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shelbysmom · 01-29-2006, 07:46 PM

not sure that I would have shared the price with my friend.

on the other hand try not to be offended. she may have felt defensive about her price and there are legitimate reasons why some breeders charge more than others.

she was kind of put in a tough spot by this too.

mollymae · 01-29-2006, 07:59 PM

Hi,

I have a female (Mollie) and a male (Cody). Mollie's ears are up and her coat is very soft and thin, on the other hand, Cody ears flop and his coat is gorgeous. I wouldn't trade either one of them. They are both adorable. And, I wanted thicker coats, but I adore them both. Just love your furbaby and she will reward you more than words can say.

Jan

armywife84 · 01-29-2006, 10:15 PM

I got my Toby at 7 weeks and the breeder had his ears taped with masking tape to help them along. He is now 14 weeks and we havent had to replace the tape for about a week now

! and believe me my baby has some big ears I thought they would never stand.

SO..

There are probably some people that dont agree with doing this but it worked for us and it didnt hurt Toby at all. Also I asked my vet if I was doing all this properly and he said I was just fine.

What we did was every 2-3 dayswe would take off the tape (standard 1inch 3M masking tape). He would have a bit of wax built up so i would clean the easy to get to parts with a cotton ball and alochol (i used q-tips for the crevises). Then we make sure all of the sticky is out of his hair. Usually we would let them air out for a while (sometimes overnight) Then we would use like 2 2-3 inch peices to retape. Just make sure you trim any excess hair and you crease the ear well. The tape should be tight enough so they stand (they look like little horns) but not so tight they cut off circulation.

Dont give up though they have good days and bad days! I know the book"yorkies for dummies" says to keep trying until around 6 months!

Hope this was helpful!!

alaskayorkie · 01-29-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reesie

We are new yorkie owners. She is 4 months old now and the most adorable. My girlfriend has had several litters and at the time we got bought our puppy she had a litter. We didn't want to pay $1200.00 for one of her puppies and didn't want her to lower her price just for us so we found a puppy for much less. When I called and told her what we paid she started asking me all kinds of questions. She wanted to know if the mothers ears were standing and how much she weighed. I told her no the ears were not standing and she weighed 9 pounds, but her father weighed 6 pounds. She told me that because my puppies ears were not erect and her mothers ears were not erect that this was because of bad breeding. Can someone give me some advise on what to tell her because I really don't know.

I'm another YorkieRose fan. Her comments were right on.
If you love your Yorkie, then you made a great decision. I think your friend was needlessly callous in criticizing your pup. You had already purchased her, and her comment could do nothing but upset you. I don't know anything about ears, and frankly I don't care, but the breed standard for Yorkies is 7 pounds or less, so technically a 9-pound Yorkie could be considered "poor breeding." That's ridiculous. I have a 9 pound Yorkie who is strong as an ox and the happiest dog I've ever owned. If that's bad breeding, I've got no problem with that label. Your friend has a right to her opinion, but maybe she should keep it to herself.

barbg402 · 01-30-2006, 05:10 AM

Welcome to YT. Just because your puppies ears are not standing is not a sign of bad breeding. I have one yorkie that her ears do not stand. She had four pups all with ears that stand.
I purchased a puppy, that one ear didn't want to stand and I used the following method. Take a regular (grocery) or brown paper bag, cut a v shape just a little smaller than the puppy's ear. Go to wal-mart or any store and buy eyelash adhesive. Dot adhesive onto back of v paper and apply inside of each ear, leave one week. Take it off and see if ears continue to stand. If not, reapply for an additional week. It worked for me. Make sure you have taken off the extra hair front and back of ears before doing this procedure.
Good luck and enjoy your baby with or without erect ears!

hunniebunnie · 01-30-2006, 05:41 AM

If the purpose of breeding a yorkie is to improve the breed and strive for the "perfect standard" then yes, a 9 lb yorkie with floppy ears should not have been bred. but i think to say that a puppy of such breeding is "from bad breeding" is a bit extreme and harsh. and for a friend to tell you that after you've already purchased a puppy that you're happy with... well... it's kinda insensitive on your friend's part. imho, despite your philosphy about breeding, what's most important is the health and welfare of the parents and the offspring and that you, as a new furbaby parent are happy with your purchase.

my puppy is nearly 5 months now, and his ears are still floppy. i've actually done nothing to try to make them stand. i figure they'll stand if they're suppose to, and they don't, then they won't. it makes no difference to me. he's my spoiled, adorable little baby either way.

