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Brandi_Bailee · 03-25-2005, 11:34 AM

I come here a lot but dont post much but I was reading this and first I want to say I am very happy she is doing better.
I was looking at my calendar and you said you bought her on the 6th, then 9 days later took her to the first vet, wich would be the 15th. then onnthe 23rd you found out she had Parvo. That is 17 days after you broought her home from the breeder and 11 days after you took her to the first vet. The incubation time is 7-10. Have you thought that maybe she may have gotten it from the vets office of the first vet you took her to. You may be able to do something about it because she wasnt properlly imunized but if you dont have a piece of paper or maybe the classified add if it says they have thier shots But thats kinda reaching too because they arent fully protected even with imunizations until after thier 3rd set. Good luck and I am so glad she is doing better. She will be so happy to be back home.

Mydogkelsey · 03-25-2005, 05:18 PM

Yes i do realize everything you told me. The classified add doenst say anything about shots.. but when i went to her house to look at her she said to pick up the papers at a vet she gave me a free examination voucher to. A lot of nonsense...but she lied about the shots and paperwork..there is NONE. And she basically wound up telling me on the phone when i told her about kelsey having parvo, that she gave her own shots to her and that she could give me the vile and serial #. But there is still no proof of deworming and other shots and a healthy OK from a vet.

whispersmom2 · 03-25-2005, 05:41 PM

I do so hope your baby is totally mended!! And, we all make mistakes but also, we all can learn by others mistakes. So, please do not take anything that I say as a personal attack on you or your dear little baby.
There is another avenue you can pursue. RARELY, (key word here is "rarely") are just 1 component of the vaccine given to the puppy after the initial parvo vaccine, frequently Neo-par is used,. The vaccines contain several other disease preventatives. So, you can have your puppy's antidoby levels checked for Distemper, parainfluenze, adenovirus 1&2, these are other components of the "puppy shot" and the puppy should have antibodies in their blood for/against these diseases IF they were given their puppy shots.
if the puppy does NOT have these antibodies, either the shot was NOT given to either the puppy or the mom OR they were given too early and the baby's
immune syatem did NOT respond properly and manufacture antibodies.
I do not want to sound like a smart-ass or put anybody down, but you can find the info on the internet to help you in providing the best health for your baby. I rarely breed but I do keep up-to-date with aspects of Yorkie puppy care and I grieve every time I hear of such an incident that could have so easily been prevented. We owe any baby we help come into this world because breeding is such a responsibility.
Please give your baby hugs and kisses from me and my critters. Best wishes....

Mydogkelsey · 03-25-2005, 07:21 PM

Aww your such a sweet heart..thanks!

feminvstr · 03-25-2005, 09:47 PM

I would suggest have a titer test to see if any vaccines were given, this test shows the levels in the immune system, proving he/she was or was not vaccinated as the breeder stated. Since it works effectively checking the need of annual shots, I would think it would show the levels if true.

I posted information about the test below.

Titer test:
Some dog owners, aware that there are dozens of vaccines available, are concerned that they would need to order titer tests for each vaccine. Actually, measuring the titers for just two vaccines, according to Dr. Dodds, can offer the dog owner a reliable “picture” of the dog’s immunological status. Good immunity to canine parvovirus (CPV) and canine distemper virus (CDV), she says, indicates proper “markers for the competence of the dog’s immune system.” Although the laboratories will also perform vaccine titer tests for other canine diseases, such as coronavirus and Lyme, Dr. Dodds deems these tests a waste of money. Protection from coronavirus, Dr. Dodds explains, depends on the current state of health of the dog’s gastrointestinal tract, not on what’s in the dog’s blood, so serum tests are not conclusive. Lyme is regionally based and not a significant threat to the general canine population, so only dogs in a high-risk environment need titer testing for Lyme. Dr. Dodds emphasizes that titer testing is not a “guess” at immunological response in a dog; when dealing with CDV and CDP, there is absolute correlation between certain high titer values and what is frequently referred to as “protection” from the diseases in question. In this case, the animal’s owner and veterinarian can feel quite confident that the animal possesses sufficient resources for fighting off a disease challenge. When the tests reveal that the animal has borderline or low titer values, the owner and veterinarian should consider revaccinating and then testing the titers again. It may turn out that the animal simply needed a booster to stimulate a stronger immune response. Or, maybe the people involved learn that the animal lacks the ability to respond normally to vaccines, that is, by mounting a proper immune response. In this case, the owner and veterinarian have gained very valuable information about the dog’s compromised immune status – information they never would have gained by simply vaccinating and assuming the dog was “protected” as is usually the case with healthy dogs. As you can see, in reality, simply administering vaccines to dogs every year is more of a guessing game than using titer tests to learn about the dog’s immune competence. Studies worldwide support titer test results as comprehensive information about a dog’s immunological response capabilities.

