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Now that I've sufficiently woken up, I can say, even though I'm in SHOCK about what is happening with your neighbor, that husband has researched security cameras for years. It initially was for our vehicle that was parked on the side people from the city's convention center walked by. I can ask him, if you want. I know the one we bought is just for our peace of mind when we go out of town, but I know he has a particular one in mind. He's a tech and he lives, breathes, and eats tech. His whole thing was one that could be hidden. I'm glad this guy isn't violent. Until now, the worst neighbor I've ever heard of can't even touch this guy. What a true piece of filth. I have nothing else to say but to sympathize. I'm also sorry you have to always be on constant guard. I spoke to my husband about putting a call into HOA and he's actually wanting to do something you're trying to do. Catch it on camera so we won't sound like we just want to complain. I have a note to call into the city police to see what my options are. I think husband will be talking to him sometime soon, too. He's agreed that it's just gone on long enough. | |
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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I began using an auto-open umbrella during walks after a large, aggressive Dalmatian rushed from nowhere and grabbed my Yorkie, Jilly, up in its jaws. And it stalked us all the way down the block afterward as we headed home to the car and emergency vet, even though I repeatedly threatened it with a raised walking stick I'd taken with me for the first time that day and had used it to beat the dog off her to allow us to get away from it. After that vicious attack, I realized I needed something to intimidate approaching dogs and my trusty auto-open umbrella has done the trick. Walking sticks are just that - thin sticks and not really too worrying to dogs unless they are close enough for you to threaten to hit them with it. Even then, a dog who has never been hit usually won't react to just a raised stick unless your very aggressive body attitude and eye stare can serve to warn him off. But a big, mysteriously enlarging umbrella a dog can't see through and assumes is a huge, solid object usually intimidates dogs that have an interest in approaching you. Of course it can't prevent the highly dominant, aggressive dog interested only in attacking or the sudden, unseen dog coming from out of the bushes or from behind but those you can see coming are usually suddenly unsure about the rapidly whooshing open umbrella before you. And they can usually shield the dog from actually getting to whomever is behind them while you yell for help or get to safety during an actual attack attempt. Over time, dogs quickly learn you will always have it and whoosh it open if they approach you and oncoming dogs just tend to give you a wide berth or go the other way.
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The dog would be out during the day(sometimes even if it rains) and would bark all the time over anything... According to my mom, the dog came up to her and was friendly one moment and then in an instant snapped. I wonder if it was the first time that's happened. (That he got into our yard). When we called the cops (the cop did a half-butt attempt) the guy(or woman) claimed to not own any dog-- yet the dogs been seen in his/her yard almost daily at the time, and now we still see it there. Of course we managed to record it this time. But I wonder if the umbrella trick would work on him/her. I used to feel bad for pitbulls(as they're all not bad) but at the same time I just don't think we should continue to breed something that has the potential to be used as a "tool" for guarding, or better explained as a tool for attacking.... I don't particularly have anything against the owners(who own such breeds) but if the dog who was trained to be a guard dog managed to escape it could wreak havoc and cause major damage... I don't think we should put them down either; I just think we should reduce them and make a law or something that would be aimed specifically at breeds that have the tendency to be used for that to be more highly monitored and regulated.. kind of like how they do with guns over here. Over here if you own a gun the cops would probably know(maybe this is an error but it seems like there is a higher chance for them to know). I think they should be made to keep record of who sold what to who and there should be special license just to buy a dog like that with someone coming to check the dog/home 2x a year(unannounced) to make sure no foul play is taking course. I say this because while yes not everyone who owns a dog like that is a bad person or wants them for dubious reasons; it only takes one person to screw it up(accidentally or otherwise) for a potentially dangerous situation to occur. As a child, a similar thing occurred. I lived at the time in a not so well off neighborhood and there were people who had these dogs lose in their front yards(fenced) or they were tied to a stake on the ground which had they gotten loose -- I or some other kid(at the time I was really small) could have gotten seriously hurt. They're not generally bad dogs, just there are people out there who own them and use them for really bad reasons... some even purposely breed them. But I am not 100% sure an umbrella would do much. I kind of wonder. | |
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Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oakland County MI
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| ![]() are these rental townhomes or do you each own your place. how old is the man and what type of dog and how much does it weigh. sorry for my questions but i don't think you said that on this thread
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I generally do not like or condone violence; but if I was in a situation I had an umbrella I'd use it in the same manner that was explained. Just kind of questioning it's efficiency with persistent animals. I kind of think it might work the way a vacuum cleaner works on dogs. Our dog used to be scared of the vacuum cleaner and would try to chase it or bark constantly at it. On one side it's a tad funny because it's the same as being afraid of a mop- but on the other side I get it because they don't know what it is, what it does. They just hear the loud noise and see the movement and get scared. Our dog is oblivious to it now though. I don't know how it happened but she just doesn't care about it anymore. - To further clarify, I mean I only find it a tad funny because to us it's something harmless, insignificant like a fly or something. But then I know it's bad so I got mixed feelings because I know it causes stress so in the end it also makes me sad. Last edited by FlyingNimbus; 04-26-2017 at 07:45 PM. | |
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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I don't doubt for a second that I saved little Jilly's life thanks to my tool and determination and after her surgery and rehab, I began to look for a deterrent so we could walk with a sense of security, which a whooshing-open umbrella has been for me and others who've confidently tried it. Approaching dogs fixating on Jilly during our subsequent walks quickly lost interest when the big umbrella opened suddenly before us! Nothing is 100% when a vicious dog is bent on attack but a whooshing-open umbrella as a deterrent for OP's scary neighbor's rambunctious, unruly dog and other readers' unwanted dog approaches might generally help them avoid bad situations, as it has me when I've needed it.
