Update and anyone with yorkie betw 3-5lbs adult size?

[lovestiny]

I have two yorkies- my girl was the runt of the litter and fully grown at 3.7 pounds...my boy, (learned so much an bought from amazing show lines who are wonderful and rarely sell pups), is 7 months and 4.2 pounds, still growing, but also the runt. I love my runts of the litters lol!

[LorraineHarper]

I would not buy from a breeder that used dams that small. Under 5 lbs is extremely risky. Even though your puppy is from the larger dam, he still breeds that tiny girl. Poor thing. I have a recent addition to our family, Bindi, who is a backyard breeder rescue. She is fat now, and I have no idea of her weight, but she is 1" shorter than Toto (who is almost 5 lbs), 2" shorter than Uni (who is about 7 lbs). At her ideal weight she should be in the 4 lb range. I could never imagine her being bred at her size. Yet she was bred again and again, until she was too old, and her "owners" didn't want her anymore. I can't image one smaller than Bindi being bred. That just sickens me.

I agree ... but am in this situation right now and my Marie is born next month.
I have to just hope that all will be okay. I do take all responsibilities that follows.
The other breeders in my area raised a red flag due to the fact they had so many different breeds. I don't wanna get into import dogs either...

Just to clarify again, Marie's mom is 5lbs and the dad is 3lbs.
It was the previous litter that the mom was smaller. I hope my chances of a healthy Marie is higher since it's a different mom.

[lovestiny]

Gently saying this, I think the concern is more about supporting a breeder who has questionable breeding ethics, not your particular chosen litter. First time I around, I didn't know as much and was in same boat.

[LorraineHarper]

I don't know much about breeding yorkies and I'm a new yorkie mum however I do know that surely weight shouldn't matter. And how come people estimate potential full weights? I saw my Addies mum and dad, dad was the heaviest and weighs 3.8lbs. Addie is 12 weeks old and is currently already 3lbs. So not likely to be mum and dads size.
Although mum and dad were small they seem super healthy

I'll tell you my story
Boss of my boyfriend has 2 chihuahua's. They were long hair and very cute. I went through a "I really want a chihuahua" phase. My boyfriend said "okay". I did my research on chihuahua's and then came across yorkies and was absolutely sure that a yorkie is THE ONE. It's that love at first sight feeling And seeing yorkies in the parks was the most exciting feeling! So going through a "I really want a yorkie" phase, my boyfriend said "okay". I started obsessing about how to care for a yorkie, what I need, where to get them etc... I didn't care prior about the size as I JUST WANTED A YORKIE and would move heaven and earth to find one

Where I live, pet stores are not allowed to sell pets like dogs and cats except for turtles, bunnies, hamsters, fish, stuff like that. It's been more than a year I been keeping an eye on breeders and e-mailing. This one is the only one that only breeds yorkies that lives close by cause I like keeping in touch with the person where I get my puppy from before and after. So with this breeder we discussed many things (and where he shared who the parents was, their personality, size, the bloodline..) and this is how I ended up reserving a baby girl. The family I spoke to does breed as a hobby (if this is good or bad idk but they seem very dedicated to what they do and show that in their pride of their babies). Now I don't know if the family is the "perfect breeder" but so far that family seems the most reliable out of all the others.

So here I am now, hoping and praying all goes well when Marie is born. They don't charge more than any other breeders around. Here a yorkie is generally between 500-800euro. He just explained the sizes and that's how I found out that they do keep it around 5lbs. Some bigger some smaller - that's the surprise.
Other breeders has little to no info of the parents as if it's a dog farm which I certainly won't support and is a major red flag for me.

[LorraineHarper]

Gently saying this, I think the concern is more about supporting a breeder who has questionable breeding ethics, not your particular chosen litter. First time I around, I didn't know as much and was in same boat.

I know... At the time, I had no clue about all the aspects of breeding. Heck, it's recently I found out that the mom has to be larger than the dad. I been looking at others and still is the only one I see that is most ethical compared to the others.

[Chewie1]

Chewie is 4.5 Months and is weighing in at a whopping 5.5lbs. I think I'm going to need a bigger boat!

[canana]

Originally Posted by LorraineHarper

Yes it is the same breeder, lady Jane. You have a point but the mom of Marie is 5lbs which should be okay. And I did my researched on others that may breed "bigger" yorkies but I am sure their were puppy mills so I rather have a family raised puppy even if their choice of yorkies are below 5lbs. I must say that these were also cheaper so in my opinion even they breed smaller yorkies, they were the best out of all the choices I had

I feel compelled to chime in and support Lady Jane's points. I don't know her personally, but have read enough of her posts to know that she has seen it all when it comes to rejected puppies, very ill puppies, and saving rescues. Her persistence in informing you is to only to help you become more knowledgeable and prevent the risk of getting a poorly bred puppy.

