New Yorkie owner, from a breeder that is questionable. So sad. - Page 3 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Sherry Lynn · 02-08-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

It's no rumor that Jeff Dane is a scam artist...The guy is a puppy factory and I rate him right up there with the worst Pet Stores.

I'm very sorry you are having so much trouble...he's been bad news for years and many people fall for his website and facilities but he got rich off the backs of selling puppies from mills AND lying about the health of many....

I've known a few people a few years back who went thru similar situations with him and I'm just sorry he's still in business....once the puppies leave his premises - he wants nothing to do with them and as someone who lives in Texas also - I've heard nothing but bad things about him.

There are some lucky people out there but there who have healthy puppies - but there are TOO many stories like yours and my heart goes out to you. I would report him and do whatever you can to call attention to this problem.

I beg to differ with you, my darling Villette!! We have one member who loves to defend this guy.

IMO... if it walks like a duck...

Welcome to YT Myorkie2, so sorry to hear about your babies. I hope someone here can give you advice on how to get them back in top form.

reneernc · 02-08-2006, 06:39 PM

I have such conflicting feelings about purchasing from mills and pet stores...I know it helps them to continue their business, but OMG, what happens to the poor pups we don't rescue?

whispersmom2 · 02-08-2006, 07:01 PM

I am so sorry to hear that you have sickly babies. Since we are not directly attacking a breeder, it is in my opinion okay to call him what he is...POND SCUM!
Take up for him; question our comments; whatever, but these are our opinions which is what this forum encourages. And, unless I mis-read the rules, we cannot attack each other or other breeders. Is that right?
If not, I am sure I will be corrected or my post will be deleted.. JMO

heather_lathrop · 02-08-2006, 07:13 PM

First I would like to say thank you for sharing your story. That way he can't scam others. Second you are a good person to keep the babies, b/c lots of people would have just taken them back to him. And who knows what he would have done from there. It's so sad! I wish that there was some type of verification system for these people. That way they can't just say that they are good breeders! I hope your sweet babies get better soon! God bless you for having such a big heart. And I hope that they get better, and your others don't get sick! I will be saying a little prayer for all involved here.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 02-08-2006, 07:14 PM

where did myorkies2 go?

I hope she comes back.

whispersmom2 · 02-08-2006, 07:24 PM

My post is not intended to go off topic but I did PM her and explained to her that we love our Yorkies and owners and would love keep hearing from her.

txshopper73 · 02-08-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

Since we are not directly attacking a breeder, it is in my opinion okay to call him what he is...POND SCUM!
Take up for him; question our comments; whatever, but these are our opinions which is what this forum encourages. And, unless I mis-read the rules, we cannot attack each other or other breeders. Is that right?
If not, I am sure I will be corrected or my post will be deleted.. JMO

Also, Rini...remember this...if it is the truth or one's opinion, it is not considered slanderous. Read this from someone in the legal profession.

BamaFan121s · 02-08-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherry Lynn

I beg to differ with you, my darling Villette!! We have one member who loves to defend this guy.

IMO... if it walks like a duck...

It really astounds me to no end that ANYONE could possibly find anything positive about this guy. Honestly...the thought of him and what he does literally makes me sick to my stomach. Have I ever met him/talked to him? No. Do I have to meet him/talk to him to know what a creep he is, No. Do I care if he or anyone else thinks that is a 'fair' opinion? No I don't...don't waste your time. He is bad bad bad.

txshopper73 · 02-08-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

where did myorkies2 go?

I hope she comes back.

I'm sure she will...she probably has a life unlike so many of us!

Maiflower · 02-08-2006, 08:29 PM

I can't believe someone would do that to these poor animals. Althought I'm sorry that you have to be caught in this mess, at least you're doing something good. It sounds like you came into the yorkie's life just in time. Just imagine what would happen if you didn't buy your yorkie and took care of him? Maybe it was meant to be for you to be the mama of this yorkie

Sounds like you are giving this pup a lot of love and care. Your baby is very lucky to have you

Itspuppyluv · 02-08-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by scrapindee

Not trying to be skeptical here, but if all these stories about this particular breeder/broker are true, why hasn't it been reported to the district attorney in that state as well as to the Humane Society.