Reesie · 01-30-2006, 07:45 AM

Thank you so much for your encouragement. It doesn't matter to me that her ears aren't erect. She was 5 pounds when she was 3 months old so she probably will be larger, but we have a very active family and I'm afraid that a very small baby would scare me. She was the last puppy when we saw her and just couldn't resist. We also have a Cairnpoo Terrier who is 16 years old who has been the love of our lives - She's not real happen with the new addition, but she is very protecting of her when other dogs are around. Would you suggest us getting our baby a playmate?

chachi · 01-30-2006, 07:57 AM

Thats really up to you. I have two and really like it. They keep each other company. The bad side to it is it is double everything in costs. My vet bills are higher. Flea and heartworm meds are higher. It is worth it though

lilnic · 01-30-2006, 09:20 AM

Sure, her ears may be a little big (my pup has bat ears and I think she's cuter for it), but you've got 9 mos to get them standing and there are tricks (shave/ trim heavy fur and tape them up for a few days). I do think it was insensative of your friend, but what really is bad breeding?? Just because it's not show quality doesn't mean she's poorly bred. Breeding dogs with poor joints, teeth, eyes, etc is poor breeding. I think we need to focuse on finding responsable breeders who don't focuse on "tea cups" and who aren't puppy mills (I come from a Puppy Mill State).

I am very happy you found a companion dog in your price range. You saw the parents, and you were still happy with your selection, so don't let your friend or anyone else let get down.

LaviniaHyacynth · 01-30-2006, 10:49 AM

Everyone else has said it so well

Love your puppy and tell your friend to keep her opinions of your dog to herself. I chose my puppy because she was different from the others...I value uniqueness(SP?) Vivi had bat ears and I couldn't resist. She did grow into them. I had no intention to breed or show so I went with my heart and chose the dog that I loved.She is a great dog and the dog love of my life. Go give your sweet puppy a kiss and have fun with your baby. Post pictures soon

shelbysmom · 01-30-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilnic

Sure, her ears may be a little big (my pup has bat ears and I think she's cuter for it), but you've got 9 mos to get them standing and there are tricks (shave/ trim heavy fur and tape them up for a few days). I do think it was insensative of your friend, but what really is bad breeding?? Just because it's not show quality doesn't mean she's poorly bred. Breeding dogs with poor joints, teeth, eyes, etc is poor breeding. I think we need to focuse on finding responsable breeders who don't focuse on "tea cups" and who aren't puppy mills (I come from a Puppy Mill State).

I am very happy you found a companion dog in your price range. You saw the parents, and you were still happy with your selection, so don't let your friend or anyone else let get down.

Bad breeding is breeding poor pet quality Yorkies and the results are far from the standard. I realize that isn't important to everyone but it's kind of sad when someone gets a Yorkie that doesn't look like the breed. It isn't just about health though that is the priority. Most of the breeders on this board agree and try to breed to the standard.

A 9lb. Yorkie with floppy ears probably wasn't a good example to breed but it happened. Love the puppy and don't look back.

lnovack · 01-30-2006, 12:00 PM

Due to inexperience, we picked our dear Gracie out. She has floppy ears, cottony coat, she weighs 9 pounds and she is a little too long. We did not know to ask to see the parents or that ears could be already up at 9 weeks or to what to look for in coat texture in a puppy. Having said all that, you would have to pry her out of my cold dead hands to get her from me! My husband and I are totally in love with her and she is our girl. She rules our hearts and our home, really. Our lives revolve around Gracie. So enjoy that baby and don't worry about her breeding.

