how to aleviate Separation Anxiety? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

hunniebunnie · 01-30-2006, 11:29 PM

bunjee hardly ever barks or cries when i'm around, but whenever i'm away, he's just one crying machine. is there anyway i can help aleviate the crying from separation anxiety? one of my neighbors is complaining about the crying.

bugaboosmom · 01-30-2006, 11:55 PM

They sure do miss us when we're gone. What I do when I leave is not to make a big deal about it same for when I get home. Also you may try leaving a TV or radio on when you leave and some special treat or toy for only when you're gone. I hear kongs are good for this although I've have'nt tried one yet. Good Luck

Yorkiedog · 01-31-2006, 03:41 AM

I always leave the radio on for my two when I go out and if it is dark I always leave the light on.
Kongs are excellent at keeping them busy while your out.
Fill with peanut butter or pate for a quick and easy filling or of course you could choose a messier filling

Teddys are another good comfort for them as they can snuggle up to them

When I go out mine always sleep in their crates as I feel this helps them feel secure.

Hope this helps

Sharon,Charley & Melody.

Ladylavender · 01-31-2006, 05:25 AM

I agree:

1. Never ever make a big deal when you leave or come home. Don't say good bye, don't acknowledge your puppy when you get home. Just leave and just come, as if you went to the garage or outside for a few minutes. No big deal.

2. Keep the puppy confined in a very small area or preferably in a crate. The more confined they are the more secure they feel when alone.

3. Turn the radio on or the TV on. I would suggest putting on a channel where you know there will not be dogs barking or loud noises. (We always put our TV on HGTV - lots of talking but very little excitement) We have noticed when we are watching Animal Planet that when there is animal activity such as meowing or barking, Millies does react to it as if it is coming from outside. She will also react to loud noises and doorbell ringing, so we keep it on HGTV.

FirstYorkie · 01-31-2006, 05:39 AM

Here is a link to a truly excellent article on separation anxiety. I hope you will read it as it really is good.

http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/2002/sa.htm

Good luck!

diva pup · 01-31-2006, 05:58 AM

http://home.gci.net/~divs/behavior/bemod_depart.html
Here is another link for you

crystalsmom · 01-31-2006, 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=Ladylavender]I agree:

1. Never ever make a big deal when you leave or come home. Don't say good bye, don't acknowledge your puppy when you get home. Just leave and just come, as if you went to the garage or outside for a few minutes. No big deal.

I agree!!! and the sites given were excellent. I might add one more thing
I did when I was trying to get my first yorkie not to be upset when I left.
I tried to get her to want me to leave lol. Well it's better than thinking of her being upset all the while I was gone. She loved the little bil jac liver treats...so I gave her one only when I left but I didn't make a big deal out of and for sure didn't say much coming into the house again. It didn't take long and Molly was so happy to see me go, you just would not believe it. That was the only time she got a liver treat for the remaining of her life ( of course she got other things) now and then and yet I am not big on treats.

Yorkiedog · 01-31-2006, 06:22 AM

That's a really good idea with the treats Joan

Sharon,Charley & Melody xx

M&M yorkies · 01-31-2006, 06:41 AM

Great article! Alot of the dogs that come into rescue(I am a volunteer and foster), have problems with sep. anx. , amitriptyline really works , as does clomicalm....You really have to take away the anxiety to get them to respond to training... another thing that i read and I liked was , always make a distinctive noise(i.e , ring a bell , blow a whistle)when you exit and enter, and then use that along with the , "leave for 1 minute , come back".Then gradually extend the length of time between ... Also , you need to make sure you are dominant, confusion over dominance can cause sep.anx. . I have had a dog who would rip the end of its nose off to get out of a crate , pee and poo all over the house , was so crazed that it ignored all common rules of dominance with my dogs and would get bitten because of this... he is now in a good home , on meds and doing well.This is a serious issue.

nifer · 01-31-2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ladylavender

3. Turn the radio on or the TV on. I would suggest putting on a channel where you know there will not be dogs barking or loud noises. (We always put our TV on HGTV - lots of talking but very little excitement) We have noticed when we are watching Animal Planet that when there is animal activity such as meowing or barking, Millies does react to it as if it is coming from outside. She will also react to loud noises and doorbell ringing, so we keep it on HGTV.

we've been leaving NPR on for daisy to listen to while we're away.

hunniebunnie · 01-31-2006, 11:01 AM

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I'm definitely checking out all the articles posted. I figure I'd post a more detailed description of what I'm doing so maybe someone can provide more specific pointers.