I don't doubt the illness of the puppy, it seems like many of us get our puppies home and they are sick with kennel cough within 48 hours.

If this guy is such a sham, we here at YT should make sure the word gets out in it he is reported to the appropriate authorities to stop anyone else from falling victim to him. People like him need to be stopped, if the rumors and stories are true.

He might not be breaking any laws so it is very difficult to do anything except spread the word. I'm not saying not to try I just know they can get away with a lot and still not be shut down. From just the posts on YT that I've found we have six members that have had bad experiences with this guy but not much that can be done about it.

We see a lot of stories on the news here about mills because we are close to Lancaster PA aka puppymill capital USA. Any dog lover would be horrified to see how they are kept. Legally.
Here is part of my point to the above statement - there was an undercover news investigation where the reporter went to the farm, showed cage upon cage upon cage....200 cages in all enclosed in a barn. That is how they live. They were there when an inspector inspected the place and found a dead dog and I swear I will never forget this...the reporter asked if anything would be done - a citation, anything and the inspector casually shrugged and said, "no, with this many dogs it's bound to happen." Didn't even bother to find out what killed it first.

There are a lof of people that might not think that is that bad including people who control these things. And there are worse if you really want to look for them.

Sorry to go on so and back on topic...

myorkies2, I'm sorry you are going through this. I hope they are better soon.

yorkiemom1970 · 02-09-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

It's no rumor that Jeff Dane is a scam artist...The guy is a puppy factory and I rate him right up there with the worst Pet Stores.

I'm very sorry you are having so much trouble...he's been bad news for years and many people fall for his website and facilities but he got rich off the backs of selling puppies from mills AND lying about the health of many....

I've known a few people a few years back who went thru similar situations with him and I'm just sorry he's still in business....once the puppies leave his premises - he wants nothing to do with them and as someone who lives in Texas also - I've heard nothing but bad things about him.

There are some lucky people out there but there who have healthy puppies - but there are TOO many stories like yours and my heart goes out to you. I would report him and do whatever you can to call attention to this problem.

oh gahh villette, help me, stop me, keep me from posting on this! i don't want to go here again... every time i hear the horror stories i get more sickened. anyone who is all for him, i say great for you, but he is not a person i would ever trust to insure me or anyone i know with a healthy baby. compare my baby to a coke can and i'll compare you to a.....well...i'll shut up now.

red98vett · 02-09-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

I agree that a lot of the bad publicity for some breeders comes for the fact that yorkies are especially susceptible to coccidia, kennel cough and hypoglycemia as puppies. All of mine had something except my Ava.

I think when you are a "volume" breeder or broker like Jeff Dane is you cannot make everyone happy all the time.

I have tried to get the Texas YTers near him to go for a visit to his operation and report back what they discover so we can take action if it is really bad and put him out of business. I even offered to pay for the gas for one but I got no takers. If I ever make it to that part of Texas, I will make it a point to go just because I am curious if those puppies are as bad off as some say.

I beg to differ with this post. I keep hearing you say these are rumors and would love to clear that up....I've said this before so sorry if I'm repeating myself. JEFF DANE SUCKS.

I've been posting and reading on Yorkie sites since Chanel was a baby - that's almost FOUR years. IF I had only recently joined forums I wouldn't be saying this... but feel I can say this because I HAVE been posting so long.

I've personaly talked to people who HAVE been there and HAVE purchased a sick puppy from him. It's probably because I AM in Texas that I've been contacted by those people....but I can say with 100% certainty that these are NOT RUMORS. I can remember people who were just heartsick about the puppy they bought from Jeff Dane....

Just because you personally have never talked to anyone... doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Why would anyone wany to defend someone who has TWELVE HUNDRED yorkies and who has over the years sold MANY sick puppies ?

myorkies2 · 02-09-2006, 04:53 AM

Good Morning,
Another tough night with the babies, I finally just took them both to my recliner and held them in a blanky, elevated so that they could get some rest. They seemed to not cough and gag so much in this position. They are just precious and snuggled up to my chest , we were warm and got a few Z's....