Now more affordable
Because the more widely recognized benefits of titer testing have caused an increase in the number of titer tests performed at veterinary laboratories, the price is coming down and the tests are available from a wide range of providers. Veterinary laboratories offer traditional vaccine titer testing by looking at a blood sample from a dog and identifying a specific level of actual immunity in the dog. Reputable laboratories use commonly accepted immunological techniques that have been validated against original test techniques and found to be accurate. Be certain your veterinarian sends blood samples to a major professional veterinary laboratory such as Antech Diagnostics (www.antechdiagnostics.com), Idexx Laboratories (www.idexx.com), Vita-Tech Laboratories (www.vita-tech.com), or one of the major university veterinary laboratories, including Cornell, Colorado State, Michigan State, Tufts, and Texas A&M. In early spring 2002, Synbiotics Corporation, a San Diego-based manufacturer of diagnostic materials and instrumentation for the veterinary market, rolled out an innovative tool that should make titer testing even more readily available and affordable. TiterCHEKTM is the first in-office titer test licensed by the USDA for use in veterinary clinics. TiterCHEKTM tests titers for canine parvovirus and canine distemper virus, registering the degree of strength of the immune response in varying color shades. If the test results denote a weak immune response level, blood samples can be sent to a veterinary laboratory for more comprehensive testing. Dr. Dodds estimates that more than 95 percent of in-office tests will indicate a satisfactory immune response present in a dog that has received its puppy vaccinations and one-year boosters, so follow-up is rarely required. Expect to pay your veterinarian from $40 to $100 for CDV and CPV titer testing from a laboratory, and slightly less for an in-office test, for which your veterinarian must purchase the TiterCHEKTM test kit.

hope this helps

Mydogkelsey · 03-26-2005, 09:38 PM

Intresting..thanks for the info.

whispersmom2 · 03-26-2005, 09:54 PM

Yep, feminvstr, that is what I posted. We must have been posting at the same time..

rockbaker · 10-11-2006, 04:55 AM

We'll all pray for your baby........I've seen many survive parvo...make sure you disinfect your home/yard very well.

roxanne in nc

Mydogkelsey · 10-11-2006, 05:10 AM

I'm not sure if this post was directed towards me or not...

Just to let you all know my baby did survive parvo when she was almost 4 months old. It is possible to get rid of this horrible disease...Kelsey had to stay at the vet and be hospitalized for 4 days. They kept her very hydrated with IV's and it saved her life. She is now almost 2 years old and very healthy and active. Good luck to anyone going through with their puppy having Parvo, but know that it is curable and there is hope.

JCarlson2004 · 10-11-2006, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cielo

i read that Parvo takes 7-10 days from the time of exposure to begin to show symptoms and test postive for it . . .

BUT dogs that HAVE survived Parvo CAN get it again, so you should check and see if your yorkie had Parvo prior to the date you brought her home from the breeder, if so the breeder should have told you.

here are some link that i found on Parvo . . .
http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm
http://www.peteducation.com/article....&articleid=467
http://www.cah.com/dr_library/parvo.html

i hope your babi feels better soon!!!
~Cielo

Good post.

I'm sorry your little baby has parvo. I'm sure she'll be fine but I will keep her and you in my prayers.

Peters · 10-11-2006, 05:35 AM

http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm

doortego · 10-11-2006, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mydogkelsey

I'm not sure if this post was directed towards me or not...

Just to let you all know my baby did survive parvo when she was almost 4 months old. It is possible to get rid of this horrible disease...Kelsey had to stay at the vet and be hospitalized for 4 days. They kept her very hydrated with IV's and it saved her life. She is now almost 2 years old and very healthy and active. Good luck to anyone going through with their puppy having Parvo, but know that it is curable and there is hope.

Just wondered if you were able to recoup any of the vet fees from the breeder?

sweetr72 · 10-11-2006, 07:00 AM

Our whole humane society has been shut down for at least a month due to parvo...I dont take my dogs into any public places right now just in case...even the pet stores arent allowing people to hold their pets. Pretty scary disease. I lost my puppy gidget years ago to it, she was sooooooooo sick.

Dawn

luv4yorkies · 10-11-2006, 11:03 AM

Parvo can be in the air also I thought.

I hope your baby gets over it. please keep us updated.

stedmansmommy · 10-11-2006, 11:19 AM

Oh my goodness, I am so sorry to hear the bad news

When my best friend bought her Yorkie in April, she too had Parvo, and she too was almost 4 months old. Her puppy DID come to her with Parvo (she bought her from a very, very NASTY lady, unfortunately she did not know she was like this in the beginning) and our vet did not think her baby was going to make it (she had some highs, and she had ALOT of VERY BAD LOWS...), but after being in at the vet for 2 weeks, she came out just fine! Granted it messed up her coat and it is now very thin and coarse from being sick, but the important thing is that her baby is alive and well.