Sherry Lynn · 01-30-2006, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YorkieRose

You went in with your eyes open. You saw the mother with down ears, it will be no surprise if your pups ears remain down..or if she is larger.

I would tell your friend you would have loved to have had one of her pups, but the cost was out of your price range at that time.
A real friend will not critize your new companion, a real friend will make over her and tell you what a wonderful pet she is going to make.
If my friend asked my opinion before buying a puppy, I will be honest and tell them want I think..BUT after the pup is purchased, why would I hurt her feelings.
Some people have a need to feel important at others people expense.

I'm with Pat. I think the bad breeding might be in the girlfriend.

Just enjoy your little love muffin!!

alaskayorkie · 01-30-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherry Lynn

I'm with Pat. I think the bad breeding might be in the girlfriend.

Just enjoy your little love muffin!!

Now THAT'S funny.

wendybee · 01-30-2006, 02:23 PM

my rosie is 11lb 3oz with standing up ears.
she is of good breeding, when i went and got her i saw the mum and dad, mum was petite and dad was a right bruiser,it was the first litter they were so well looked after i just new i wanted one of there pups.
so it doesnt really matter what size they are or if the ears are up or down if there not for showing i see it as there special lovely big squashy babies

01-29-2006, 07:59 PM	#17
mollymae Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 124	Ears Hi, I have a female (Mollie) and a male (Cody). Mollie's ears are up and her coat is very soft and thin, on the other hand, Cody ears flop and his coat is gorgeous. I wouldn't trade either one of them. They are both adorable. And, I wanted thicker coats, but I adore them both. Just love your furbaby and she will reward you more than words can say. Jan

01-30-2006, 05:10 AM	#20
barbg402 YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: sumrall, MS Posts: 344	Welcome to YT. Just because your puppies ears are not standing is not a sign of bad breeding. I have one yorkie that her ears do not stand. She had four pups all with ears that stand. I purchased a puppy, that one ear didn't want to stand and I used the following method. Take a regular (grocery) or brown paper bag, cut a v shape just a little smaller than the puppy's ear. Go to wal-mart or any store and buy eyelash adhesive. Dot adhesive onto back of v paper and apply inside of each ear, leave one week. Take it off and see if ears continue to stand. If not, reapply for an additional week. It worked for me. Make sure you have taken off the extra hair front and back of ears before doing this procedure. Good luck and enjoy your baby with or without erect ears! __________________ Barb, Tori, Cassie, Lexi , Hoypka, Jazz, Ms Bardo, Sasha, Candy, " Too Cute", Rowdy-Boy, Machoman Tiger, Nugget, & in memory of Juice The Stud Muffin

01-30-2006, 07:57 AM	#23
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Thats really up to you. I have two and really like it. They keep each other company. The bad side to it is it is double everything in costs. My vet bills are higher. Flea and heartworm meds are higher. It is worth it though __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

01-30-2006, 09:20 AM	#24
lilnic Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 10	WHat is "Bad Breeding", Really?? Sure, her ears may be a little big (my pup has bat ears and I think she's cuter for it), but you've got 9 mos to get them standing and there are tricks (shave/ trim heavy fur and tape them up for a few days). I do think it was insensative of your friend, but what really is bad breeding?? Just because it's not show quality doesn't mean she's poorly bred. Breeding dogs with poor joints, teeth, eyes, etc is poor breeding. I think we need to focuse on finding responsable breeders who don't focuse on "tea cups" and who aren't puppy mills (I come from a Puppy Mill State). I am very happy you found a companion dog in your price range. You saw the parents, and you were still happy with your selection, so don't let your friend or anyone else let get down.

01-30-2006, 10:49 AM	#25
LaviniaHyacynth Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: montclair,nj Posts: 925	Everyone else has said it so well Love your puppy and tell your friend to keep her opinions of your dog to herself. I chose my puppy because she was different from the others...I value uniqueness(SP?) Vivi had bat ears and I couldn't resist. She did grow into them. I had no intention to breed or show so I went with my heart and chose the dog that I loved.She is a great dog and the dog love of my life. Go give your sweet puppy a kiss and have fun with your baby. Post pictures soon __________________ Rest in peace my sweet angel dog, Lavinia Hyacynth, Vivi. I love you forever. Bear healed my broken heart!