So one of the major problems I have with Bunjee is that he hates being crated. Oh he'll go into the crate on his own and go to sleep in it. But he whines like there's no tomorrow if the door is shut and he does not see anyone there. I use a travel crate with him and I've come home from school before where the crate has moved 5 feet from its original spot, probably from him trying to get out.

I've also noticed that his amount of whining without me there is directly associated with the amount of space he's allowed to roam. He'll whine for a couple hours straight if left in his crate. He'll whine for 30 mins at 30 min intervals if left in the gated portion of kitchen. He'll whine minimally if left to roam the condo on his own (not of my own doing though, this is when he was able to climb out of his old gate.). But i'm not ready to allow him full access to the condo while i'm away just yet.

I've made every effort to make his confined area a happy, fun place. It's exclusively the area with all his toys, treats (like kong and other food dispensing toys), food and water. But it seems like he ignores all of that once the gate is closed. He'll ignore his toys, his food, his treats and try everything to get out of the gated area: whine, bark, cry, climb, jump an otherwise destructive in his gated area. He's even like this when I have him gated while I take a shower or a bath. I think he's viewing gated area as one big crate. And he hates being crated. He'll be "okay" with being confined if he sees me, but as soon as I step away even just to another room, the whining and frantic pawing at the gate starts.

I know many articles say to just ignore the whining. But that's just not an option for me anymore. I've been ignoring his whining and if it's more than 5 minutes then the neighbors will start complaining. That's just the problem with living in close proximity to your neighbors.

I've also tried giving him more exercise during the day so that he'll be sleepy and tired when I'm away. Which works for the most part when I'm present. But he'll have a sudden burst of energy when he's gated.

I always leave the lights on in his area so that he can see. I don't let him out of the gated area unless he calms down which he usually will when I'm there. I'm going to start leaving the radio on to see if it helps. If regular radio does't work, then I'm going to record myself talking and letting it play in a loop for a few hours while i'm gone to see if hearing my voice will work.

He's such a good boy otherwise. He's nearly potty trained (only one accident in the past week since he's been neutered and before that he went 2 weeks without an accident). He doesn't chew on furniture (although his baby teeth are starting to fall out and his adult teeth may be coming in soon so i'm not taking any chances). He's getting pretty good at his basic obedience commmands... except for (surprise, surprise) the "stay" command. The separation anexiety is just the one thing that we're having such trouble with.

JCarlson2004 · 01-31-2006, 11:12 AM

I got a second dog and my Codie's SA went away.

prncssleah · 01-31-2006, 11:27 AM

Has anyone tried one of these? I've been thinking about getting one for Buckeye before he gets here on Saturday so that when we go to work on Monday or even at night he'll have a little something to comfort him...do they work? hunniebunnie maybe something like this could help.

http://www.sitstay.com/store/toys/snugglepup.shtml

miezzi · 01-31-2006, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCarlson2004

I got a second dog and my Codie's SA went away.

I too got a 2nd yorkie and Luigi just goes to his bed now and They fall asleep toether!!! No whining or barking when I leave!!!!

hunniebunnie · 01-31-2006, 12:59 PM

as much as i would love to get another doggie companion for bunjee, i'm just not ready for another one right now. and i don't want the risk of having two barkers instead of one...

so i gated bunjee in the kitchen area while i'm in the living room watching tv. i'm staying quiet with only the tv on. he's still whining and struggling to get out of the gated area. is there anything else i can do to make it more comfortable for him?

