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03-20-2021, 06:46 AM | #1 |
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| Need help from folks that understand Yorkies I want to start off by apologizing for the length of this post. I am so confused and need help from folks that understand Yorkies. I lost my precious 12-year-old Yorkie on Sep.11, 2020. She was not only my baby, my best friend but my constant companion. She was by my side at all times. She was there from a time of house full of 4 little boys to them growing into men, moving off to college leaving us empty nesters. She was a tough little girl. We didn't know she was sick until it was too late. She died of kidney failure. She had been for her well-check with normal bloodwork 7 months before. Also, our boxer mix who only knew life around Holly (She was 4 when we got him as a puppy) is grieving to the point of losing weight (our vet ran ALOT of test confirming the only thing wrong is he misses his Alpha Holly telling him what to do), and he is experiencing extreme separation anxiety. He has been put on medication for depression. Our vet told us to get him a bossy puppy like Holly because he is so skittish he needs an alpha. So began our search for the perfect Yorkie. We have spent months checking out breeders. Of course, there are 6month plus waiting list almost everywhere. We are on those waitlists, the shortest we are #21 and the longest #45. Then I came across a breeder on puppyfind.com. She is wonderful. She communicates everything. She has a 1lb 9-week old female puppy (we were concerned with her being so small, but her parents are 4 lb each. She isn't being sold as a teacup but everything I'm reading this morning sounds like she is) we were supposed to pick her up last night. The breeder called yesterday and said she had diarrhea. She took a stool sample to her vet and said she still had roundworms but it wasn't quite time for her last deworming. We decided to wait until morning to go pick her up. At 6;30am I received a text, she had been rushed to the vet. Results were her stomach flipped, According to the breeder, the vet said she caught it before it was too serious. She is still at the Vet. From what I've read this is life-threatening. My question is anyone's thoughts on this and should I back out of getting this sweet puppy. I have seen her. She is very tiny but beautiful and when I saw her she was very playful and seemed very smart. I just don't know what to do. I didn't intend on buying a teacup because I have read about health issues. If you were me, would you pass on this little one and wait for one on the waitlists? |
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03-20-2021, 09:05 AM | #2 |
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| I would most definitely NOT take this baby, stay on the waiting list for a healthy baby. Years back I went through what you're going through now with a grieving fur baby. I then had a pack of 3 females, all 3 years apart. The two older ones passed 6 months apart leaving the baby as the only fur baby. She was depressed, her lil clown personality was gone. I gave her 6 months to adjust to being an only fur child. 7 months later there were so changes so my quest started to find her a BFF. I found the perfect buddy, my girl was "the Diva" made that way from her two older sisters who babied and spoiled her, she was a very bossy lil gal. My concern was, she was always the baby, could she now be a momma. The puppy I found was a big girl at 8 weeks old, I knew this puppy would not be bossed around. I took her home, set her on the floor, when my grieving girl saw this puppy she ran to her like she was a long lost pal. It was love at first sight. She bonded with the puppy immediately, my lil clown was back and took over the role of the momma. So I do know what your Boxer is going through and his pain is your pain. But please do not rush into getting a sickly baby, as hard as it is, please wait for a healthy one and not a "so called" teacup (((hugs)))
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03-20-2021, 09:18 AM | #3 |
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| I’m very sorry about the loss of your beloved Holly. However, your question isn’t really a Yorkie question, it’s a healthy puppy question. First, as Joan said, there’s no such (official) thing as a “teacup” yorkie. A yorkie is either within AKC standard sizing for the breed or he/she isn’t. It sounds as though the pup in question probably will be, although it’s impossible to be certain with a nine week old pup. Second, the fact that the breeder in question was going to send you home with a nine week old pup, less than two pounds, is a big red flag. No breeder should be sending home a pup that age and size. I believe twelve weeks and two pounds is the standard for good breeders releasing pups. Third, the breeder telling you that the pup’s stomach “flipped” is not a diagnosis. You need to know exactly what is happening, in medical terms, to make an informed decision. If it were me, I would ask the breeder to authorize me to discuss the medical issue and prognosis directly with the vet. If the breeder or the vet refuses, that would not be a good sign. Again, I’m sorry for your loss, and I understand the difficulty of finding a puppy in the current pandemic environment, but be careful of causing yourself more heartache. |
