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DBlain · 01-07-2016, 11:22 AM

Much to our surprise Lola (5 yrs old) had an attack of pancreatitis right before Christmas. We were lucky and caught it quick and after just three days her blood count numbers were normal and she was feeling OK. We always thought she had an iron stomach. She did get table scraps on occasion but only what we thought would be good for her like unseasoned, chicken, salmon, and scrambled eggs. Occasionally she would get a whisper of a piece of crisp bacon, we hardly ever gave her cheese or anything processed, like lunch meat or ham and never stuff like pizza or mac and cheese or anything that was marinated or came out of a box like when my husband would eat a frozen hungry man dinner. We only gave her what we thought were high quality dog treats (only made in USA) and she ate regular dry dog food with about a 15% fat. But still she got it

Now her diet is changed to Royal Canine low fat dry kibble, which she eats with no problem but she is used to getting treats after she goes potty and when she get's her hair done. so far I give her steamed chicken and sweet potato, flavored with low sodium organic chicken broth. I bought some very tiny low fat milk type bones (I always throw her one when I leave the house. I also found a low fat chicken jerky. She does not like carrots, apples, bananas, or cheerios, but I have started dipping cheerios in the chicken broth and she will eat that. I also baked up some little cookie size patties using the low fat canned food I got at the vet, she like that but it crumbles easily. I was thinking of adding some oatmeal or whole wheat flower and maybe some shredded chicken to the canned food and try baking that. But I am really looking for some dry type treats that taste like meat. Have any of you found any thing like that is low fat.

I was also thinking about getting food dehydrator (I think that is what it is called to make my own chicken and sweet potato jerky, any advice on that would be appreciated.

Thanks for any information you have on treating your dog after an attack of Pancreatitis.

OwnedByJezebel · 01-07-2016, 11:55 AM

Some here have baked canned prescription food to make treats.

Mayzoo · 01-07-2016, 12:10 PM

These are mainly low to no fat ingredients are pretty easy to make. Of course you can make your own "baby food" too, but does not cost too much so when I make these, I just buy it usually. Mario wholeheartedly approves by the way

I made a chewy one a while back using cream of wheat, so they do not all have to be crunchy either (http://www.sheknows.com/pets-and-ani...omemade-treats).

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...with+baby+food (mostly crunchy)

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...with+baby+food (chewy version)

dottiesyrky · 01-07-2016, 12:30 PM

I understand that it is nice to give treats on occasions when they deserve them or are in the habit of getting them.
For months after my dog had the bout of P I just kept to the prescription low fat diet. As time went by and the numbers were good, I added small amounts of lean home cooked chicken breast and plain well boiled rice to his kibble. I gave no treats then. However, later, I found a small chewy soft treat that can be broken into tiny pieces that he loves, and these have not caused any issues. The treats are made by Cloud Star, and are called Tricky Training Chewy Treats. The main ingredient is chicken liver and they are made in the US, wheat and corn free.
If you go on the website you can get all the info.
These may not be every one's choice as they are only low fat, not fat free, but they are Real Treats if that is what you want. I probably give no more that four per day , and even break them into smaller pieces. As long as it is a treat my dog is not bothered by the size

Good luck and praying that Your baby stays well from now on.

DBlain · 01-07-2016, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky

I understand that it is nice to give treats on occasions when they deserve them or are in the habit of getting them.
For months after my dog had the bout of P I just kept to the prescription low fat diet. As time went by and the numbers were good, I added small amounts of lean home cooked chicken breast and plain well boiled rice to his kibble. I gave no treats then. However, later, I found a small chewy soft treat that can be broken into tiny pieces that he loves, and these have not caused any issues. The treats are made by Cloud Star, and are called Tricky Training Chewy Treats. The main ingredient is chicken liver and they are made in the US, wheat and corn free.
If you go on the website you can get all the info.
These may not be every one's choice as they are only low fat, not fat free, but they are Real Treats if that is what you want. I probably give no more that four per day , and even break them into smaller pieces. As long as it is a treat my dog is not bothered by the size

Good luck and praying that Your baby stays well from now on.