01-30-2006, 11:29 PM	#1
hunniebunnie Follower of Yorkietology Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cali-fo-nee-ya Posts: 1,325	how to aleviate Separation Anxiety? bunjee hardly ever barks or cries when i'm around, but whenever i'm away, he's just one crying machine. is there anyway i can help aleviate the crying from separation anxiety? one of my neighbors is complaining about the crying.

01-31-2006, 05:39 AM	#5
FirstYorkie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: American in London Posts: 1,739	Here is a link to a truly excellent article on separation anxiety. I hope you will read it as it really is good. http://www.clickersolutions.com/articles/2002/sa.htm Good luck! __________________ FirstYorkie We Love Clicker-Training!

01-31-2006, 06:18 AM	#7
crystalsmom Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,946	[QUOTE=Ladylavender]I agree: 1. Never ever make a big deal when you leave or come home. Don't say good bye, don't acknowledge your puppy when you get home. Just leave and just come, as if you went to the garage or outside for a few minutes. No big deal. I agree!!! and the sites given were excellent. I might add one more thing I did when I was trying to get my first yorkie not to be upset when I left. I tried to get her to want me to leave lol. Well it's better than thinking of her being upset all the while I was gone. She loved the little bil jac liver treats...so I gave her one only when I left but I didn't make a big deal out of and for sure didn't say much coming into the house again. It didn't take long and Molly was so happy to see me go, you just would not believe it. That was the only time she got a liver treat for the remaining of her life ( of course she got other things) now and then and yet I am not big on treats. __________________

01-31-2006, 11:12 AM	#12
JCarlson2004 Mommy To 3 Poochies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 8,287	I got a second dog and my Codie's SA went away. __________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You

01-31-2006, 11:27 AM	#13
prncssleah YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hartsville, SC Posts: 263	Has anyone tried the snuggle puppy? Has anyone tried one of these? I've been thinking about getting one for Buckeye before he gets here on Saturday so that when we go to work on Monday or even at night he'll have a little something to comfort him...do they work? hunniebunnie maybe something like this could help. http://www.sitstay.com/store/toys/snugglepup.shtml

01-30-2006, 11:55 PM	#2
bugaboosmom Luv My Bug! Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: california Posts: 1,573	They sure do miss us when we're gone. What I do when I leave is not to make a big deal about it same for when I get home. Also you may try leaving a TV or radio on when you leave and some special treat or toy for only when you're gone. I hear kongs are good for this although I've have'nt tried one yet. Good Luck

01-31-2006, 03:41 AM	#3
Yorkiedog Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scotland UK Posts: 190	I always leave the radio on for my two when I go out and if it is dark I always leave the light on. Kongs are excellent at keeping them busy while your out. Fill with peanut butter or pate for a quick and easy filling or of course you could choose a messier filling Teddys are another good comfort for them as they can snuggle up to them When I go out mine always sleep in their crates as I feel this helps them feel secure. Hope this helps Sharon,Charley & Melody.

01-31-2006, 05:25 AM	#4
Ladylavender YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Soddy Daisy, TN Posts: 733	I agree: 1. Never ever make a big deal when you leave or come home. Don't say good bye, don't acknowledge your puppy when you get home. Just leave and just come, as if you went to the garage or outside for a few minutes. No big deal. 2. Keep the puppy confined in a very small area or preferably in a crate. The more confined they are the more secure they feel when alone. 3. Turn the radio on or the TV on. I would suggest putting on a channel where you know there will not be dogs barking or loud noises. (We always put our TV on HGTV - lots of talking but very little excitement) We have noticed when we are watching Animal Planet that when there is animal activity such as meowing or barking, Millies does react to it as if it is coming from outside. She will also react to loud noises and doorbell ringing, so we keep it on HGTV.