I will keep your little sweetie in my thoughts and Prayers. Please keep us update on how she is doing!

03-25-2005, 09:47 PM	#35
feminvstr Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,405	titer tests I would suggest have a titer test to see if any vaccines were given, this test shows the levels in the immune system, proving he/she was or was not vaccinated as the breeder stated. Since it works effectively checking the need of annual shots, I would think it would show the levels if true. I posted information about the test below. Titer test: Some dog owners, aware that there are dozens of vaccines available, are concerned that they would need to order titer tests for each vaccine. Actually, measuring the titers for just two vaccines, according to Dr. Dodds, can offer the dog owner a reliable “picture” of the dog’s immunological status. Good immunity to canine parvovirus (CPV) and canine distemper virus (CDV), she says, indicates proper “markers for the competence of the dog’s immune system.” Although the laboratories will also perform vaccine titer tests for other canine diseases, such as coronavirus and Lyme, Dr. Dodds deems these tests a waste of money. Protection from coronavirus, Dr. Dodds explains, depends on the current state of health of the dog’s gastrointestinal tract, not on what’s in the dog’s blood, so serum tests are not conclusive. Lyme is regionally based and not a significant threat to the general canine population, so only dogs in a high-risk environment need titer testing for Lyme. Dr. Dodds emphasizes that titer testing is not a “guess” at immunological response in a dog; when dealing with CDV and CDP, there is absolute correlation between certain high titer values and what is frequently referred to as “protection” from the diseases in question. In this case, the animal’s owner and veterinarian can feel quite confident that the animal possesses sufficient resources for fighting off a disease challenge. When the tests reveal that the animal has borderline or low titer values, the owner and veterinarian should consider revaccinating and then testing the titers again. It may turn out that the animal simply needed a booster to stimulate a stronger immune response. Or, maybe the people involved learn that the animal lacks the ability to respond normally to vaccines, that is, by mounting a proper immune response. In this case, the owner and veterinarian have gained very valuable information about the dog’s compromised immune status – information they never would have gained by simply vaccinating and assuming the dog was “protected” as is usually the case with healthy dogs. As you can see, in reality, simply administering vaccines to dogs every year is more of a guessing game than using titer tests to learn about the dog’s immune competence. Studies worldwide support titer test results as comprehensive information about a dog’s immunological response capabilities. Now more affordable Because the more widely recognized benefits of titer testing have caused an increase in the number of titer tests performed at veterinary laboratories, the price is coming down and the tests are available from a wide range of providers. Veterinary laboratories offer traditional vaccine titer testing by looking at a blood sample from a dog and identifying a specific level of actual immunity in the dog. Reputable laboratories use commonly accepted immunological techniques that have been validated against original test techniques and found to be accurate. Be certain your veterinarian sends blood samples to a major professional veterinary laboratory such as Antech Diagnostics (www.antechdiagnostics.com), Idexx Laboratories (www.idexx.com), Vita-Tech Laboratories (www.vita-tech.com), or one of the major university veterinary laboratories, including Cornell, Colorado State, Michigan State, Tufts, and Texas A&M. In early spring 2002, Synbiotics Corporation, a San Diego-based manufacturer of diagnostic materials and instrumentation for the veterinary market, rolled out an innovative tool that should make titer testing even more readily available and affordable. TiterCHEKTM is the first in-office titer test licensed by the USDA for use in veterinary clinics. TiterCHEKTM tests titers for canine parvovirus and canine distemper virus, registering the degree of strength of the immune response in varying color shades. If the test results denote a weak immune response level, blood samples can be sent to a veterinary laboratory for more comprehensive testing. Dr. Dodds estimates that more than 95 percent of in-office tests will indicate a satisfactory immune response present in a dog that has received its puppy vaccinations and one-year boosters, so follow-up is rarely required. Expect to pay your veterinarian from $40 to $100 for CDV and CPV titer testing from a laboratory, and slightly less for an in-office test, for which your veterinarian must purchase the TiterCHEKTM test kit. hope this helps __________________ Kimberly

10-11-2006, 04:55 AM	#38
rockbaker YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: nc Posts: 403	baby needs prayers We'll all pray for your baby........I've seen many survive parvo...make sure you disinfect your home/yard very well. roxanne in nc

10-11-2006, 05:10 AM	#39
Mydogkelsey YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl. Posts: 1,133	I'm not sure if this post was directed towards me or not... Just to let you all know my baby did survive parvo when she was almost 4 months old. It is possible to get rid of this horrible disease...Kelsey had to stay at the vet and be hospitalized for 4 days. They kept her very hydrated with IV's and it saved her life. She is now almost 2 years old and very healthy and active. Good luck to anyone going through with their puppy having Parvo, but know that it is curable and there is hope. __________________ R.I.P. Amy girl 01/06/06

10-11-2006, 05:35 AM	#41
Peters YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,225	http://www.workingdogs.com/parvofaq.htm __________________ A pet's love is true right from the start, through good times and bad, like sharing one heart.