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I have a very young niece, and I can just imagine what would happen if a dog got into our yard if she happened to be playing in it. Like had my niece been in the yard instead of the dog... I can see how it would all end, and I frankly would not sit idly by and let some POS get away with something like that. There are innocent people in this neighborhood, children even who probably have no clue about this person or their dog. I know there's something wrong with them because my friends' brother went to check out their meter (Idk he works for the electric company- he mentioned he had to check this little meter that's on the front of the house) and the guy/woman just called the cops on him several times. Even after he's been there enough times to be recognized, and he's always wearing uniform while doing it. Not sure if he has a special car as well. But he also said his coworkers went to drop in mail once and the guy and the lady freaked out. When the cops came they claimed they got some PTSD. None of them have been in the military, and while there are other things that could happen-- still we pretty much all doubt it as he mentioned other stuff as well. But regardless of what he /she have it gives no excuse to take a dog leave it out all day long in the cold, in the rain, if its too hot, etc. Just because you want protection. Like we live in the suburbs, this neighborhood has no crime other than the kids who stole my box turtle and were stealing animals back then... I know a lot of the neighbors throughout the whole neighborhood and nothing ever happens here.... The worse that happens were those kids(well now tech. they're adults), and a few people who called for an EMT(apparently heart attacks and other kinds of things). There's a lot of kids here though, some are old enough to be unattended but not old enough to fight off a dog that size. I am saddened to hear(well know) that you and your Jilly went through all of this though. I am sure we can find things that scare the average dog that would help as a deterrent... Would be nice if they made stun guns that worked on medium to big dogs. That don't hurt the dog but would allow you to get away quickly. Still mace is the only thing I can think of but being me I fear of accidentally spraying myself in panic. So now I am blind and an easy target. | |
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Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | ![]() LMBOoooooo! Omg, that was the *best* answer ever, and it just went unnoticed! Taylor, that was just awesome. Turning on the sprinklers is just an outstanding idea. Make sure you have a proper spray sprinkler (not drip) and aim it correctly, then BAM. Love it.
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| ![]() I think that would be a great idea for the occasional enthusiastic jokester but worry it might set off this study in maniacal gotcha. Since this nutjob has come into her home and stolen DRUGS, among his other scary behavior, I wonder if he'd stop at monkey-wrenching her sprinkler system in the night in retaliation for something that he could perceive as attempts to humiliate him in public. Simply opening an umbrella as a dog approaches has never ticked off anyone.
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♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas
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| ![]() Did I miss it or have you taken your documentation of your neighbor's harassment to your HOA for mediation, a sit-down between you two and their third party mediator, with your videos and complaints fully voiced?
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YT Addict Join Date: May 2017 Location: Wenatchee, WA USA
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| ![]() We have generally had good luck with neighbors, but I noted your comment on the person possible being a stoner. We did have a neighbor about 30 years ago who had been home on disability and was on pain medications. After he was better, he still didn't want to go back to work as he was close to retirement. The problem was, in order to justify continued disability leave payments he had to still require medical care. He still filled the prescriptions and TOOK the pills. He had a real change in personality and became a real problem. He didn't have enough to do and his wife wanted him out of the house, so the neighbors became his target. With drug influence it's pretty tricky. We moved and one time when we went back to visit we found out his wife left him and he came out as we were visiting in our old neighborhood and apologized to my husband for his behavior. We also had a neighbor whose job was to clean up their horse-size dog poop. He'd fling it over the fence into the back of our property. We filled a bucket a couple of times and returned it to his yard. But the solution was a letter explaining this was not acceptable. I was positive his wife did not know his technique and we could almost hear the conversation when she found out. We had a chuckle imagining the conversation and the poop stopped flying over the fence. Poop was easier to deal with than drug induced behavior/personality changes. I would avoid any retaliation type behaviors because if and when you will likely seek assistance, you need to be above reproach. I would seek assistance from the HOA first and talk to a community officer at the Police Dept for advice and see what they can offer. If his dog is aggressive, you might also get some relief from your local animal control service. Last edited by BayleighL; 06-19-2017 at 07:41 PM. |
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