Got a plethora of "what if" and moral related questions(not a serious question)

[FlyingNimbus]

Okay so I decided to open more about myself and my love for my dog.

So as some of you may know. My little one is called Maggie(short for Magnolia to those who knew of me from the very beginning), I had adopted her with the help of my family last year around spring/summer time after falling in love with her. I think she might be part chihuahua, not sure. She has become what I have come to consider my "best friend"(even considering people in it)


She has been improving on what I feel is like a monthly basis on behavioural skills, temperaments and even learning some very simple tricks. I have no clue what she is but I can guess what is likely in her blood. I want a thorough genetic testing done on her to learn more about her.

I want to learn much much more about dogs and one day when I feel less shy/timid I want to work with the community.

I want to learn everything I can learn about dogs, all about diseases, hereditary illness, etc.


I know this may not be the best place to talk about it as this is a yorkie forum but for general thoughts/opinion I thought I would inquire.


People seem to hate the idea of crossbreeding and what I get from it, trying to make new breeds seems like no bueno because of bad breeding practices, potential problems arising from poor breeding, etc.


But I was wondering... if someone wanted to make an entirely new different breed for a few purposes other than profit. Simply being just because they wanted to succesfully create a new breed, would that be frowned upon? Especially if they go along by the book i.e. do genetic testing for parents to make sure no problems arise, prioritize success over monetary return. For the purpose of creating something in resemblance to a loved companion, for the purpose of being a what I'd consider the best "companion animal". (to my opinion)


In said breeding prioritizing health/longevity, personality/performance, looks. One of the things I would love in an ideal world is a dog that when it's older it's still able to function properly/decently. Still has sight, hearing, isn't in pain and can pass on, on it's own peacefully and painlessly....

I want to know if it's possible to create a new breed without any hiccups.

If someone was willing to put their time and effort to create something beautiful, and efficient in the sense of a much better quality of life. Sometimes.... I look at some dog breeds and question myself why they were even made like that.... like ones who out of the womb are supposed to be hard of breathing...
or the ones who over a short span of time end up passing on in a very degrading and painful way....


Some of this came up as the other day I was in a mall with a relative and we were looking at dogs for adoption in an adoption center inside said mall, in said center I saw a beautiful and somewhat shy but friendly great dane. Looked just like scooby doo... and then my mind wandered off to my previous neighbor's dog which passed away 3 years ago, as well as the ones some of my acquaintances have had, and what it feels like is every great dane I have heard of has basically only ever lived 6-7 years, 8 if lucky... all degraded rapidly, and died in what feels like a not so happy ending to the story of their lives....

Maybe my ideas are misplaced, maybe I am missing the bigger picture, but is it bad to have a dream of creating or helping create a breed with the least amount of problems in general, longest life span, a good overall disposition(breed standard).

Some of this comes from some rather sad news my friends had and I guess I am a tad sensitive.


By the way for anyone possibly taking this as serious talk, it isn't overly serious. I have no intention on doing such a thing for the time being simply being because I would first like to be in a place of life before I can accomplish any such similar feats.


By the way I don't mean the idea of creating a designer breed or a "crossbreed", I see from my mothers dog as to why it's not the best idea. However by this I simply mean I don't mean having similar practices.

If ever came a time I could even possibly do such things I would want to create a dog that looks like my little Magnolia, and similar personality. I love that she is so calm and would rather be nestled right by your side.


If in the off chance I have upset anyone I do apologize I just been juggling this in my head, rest assured I don't have any plans to do such a thing in the near future, and my dog is spayed.

[Lovetodream88]

Good reputable breeding is suppossed to take the best of the best of that breed to make healthy pups. The problem is there are very few reputable breeders and more bad breeders and puppy mills so we have more unhealthy dogs. It is actually very rare that a dog will peafully pass on their own. When a dog starts getting in pain and suffering it is best to be kind and put them to sleep and not continue to let them suffer. Most breeds that have terrible health issues even when bred perfectly it’s due to the standards like to have a German Shepard that is show winning normally has a terrible time walking because of what the show standard has done to the breed. Sadly show standards are not often what is best for the dog. People have also bred to make these terrible changes in the bred. Smaller dogs have a much longer life span then giant breeds and that is even if they are bred perfectly.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Good reputable breeding is suppossed to take the best of the best of that breed to make healthy pups. The problem is there are very few reputable breeders and more bad breeders and puppy mills so we have more unhealthy dogs. It is actually very rare that a dog will peafully pass on their own. When a dog starts getting in pain and suffering it is best to be kind and put them to sleep and not continue to let them suffer. Most breeds that have terrible health issues even when bred perfectly it’s due to the standards like to have a German Shepard that is show winning normally has a terrible time walking because of what the show standard has done to the breed. Sadly show standards are not often what is best for the dog. People have also bred to make these terrible changes in the bred. Smaller dogs have a much longer life span then giant breeds and that is even if they are bred perfectly.