10-11-2006, 11:19 AM	#45
stedmansmommy I Love My Lil' Punkin's Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Stedman and Tatum's World :) Posts: 15,331 Blog Entries: 5	Oh my goodness, I am so sorry to hear the bad news When my best friend bought her Yorkie in April, she too had Parvo, and she too was almost 4 months old. Her puppy DID come to her with Parvo (she bought her from a very, very NASTY lady, unfortunately she did not know she was like this in the beginning) and our vet did not think her baby was going to make it (she had some highs, and she had ALOT of VERY BAD LOWS...), but after being in at the vet for 2 weeks, she came out just fine! Granted it messed up her coat and it is now very thin and coarse from being sick, but the important thing is that her baby is alive and well. I will keep your little sweetie in my thoughts and Prayers. Please keep us update on how she is doing! __________________ Mommy Loves Stedman and Tatum! They have us wrapped around their little paws!

03-25-2005, 11:34 AM	#31
Brandi_Bailee Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 79	I come here a lot but dont post much but I was reading this and first I want to say I am very happy she is doing better. I was looking at my calendar and you said you bought her on the 6th, then 9 days later took her to the first vet, wich would be the 15th. then onnthe 23rd you found out she had Parvo. That is 17 days after you broought her home from the breeder and 11 days after you took her to the first vet. The incubation time is 7-10. Have you thought that maybe she may have gotten it from the vets office of the first vet you took her to. You may be able to do something about it because she wasnt properlly imunized but if you dont have a piece of paper or maybe the classified add if it says they have thier shots But thats kinda reaching too because they arent fully protected even with imunizations until after thier 3rd set. Good luck and I am so glad she is doing better. She will be so happy to be back home.

03-25-2005, 05:18 PM	#32
Mydogkelsey YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl. Posts: 1,133	Yes i do realize everything you told me. The classified add doenst say anything about shots.. but when i went to her house to look at her she said to pick up the papers at a vet she gave me a free examination voucher to. A lot of nonsense...but she lied about the shots and paperwork..there is NONE. And she basically wound up telling me on the phone when i told her about kelsey having parvo, that she gave her own shots to her and that she could give me the vile and serial #. But there is still no proof of deworming and other shots and a healthy OK from a vet.

03-25-2005, 05:41 PM	#33
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	I do so hope your baby is totally mended!! And, we all make mistakes but also, we all can learn by others mistakes. So, please do not take anything that I say as a personal attack on you or your dear little baby. There is another avenue you can pursue. RARELY, (key word here is "rarely") are just 1 component of the vaccine given to the puppy after the initial parvo vaccine, frequently Neo-par is used,. The vaccines contain several other disease preventatives. So, you can have your puppy's antidoby levels checked for Distemper, parainfluenze, adenovirus 1&2, these are other components of the "puppy shot" and the puppy should have antibodies in their blood for/against these diseases IF they were given their puppy shots. if the puppy does NOT have these antibodies, either the shot was NOT given to either the puppy or the mom OR they were given too early and the baby's immune syatem did NOT respond properly and manufacture antibodies. I do not want to sound like a smart-ass or put anybody down, but you can find the info on the internet to help you in providing the best health for your baby. I rarely breed but I do keep up-to-date with aspects of Yorkie puppy care and I grieve every time I hear of such an incident that could have so easily been prevented. We owe any baby we help come into this world because breeding is such a responsibility. Please give your baby hugs and kisses from me and my critters. Best wishes....

03-25-2005, 07:21 PM	#34
Mydogkelsey YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl. Posts: 1,133	Aww your such a sweet heart..thanks!

03-26-2005, 09:38 PM	#36
Mydogkelsey YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl. Posts: 1,133	Intresting..thanks for the info.

03-26-2005, 09:54 PM	#37
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	Yep, feminvstr, that is what I posted. We must have been posting at the same time..

10-11-2006, 07:00 AM	#43
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	Our whole humane society has been shut down for at least a month due to parvo...I dont take my dogs into any public places right now just in case...even the pet stores arent allowing people to hold their pets. Pretty scary disease. I lost my puppy gidget years ago to it, she was sooooooooo sick. Dawn

10-11-2006, 11:03 AM	#44
luv4yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,611	Parvo can be in the air also I thought. I hope your baby gets over it. please keep us updated.