree with you and I feel again I need to remind everyone again that there are such things as nonvisable disabilities. As I stated eariler in this thread, I have a nonvisual disability. I am training moose to be my servce dog but if she and I walked into say walmart I would be subjected to questions until I inform them she is used as a service dog.

This was my first post on this thread
"Just my little two cents....service dogs are not just seeing eye dogs. and I'm sure you all know that but just wanted to say it. I am in the process of moose becoming a service dog for me, but my problem is not a seen disablity and I have been warned by other service dog owners to be ready to justify. Most people only think seeing eye dogs and that's it no other type. We are having issues in north florida from businesses saying no to service dogs that are not seeing eye dogs, so I always like to make it known that there is a broad spectrum of service animals. "

Oh, I forgot I will contact the ones that were interested in how Moose's service dog training is going by PM.

Michelle

Carol Jean,

To be perfectly honest (and I hope this doesn't sound mean, b/c it's not meant to be) I really don't care who's on my side. I don't need people to be on my side to feel secure in my opinions. And another thing is that people should really read a person's post in depth before they start agreeing or disagreeing so things don't get misinterpreted. I don't agree that it's "okay" to misinterpret b/c the thread is long. A person should not reply to something w/o reading something fully. I read your post twice to make sure I didn't miss anything. :) I still hold to my belief that some people want to start controversy. Believe me, I don't...but if someone tries to make me feel wrong for stating an opinion, I get on the defensive side...as I do in real life. I am so opened to hear everyone's side and appreciate it. But when people don't appreciate mine it get's annoying. I think some people feel that it's okay to be mean on purpose because we don't know each other. I don't feel that way.
Oh, and as you said you feel like you are less stringent, I feel that way too. It's called reading and learning from other's posts. And I am thankful for YT for allowing me the opportunity to learn more. :thumbup:

BabyFidgette -

QUOTING YOU -- To be perfectly honest (and I hope this doesn't sound mean, b/c it's not meant to be) I really don't care who's on my side. I don't need people to be on my side to feel secure in my opinions.
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I totally agree with you. Everyone has the right to voice their own opinion - and to have their opinion in the first place.

And -- we all tend to try and change other people's opinions when they don't agree with us. This is just human nature - and is very okay.

We never need to be rude - what we need are good arguments to support our own opinions. And the good sense to know that differences of opinion will going to continue to exist.

Good luck! Carol Jean

Good, friends? ;) Not like we weren't before!