Exactly. I personally feel majority of large dog breeds are breeds that really shouldn't even happen like the great danes, mastiffs, bulldogs, anything with a pushed up nose, anything with too long legs, actually a lot of the larger breeds in general.

What I would like to see is the "ideal" dog breed. Yorkies, chihuahuas, etc are in my opinion a good breed. Many live long lives, and if well bred do not suffer from the practices. Thing is, in nature problems like these don't really happen because anything with too many problems would likely not even make it past the first year.


I agree wholeheartedly with your comment by the way. Before maggie I wasn't just looking for yorkies, I was also looking for affenpinschers, and brussels griffon both which are essentially non-existent in the east coast.


I also love the idea of smaller dogs chihuahua sized but I feel I shouldn't actively pursue anything less than 5-6 pounds because the smaller the dog, the more fragile it is in means of bone density/structure. A good standard imho is a dog between 5-12pounds. Small enough to be a lapdog, big enough not to be fragile enough that even it jumping off a foot from the couch won't cause it any damage. Or the idea of a lean dog, sturdy build, small in stature, somewhat active, short to medium coat(preferably shedding), generally calm, friendly and okay with older or gentle children. Tbh this is what I feel would work best. Possibly a dog with a purpose like ratting, companionship, or a mix of those.

I don't very care much for dog shows and the idea of docking tails and/or ears really irks me.

I also don't like dogs having dewclaws but they do serve some purpose....

[FlyingNimbus]

Oh I accidentally put this thread in general training.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by FlyingNimbus

Exactly. I personally feel majority of large dog breeds are breeds that really shouldn't even happen like the great danes, mastiffs, bulldogs, anything with a pushed up nose, anything with too long legs, actually a lot of the larger breeds in general.

What I would like to see is the "ideal" dog breed. Yorkies, chihuahuas, etc are in my opinion a good breed. Many live long lives, and if well bred do not suffer from the practices. Thing is, in nature problems like these don't really happen because anything with too many problems would likely not even make it past the first year.


I agree wholeheartedly with your comment by the way. Before maggie I wasn't just looking for yorkies, I was also looking for affenpinschers, and brussels griffon both which are essentially non-existent in the east coast.


I also love the idea of smaller dogs chihuahua sized but I feel I shouldn't actively pursue anything less than 5-6 pounds because the smaller the dog, the more fragile it is in means of bone density/structure. A good standard imho is a dog between 5-12pounds. Small enough to be a lapdog, big enough not to be fragile enough that even it jumping off a foot from the couch won't cause it any damage. Or the idea of a lean dog, sturdy build, small in stature, somewhat active, short to medium coat(preferably shedding), generally calm, friendly and okay with older or gentle children. Tbh this is what I feel would work best. Possibly a dog with a purpose like ratting, companionship, or a mix of those.

I don't very care much for dog shows and the idea of docking tails and/or ears really irks me.

I also don't like dogs having dewclaws but they do serve some purpose....

Well see that’s your opinion there are people with the opinion that Great Danes or other breeds even if they don’t live long they still love the breed and has a perpose. I personally am not a fan of dogs that shed or fur. I prefer Yorkies because they have no undercoat or fur their hair is like human hair and they don’t shed so there isn’t hair everywhere. That’s why we have so many breeds so there is something for people of all opinions. Dew claws used to be needed in the wild but now are useless.

[FlyingNimbus]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Well see that’s your opinion there are people with the opinion that Great Danes or other breeds even if they don’t live long they still love the breed and has a perpose. I personally am not a fan of dogs that shed or fur. I prefer Yorkies because they have no undercoat or fur their hair is like human hair and they don’t shed so there isn’t hair everywhere. That’s why we have so many breeds so there is something for people of all opinions. Dew claws used to be needed in the wild but now are useless.

True I guess I have mixed feelings. Yeah dew claws are pointless.