Am I wrong for being piss!?

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by Baileys_Momma

If you are looking to breed your Yorkie, him having only one testes isn't going to stop him from breeding. Both of my babies father only have one testes and my male has both of his. Although yes, it can be genetic, there is no reason why you still wouldn't be able to breed him. Please don't be so upset. Having one testes is not a health concern as it happens to adults, children and pets all the time.

WHAT??? Are you serious?????

I better leave this alone before I say something that I'll regret!!!!!

[sylvan]

Originally Posted by Baileys_Momma

If you are looking to breed your Yorkie, him having only one testes isn't going to stop him from breeding. Both of my babies father only have one testes and my male has both of his. Although yes, it can be genetic, there is no reason why you still wouldn't be able to breed him. Please don't be so upset. Having one testes is not a health concern as it happens to adults, children and pets all the time.

It is my understanding that this IS a genetic defect and shouldn't be bred.
That being said, the more obvious reason that this dog should not be bred is the fact that the breeder who sold him has not been forthright or communicative and who knows what other problems may be existing in his background.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by ivy

Are you sure because the vet and groomer and others i've talked to said that it can be cancerous and not that Kiroshi shouldn't i shouldn't breed him because it can be passed and he might be sterile.

Yes, you are correct. It could very well become problematic as far as cancer is concerned. And from everything I know, it IS hereditary. Why would you want to pass on a genetic defect--one that carries the cancer possibility at that--on to future generations? Just not a good idea, IMO. Remember, just because the male may be physically able to father pups, doens't mean he should.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by sylvan

It is my understanding that this IS a genetic defect and shouldn't be bred.
That being said, the more obvious reason that this dog should not be bred is the fact that the breeder who sold him has not been forthright or communicative and who knows what other problems may be existing in his background.

Another good point...

[YorkieRose]

Of course a male with one testicule can sire pups;.but why would you do it? If a breed was about to be extinct, then I see a need to breed whatever to preserve it..but that is not the case with Yorkies.

Bad bites and retained testicules are one of the common genetic faults that are passed along from one generation to the next that can be weeded out...you may see no problem with one testicule, but it is a BIG problem. The vet has to go into the body cavity to retrieve the lost testicle to neuter the male...it is not only means more surgery to the dog, it is much more expensive..so I think you should pass this extra expense along to the buyers of your pups..after all, you bred a male knowing fulll well it could sire males with testicle problems...

[Gazou]

Originally Posted by Baileys_Momma

If you are looking to breed your Yorkie, him having only one testes isn't going to stop him from breeding. Both of my babies father only have one testes and my male has both of his. Although yes, it can be genetic, there is no reason why you still wouldn't be able to breed him. Please don't be so upset. Having one testes is not a health concern as it happens to adults, children and pets all the time.

Is it possible to explain , How it is not a health concern ?

[Baileys_Momma]

You know I didn't write what I did to be jumped on by others that think they know everything. What I was simply saying is that it is possible that the dog only has one testes not that one is decended and could be cancerous. I'm sorry if that did not come across the way I meant it to sound. That being said, my Bailey's father has one testes, born with one, and is fine, nothing wrong with him. It is possible that a yorkie can have one testes and not be unhealthy.

Sometimes I wonder if it's even worth posting your opinion on here because some of you can be awfully quick to judge or point fingers and tell someone they are wrong. What ever happened to the age old saying "If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all" Comments like "WHAT??? Are you serious????? I better leave this alone before I say something that I'll regret!!!!!" are really not necessary!!!! I'm not perfect and don't claim to be, all I am doing here is posting my expereince which happens to not be a bad one, give me a break!!!

[Gazou]

I didn't ask this question to be mean . I just wanted to know , that's all .

[Baileys_Momma]

Ok so my daughter is disabled, I didn't know this until after I had her and still chose to have children after her knowing full well there was a chance they could have the same disability. Should I have not conceived anymore children because there is a CHANCE??

[txshopper73]

Originally Posted by Baileys_Momma

You know I didn't write what I did to be jumped on by others that think they know everything. What I was simply saying is that it is possible that the dog only has one testes not that one is decended and could be cancerous. I'm sorry if that did not come across the way I meant it to sound. That being said, my Bailey's father has one testes, born with one, and is fine, nothing wrong with him. It is possible that a yorkie can have one testes and not be unhealthy.

Sometimes I wonder if it's even worth posting your opinion on here because some of you can be awfully quick to judge or point fingers and tell someone they are wrong. What ever happened to the age old saying "If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all" Comments like "WHAT??? Are you serious????? I better leave this alone before I say something that I'll regret!!!!!" are really not necessary!!!! I'm not perfect and don't claim to be, all I am doing here is posting my expereince which happens to not be a bad one, give me a break!!!