Someone posted that maybe it was meant to be like this.......for me to get these sick babies. I always try to look at life that way, it helps make the 'medicine' go down easier.

I will be notifying any organization I can get my hands on about this experience. Have already begun some of that, when I have a spare minute.

Feeling like a zombie here this morning, just in space with the curser, so I guess that is my clue to tootalou...
Thanks to all of you for the prayers and heartfelt messages. I appreciate them all, and I am so glad to have found you for support.
The babies and I, are blessed by you all .

red98vett · 02-09-2006, 04:59 AM

Bless your heart - I really am sorry you're going thru this and hope your puppies get better really fast - you sound like you're doing a wonderful job and I hope all the posts about him didn't bother you - I feel so bad you had to deal with him..... but for now what's important is getting them feeling better....

Good luck to you....I wish there was more we could do to help

02-08-2006, 07:13 PM	#34
heather_lathrop Gizmo and Gidget's Pet Donating Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,326	First I would like to say thank you for sharing your story. That way he can't scam others. Second you are a good person to keep the babies, b/c lots of people would have just taken them back to him. And who knows what he would have done from there. It's so sad! I wish that there was some type of verification system for these people. That way they can't just say that they are good breeders! I hope your sweet babies get better soon! God bless you for having such a big heart. And I hope that they get better, and your others don't get sick! I will be saying a little prayer for all involved here. __________________ Heather & Max - In honor of my sweet Ayden!

02-09-2006, 04:59 AM	#45
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Bless your heart - I really am sorry you're going thru this and hope your puppies get better really fast - you sound like you're doing a wonderful job and I hope all the posts about him didn't bother you - I feel so bad you had to deal with him..... but for now what's important is getting them feeling better.... Good luck to you....I wish there was more we could do to help __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!

02-08-2006, 06:39 PM	#32
reneernc Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: alabama Posts: 807	I have such conflicting feelings about purchasing from mills and pet stores...I know it helps them to continue their business, but OMG, what happens to the poor pups we don't rescue?

02-08-2006, 07:01 PM	#33
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	I am so sorry to hear that you have sickly babies. Since we are not directly attacking a breeder, it is in my opinion okay to call him what he is...POND SCUM! Take up for him; question our comments; whatever, but these are our opinions which is what this forum encourages. And, unless I mis-read the rules, we cannot attack each other or other breeders. Is that right? If not, I am sure I will be corrected or my post will be deleted.. JMO

02-08-2006, 07:14 PM	#35
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	where did myorkies2 go? I hope she comes back.

02-08-2006, 07:24 PM	#36
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	My post is not intended to go off topic but I did PM her and explained to her that we love our Yorkies and owners and would love keep hearing from her.

02-08-2006, 08:29 PM	#40
Maiflower BANNED! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 48	I can't believe someone would do that to these poor animals. Althought I'm sorry that you have to be caught in this mess, at least you're doing something good. It sounds like you came into the yorkie's life just in time. Just imagine what would happen if you didn't buy your yorkie and took care of him? Maybe it was meant to be for you to be the mama of this yorkie Sounds like you are giving this pup a lot of love and care. Your baby is very lucky to have you

02-09-2006, 04:53 AM	#44
myorkies2 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: dallas Posts: 103	Good Morning, Another tough night with the babies, I finally just took them both to my recliner and held them in a blanky, elevated so that they could get some rest. They seemed to not cough and gag so much in this position. They are just precious and snuggled up to my chest , we were warm and got a few Z's.... Someone posted that maybe it was meant to be like this.......for me to get these sick babies. I always try to look at life that way, it helps make the 'medicine' go down easier. I will be notifying any organization I can get my hands on about this experience. Have already begun some of that, when I have a spare minute. Feeling like a zombie here this morning, just in space with the curser, so I guess that is my clue to tootalou... Thanks to all of you for the prayers and heartfelt messages. I appreciate them all, and I am so glad to have found you for support. The babies and I, are blessed by you all .