01-29-2006, 07:46 PM	#16
shelbysmom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,394	not sure that I would have shared the price with my friend. on the other hand try not to be offended. she may have felt defensive about her price and there are legitimate reasons why some breeders charge more than others. she was kind of put in a tough spot by this too.

01-29-2006, 10:15 PM	#18
armywife84 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Washington State Posts: 13	I got my Toby at 7 weeks and the breeder had his ears taped with masking tape to help them along. He is now 14 weeks and we havent had to replace the tape for about a week now ! and believe me my baby has some big ears I thought they would never stand. SO.. There are probably some people that dont agree with doing this but it worked for us and it didnt hurt Toby at all. Also I asked my vet if I was doing all this properly and he said I was just fine. What we did was every 2-3 dayswe would take off the tape (standard 1inch 3M masking tape). He would have a bit of wax built up so i would clean the easy to get to parts with a cotton ball and alochol (i used q-tips for the crevises). Then we make sure all of the sticky is out of his hair. Usually we would let them air out for a while (sometimes overnight) Then we would use like 2 2-3 inch peices to retape. Just make sure you trim any excess hair and you crease the ear well. The tape should be tight enough so they stand (they look like little horns) but not so tight they cut off circulation. Dont give up though they have good days and bad days! I know the book"yorkies for dummies" says to keep trying until around 6 months! Hope this was helpful!!

01-30-2006, 05:41 AM	#21
hunniebunnie Follower of Yorkietology Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cali-fo-nee-ya Posts: 1,325	If the purpose of breeding a yorkie is to improve the breed and strive for the "perfect standard" then yes, a 9 lb yorkie with floppy ears should not have been bred. but i think to say that a puppy of such breeding is "from bad breeding" is a bit extreme and harsh. and for a friend to tell you that after you've already purchased a puppy that you're happy with... well... it's kinda insensitive on your friend's part. imho, despite your philosphy about breeding, what's most important is the health and welfare of the parents and the offspring and that you, as a new furbaby parent are happy with your purchase. my puppy is nearly 5 months now, and his ears are still floppy. i've actually done nothing to try to make them stand. i figure they'll stand if they're suppose to, and they don't, then they won't. it makes no difference to me. he's my spoiled, adorable little baby either way.

01-30-2006, 07:45 AM	#22
Reesie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 374	Thank you so much for your encouragement. It doesn't matter to me that her ears aren't erect. She was 5 pounds when she was 3 months old so she probably will be larger, but we have a very active family and I'm afraid that a very small baby would scare me. She was the last puppy when we saw her and just couldn't resist. We also have a Cairnpoo Terrier who is 16 years old who has been the love of our lives - She's not real happen with the new addition, but she is very protecting of her when other dogs are around. Would you suggest us getting our baby a playmate?

01-30-2006, 12:00 PM	#27
lnovack YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 308	Due to inexperience, we picked our dear Gracie out. She has floppy ears, cottony coat, she weighs 9 pounds and she is a little too long. We did not know to ask to see the parents or that ears could be already up at 9 weeks or to what to look for in coat texture in a puppy. Having said all that, you would have to pry her out of my cold dead hands to get her from me! My husband and I are totally in love with her and she is our girl. She rules our hearts and our home, really. Our lives revolve around Gracie. So enjoy that baby and don't worry about her breeding. __________________ Gracie's Mama

01-30-2006, 02:23 PM	#30
wendybee BANNED! Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 966	my rosie is 11lb 3oz with standing up ears. she is of good breeding, when i went and got her i saw the mum and dad, mum was petite and dad was a right bruiser,it was the first litter they were so well looked after i just new i wanted one of there pups. so it doesnt really matter what size they are or if the ears are up or down if there not for showing i see it as there special lovely big squashy babies