Key word is risk. You mentioned that this puppy's momma is 5 lbs and you can only hope that the puppy is healthy. The thing is, all the high-risk issues Yorkies came from poor breeding. Heredity issues don't cut off - they are carried on from generation to generation. That's why the bloodline is really important. That's why no reputable breeder would 'pollute' their bloodline by breeding one that's too small. Your Marie's 5 lb momma could have came from a 2.5lb parent or grandparent or great grand parent. By 'hoping and praying' your puppy will be healthy...well, then you're taking the risk by purchasing from an unethical breeder who has bred 2.5 lb Yorkies.

It's true any type of puppy can be a risk. BUT, if you take the time to find a good breeder, who has never bred their Yorkies under 5 lbs, that risk (in my opinion) is significantly reduced. At the very least, the breeder cares about the breed and not just the money. I mean, it's one thing to buy a puppy unknowingly. It's another thing to buy a puppy knowing there's a higher risk, but just hoping for the best anyway...

At the end of the day, it's your obviously your choice. I would take more time to find a good reputable breeder with zero red flags. Your puppy will be with you for many many years. What's another year to find a reputable breeder? To me, even if you have to go farther, it really is worth it in the long run. For me, I wouldn't limit myself to the choices of bad breeder, bad breeder, and not-as-bad-but-no-other-option breeder.

One last note (sorry for the lengthy response), most backyard breeders love their dogs. Whether or not they're doing the right thing, that's a different story. So, "family-raised" actually doesn't mean anything if they have poor breeding practices.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by canana

I feel compelled to chime in and support Lady Jane's points. I don't know her personally, but have read enough of her posts to know that she has seen it all when it comes to rejected puppies, very ill puppies, and saving rescues. Her persistence in informing you is to only to help you become more knowledgeable and prevent the risk of getting a poorly bred puppy.

Key word is risk. You mentioned that this puppy's momma is 5 lbs and you can only hope that the puppy is healthy. The thing is, all the high-risk issues Yorkies came from poor breeding. Heredity issues don't cut off - they are carried on from generation to generation. That's why the bloodline is really important. That's why no reputable breeder would 'pollute' their bloodline by breeding one that's too small. Your Marie's 5 lb momma could have came from a 2.5lb parent or grandparent or great grand parent. By 'hoping and praying' your puppy will be healthy...well, then you're taking the risk by purchasing from an unethical breeder who has bred 2.5 lb Yorkies.

It's true any type of puppy can be a risk. BUT, if you take the time to find a good breeder, who has never bred their Yorkies under 5 lbs, that risk (in my opinion) is significantly reduced. At the very least, the breeder cares about the breed and not just the money. I mean, it's one thing to buy a puppy unknowingly. It's another thing to buy a puppy knowing there's a higher risk, but just hoping for the best anyway...

At the end of the day, it's your obviously your choice. I would take more time to find a good reputable breeder with zero red flags. Your puppy will be with you for many many years. What's another year to find a reputable breeder? To me, even if you have to go farther, it really is worth it in the long run. For me, I wouldn't limit myself to the choices of bad breeder, bad breeder, and not-as-bad-but-no-other-option breeder.

One last note (sorry for the lengthy response), most backyard breeders love their dogs. Whether or not they're doing the right thing, that's a different story. So, "family-raised" actually doesn't mean anything if they have poor breeding practices.

Yeah, that, all of that! Very well thought out post.

OP, have you looked at the Belgium breed club? I found websites, but not in English so I couldn't read them. It might be a good place to look for a reputable breeder.

[TxVicki]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Yeah, that, all of that! Very well thought out post.

OP, have you looked at the Belgium breed club? I found websites, but not in English so I couldn't read them. It might be a good place to look for a reputable breeder.

WELL it looks as if the OP is no longer a member, it now say's Inactive Account.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by TxVicki

WELL it looks as if the OP is no longer a member, it now say's Inactive Account.

Wow....well, you can lead a horse to water; but, you can't make them drink it.

[Samma23]

Originally Posted by LorraineHarper

I'll tell you my story
Boss of my boyfriend has 2 chihuahua's. They were long hair and very cute. I went through a "I really want a chihuahua" phase. My boyfriend said "okay". I did my research on chihuahua's and then came across yorkies and was absolutely sure that a yorkie is THE ONE. It's that love at first sight feeling And seeing yorkies in the parks was the most exciting feeling! So going through a "I really want a yorkie" phase, my boyfriend said "okay". I started obsessing about how to care for a yorkie, what I need, where to get them etc... I didn't care prior about the size as I JUST WANTED A YORKIE and would move heaven and earth to find one

I did the same. I looked up breeds and as soon as I saw the yorkie I came obsessed too. Now I have my lil Addie and I'm obsessed even more. Everything about her is perfect (to me )

Looking forward to seeing piccys of your baby x