01-31-2006, 05:58 AM	#6
diva pup BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,139	http://home.gci.net/~divs/behavior/bemod_depart.html Here is another link for you

01-31-2006, 06:22 AM	#8
Yorkiedog Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Scotland UK Posts: 190	That's a really good idea with the treats Joan Sharon,Charley & Melody xx

01-31-2006, 06:41 AM	#9
M&M yorkies Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aurora, Ontario, Canada Posts: 45	Great article! Alot of the dogs that come into rescue(I am a volunteer and foster), have problems with sep. anx. , amitriptyline really works , as does clomicalm....You really have to take away the anxiety to get them to respond to training... another thing that i read and I liked was , always make a distinctive noise(i.e , ring a bell , blow a whistle)when you exit and enter, and then use that along with the , "leave for 1 minute , come back".Then gradually extend the length of time between ... Also , you need to make sure you are dominant, confusion over dominance can cause sep.anx. . I have had a dog who would rip the end of its nose off to get out of a crate , pee and poo all over the house , was so crazed that it ignored all common rules of dominance with my dogs and would get bitten because of this... he is now in a good home , on meds and doing well.This is a serious issue.

01-31-2006, 11:01 AM	#11
hunniebunnie Follower of Yorkietology Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cali-fo-nee-ya Posts: 1,325	Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I'm definitely checking out all the articles posted. I figure I'd post a more detailed description of what I'm doing so maybe someone can provide more specific pointers. So one of the major problems I have with Bunjee is that he hates being crated. Oh he'll go into the crate on his own and go to sleep in it. But he whines like there's no tomorrow if the door is shut and he does not see anyone there. I use a travel crate with him and I've come home from school before where the crate has moved 5 feet from its original spot, probably from him trying to get out. I've also noticed that his amount of whining without me there is directly associated with the amount of space he's allowed to roam. He'll whine for a couple hours straight if left in his crate. He'll whine for 30 mins at 30 min intervals if left in the gated portion of kitchen. He'll whine minimally if left to roam the condo on his own (not of my own doing though, this is when he was able to climb out of his old gate.). But i'm not ready to allow him full access to the condo while i'm away just yet. I've made every effort to make his confined area a happy, fun place. It's exclusively the area with all his toys, treats (like kong and other food dispensing toys), food and water. But it seems like he ignores all of that once the gate is closed. He'll ignore his toys, his food, his treats and try everything to get out of the gated area: whine, bark, cry, climb, jump an otherwise destructive in his gated area. He's even like this when I have him gated while I take a shower or a bath. I think he's viewing gated area as one big crate. And he hates being crated. He'll be "okay" with being confined if he sees me, but as soon as I step away even just to another room, the whining and frantic pawing at the gate starts. I know many articles say to just ignore the whining. But that's just not an option for me anymore. I've been ignoring his whining and if it's more than 5 minutes then the neighbors will start complaining. That's just the problem with living in close proximity to your neighbors. I've also tried giving him more exercise during the day so that he'll be sleepy and tired when I'm away. Which works for the most part when I'm present. But he'll have a sudden burst of energy when he's gated. I always leave the lights on in his area so that he can see. I don't let him out of the gated area unless he calms down which he usually will when I'm there. I'm going to start leaving the radio on to see if it helps. If regular radio does't work, then I'm going to record myself talking and letting it play in a loop for a few hours while i'm gone to see if hearing my voice will work. He's such a good boy otherwise. He's nearly potty trained (only one accident in the past week since he's been neutered and before that he went 2 weeks without an accident). He doesn't chew on furniture (although his baby teeth are starting to fall out and his adult teeth may be coming in soon so i'm not taking any chances). He's getting pretty good at his basic obedience commmands... except for (surprise, surprise) the "stay" command. The separation anexiety is just the one thing that we're having such trouble with.

01-31-2006, 12:59 PM	#15
hunniebunnie Follower of Yorkietology Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cali-fo-nee-ya Posts: 1,325	as much as i would love to get another doggie companion for bunjee, i'm just not ready for another one right now. and i don't want the risk of having two barkers instead of one... so i gated bunjee in the kitchen area while i'm in the living room watching tv. i'm staying quiet with only the tv on. he's still whining and struggling to get out of the gated area. is there anything else i can do to make it more comfortable for him?