Yes, it is possible to breed a male with only one testicle. Should it be done, NO! And for you to come here, practically encouraging it, is reckless of you. It is a genetic FAULT and should not ever be bred or bred back. With you posting that for everyone to read, people are thinking...well, he only has one testicle why not breed him? Or, her overbite isn't bad...I'll go ahead and breed her anyway. If you have a serious fault, it should not be bred. PERIOD. That's what is happening with this breed that everyone loves. People are breeding these faults back into the lines that others are working so hard to correct.

[YorkieRose]

This can turn nasty..but it must be said..using a male for stud who has such a known fault is unethical IMO. If a breeder willingly uses dogs with obvious fautls, what else will they do?
I believe ethic's is such a large part of breeding, no ethic's and it all goes in the toliet.
I do know a portion of retained testicles are very difficult to extract. Some are located deep in the groin and up into the belly areas..the surgery can be far more extensive then a simply neuter. If there is even a 10% chance of a pet owners pet getting cancer as they age..what does it say about the breeder..to me it says the breeder does not care about 10% of the pups they sell or what they may have to endure..not ethical.

There is NEVER a valid reason to use a male with one testicle. The Yorkie world is running over with quality males with two of them..you must totally disregard the standard to so.

[PlatinumYorkies]

I have the trait that causes Sickle Cell Anemia, that means I am one half of a carrier to a very disabling disease( I even have to watch when I get sick, because I get terribly weak, and might need a blood transfusion) I wouldn't wish that on anyone. If I was able to have children, and if I had a mate who had the trait also...we would adopt, or seek other AVENUE'S!!!

[gymbo68]

Originally Posted by txshopper73

Yes, it is possible to breed a male with only one testicle. Should it be done, NO! And for you to come here, practically encouraging it, is reckless of you. It is a genetic FAULT and should not ever be bred or bred back. With you posting that for everyone to read, people are thinking...well, he only has one testicle why not breed him? Or, her overbite isn't bad...I'll go ahead and breed her anyway. If you have a serious fault, it should not be bred. PERIOD. That's what is happening with this breed that everyone loves. People are breeding these faults back into the lines that others are working so hard to correct.

Well said...

[gymbo68]

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

This can turn nasty..but it must be said..using a male for stud who has such a known fault is unethical IMO. If a breeder willingly uses dogs with obvious fautls, what else will they do?
I believe ethic's is such a large part of breeding, no ethic's and it all goes in the toliet.
I do know a portion of retained testicles are very difficult to extract. Some are located deep in the groin and up into the belly areas..the surgery can be far more extensive then a simply neuter. If there is even a 10% chance of a pet owners pet getting cancer as they age..what does it say about the breeder..to me it says the breeder does not care about 10% of the pups they sell or what they may have to endure..not ethical.

There is NEVER a valid reason to use a male with one testicle. The Yorkie world is running over with quality males with two of them..you must totally disregard the standard to so.

I agree--

Ivy, I am so sorry this has happened to you-
1. It may still drop- a breeder here had a boy whose teste dropped when he was like 7 months old-
2. If it does not - make a decision to either love him as a pet and consider having him neutered so the defect does not pass on through an "accident", or place him in a home that will love him as a pet..

This is my opinion only but I do think it is important to consider-

[Pattie]

Originally Posted by ivy

My puppy is now 7 months and His, excuse me, balls dropped right except only one did and i thought maybe he was stressed and he retained one back but its been a while and theres only one. I went to the vet and the Dr. told me that she couldn't find the other one. I'm so mad i bought him with open registration and everything. WAs my breeder a bad breeder? I called her and told her about my Kiroshi. She said i was the first person to ever call her about something like that and that as far as she knows no other dogs in kiroshi's blood line had the either. She suggested that i have the dr. find the other one and stretch out the cord. She said she's had it done before. I was appalled at hearing this, i called and asked the Dr. and she said that it's never been done to dogs only children. I bought kiroshi for $1200 . She had the nerve to say "didn't i sell him to you as a pet anyways?" My gosh this woman! I was just so angry? He wasn't sold as just a pet and he should've been. I love my little one though don't get me wrong. I'm just piss that i paid more for him than i should've.

When I complained to my breeder about something, she made the same comment to me, "You bought her as a pet anyway" By any chance is your breeder's name Carol? Shame on those breeder's who take the $$ fast and then shun you!