03-20-2021, 11:03 AM | #4 |
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| I would never buy a yorkie from a breeder who clearly is breeding tiny dogs. This puppy sounds like she is off to a rough start......I would be VERY leery. The fact that breeder is selling a tiny 9 week old puppy is very telling about her breeding program. The story about her stomach sounds weird to me. Never heard of such a thing. If you have deep pockets and can live with a horrible outcome, go for it. If not, then RUN away. Puppyfind.com is not a place to look for a pup IMHO. I would suggest looking at the Yorkshire Terrier breed page .. they have a list of breeders. You can then look at the breeders first....then look for a puppy. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America
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03-20-2021, 12:56 PM | #5 | |
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My only other thought was some form of bloat, but I’ve never heard of that happening in such a young pup. Again, if it is the problem, I would guess it’s extremely serious. | |
03-20-2021, 02:30 PM | #6 | |
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03-20-2021, 04:23 PM | #7 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Definitely pass on this one pound puppy. No reputable breeder would place a sick puppy for a home. You the breeder are responsible for bringing these puppies into this world. Wait until you find your breeder first. And if it means a wait list so be it.
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03-20-2021, 05:01 PM | #8 |
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| I did some research via Google. It appears that some people do refer to “bloat” in dogs as “flipping” the stomach. Here’s an article about bloat in puppies. https://www.thesprucepets.com/bloated-puppy-2804919 Interestingly, bloat in puppies usually occurs in: (1) large and giant breed pups, (2) pups that are anxious, irritable, and/or nervous , and (3) pups that are poorly socialized and/or aggressive. Obviously, the little girl in this case is not a large or giant breed so, if bloat is the problem, that’s another red flag against the breeder. |
03-21-2021, 05:30 AM | #9 |
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03-21-2021, 08:18 AM | #10 | |
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That said, I certainly wouldn’t recommend anyone paying for this poor little puppy. Whoever has her, if she survives, is probably going to have huge medical bills in their future. | |
03-21-2021, 10:15 AM | #11 |
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| One thing I have learned in rescue: "You cannot save them all". It hurts me to say no and to walk away from little ones that need help, but for my own mental health it is necessary. As for this one, no one is probably going to know....that puppy very well may be dead by now. Anyone who breeds puppies the way this one apparently has, is not going to tell the truth and I am sure won't spend the money necessary to help the puppy with proper veterinary help. I suspect there is much more to the story than a "flipped stomach". Googling and trying to figure it out is a waste of time.
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03-21-2021, 10:17 AM | #12 |
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| @BluebellsIf you are currently a rescuer and have the means, why not just message the OP and ask her to forward your contact information to the breeder just in case she finds she cannot help that puppy. Then, let it go. Either she accepts help if needed or she doesn't. If the OP buys the puppy, then perhaps she will come back and let us know how things are. I noted that she posted in 2010 one time but none since so I don't know that she will be back. who knows?
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03-21-2021, 10:56 AM | #13 |
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| No reputable breeder will sell you a pup under 12 weeks old so that is a huge red flag!
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03-21-2021, 12:09 PM | #14 |
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| Thank you all for all the comments. I have an Update, I just heard the puppy is still at the emergency vet and it doesn't look like she is going to make it. This makes me so sad. Poor little puppy. I realize finding a healthy puppy is not something to rush. I will wait for the right Yorkie puppy at the right time. I would love any advice on choosing a reputable breeder or if you know a reputable breeder in North Carolina. |
03-21-2021, 12:19 PM | #15 | |
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I don't know any breeders I would trust in NC but as mentioned above, I would look to see if the YTCA has any listed.
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