thanks, that is the type of info I am looking for, I have been meaning to message you back, she is eating her dry food well, it's just she is so used to getting her potty and top knot treat I hate to disappoint her. The poor thing has had her whole life turned upside down with not having any more salmon which we eat a lot of

patchesmom10 · 01-07-2016, 12:39 PM

I dehydrate Mac apples, sweet potatoes and carrots

dottiesyrky · 01-07-2016, 12:54 PM

Donna.
I know how you feel having to restrict Lola with only low fat food.
It is great that she likes it as it seems pretty boring. I felt so guilty just feeding the kibble and that it why I warily ventured into the unknown and added the chicken etc, and then these treats. There is also a pure dehydrated chicken breast treat called Pure Bites, and I fed that for a while...but it is very expensive, and he did not like that as much as the liver chews.
The prescription low fat kibble is really low fat, from 5-9 % fat, whereas most regular kibble has much more than that. If the dog has a sensitive pancreas the trigger could well be the relatively high fat content in good quality regular kibble.
It is hard to find any food other than the prescription that has such a low fat content.
I wonder if you, or any other mom with a P sensitive dog, have noticed the added hunger in their dogs? The low fat diet is not very satisfying and I have found my dog is always hungry! Tough to keep the weight down.

Mayzoo · 01-07-2016, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dottiesyrky

Donna.
I know how you feel having to restrict Lola with only low fat food.
It is great that she likes it as it seems pretty boring. I felt so guilty just feeding the kibble and that it why I warily ventured into the unknown and added the chicken etc, and then these treats. There is also a pure dehydrated chicken breast treat called Pure Bites, and I fed that for a while...but it is very expensive, and he did not like that as much as the liver chews.
The prescription low fat kibble is really low fat, from 5-9 % fat, whereas most regular kibble has much more than that. If the dog has a sensitive pancreas the trigger could well be the relatively high fat content in good quality regular kibble.
It is hard to find any food other than the prescription that has such a low fat content.
I wonder if you, or any other mom with a P sensitive dog, have noticed the added hunger in their dogs? The low fat diet is not very satisfying and I have found my dog is always hungry! Tough to keep the weight down.

Can you add coconut oil to the food to make it more satisfying? I have read that coconut is okay in small amounts for pancreatitis, but have never checked with a vet. Maybe you have already asked your vet?

DBlain · 01-07-2016, 01:09 PM

after you told me about the calorie difference I checked my old and new bag and boy you were right, the new stuff is just about half, I can't tell if Lola eats more or less now, I just put food in a bowl some days she eats a lot and then the next not so much, currently she does not weight problem so I don't worry.

I am sort of happy right now, I had bought some Milo's chicken jerky recipe treats because the bag said 3% fat, but when I got home I realized it said 3% min fat, so I started wondering what the max was, I called the number on the bag and the gal was so helpful she gave me the exact % of fat, turns out the exact amount is actually over 16% WOW, so she will not be getting that. It turns out Milos is owned by the same company that owns the brand Milk bones so she gave me the actual fat content on the little bones I give Lola now and recommended something they call trail mix, which is bag with a combination of soft and crunch treats, they have a 6.6% fat content, I am going to buy a bag of those for Lola. I was so impressed by the nice customer service I got on the phone.

dottiesyrky · 01-07-2016, 01:31 PM

I think the Milo's Kitchen chicken treats were recalled at one time. Don't know if they are ok now. Hope Lola likes the trail mix treats as the fat content sounds great.
Comparing fat content is a pain as one has to calculate the Dry Matter values to compare 'apples with apples.' If the foods have different moisture contents the % analyses are not directly comparable.
Thanks for the info on hunger, I can see that it is not possible to comment with her varied eating habits. Luckily you don't have a weight issue, so it doesn't matter.

DBlain · 01-07-2016, 01:38 PM

that's what my husband said the moist ones have more fat, but I am lucky Lola will eat a crunchy treat and even a milk bone, of the 4 yorkies I had before her none would eat a milkbone. Lola's teeth are fantastic I think it's because she will chew a dry bone.
I really think with Lola the salmon was one of the culprits, aside from her dog food and the dog treats she had more salmon than anything else because we thought it was good for her.

dottiesyrky · 01-07-2016, 02:07 PM

Your husband had the right idea! I worked out that the dry matter fat in the liver chewy treats was 6% as it was 30 % moisture, so that is ok with me.
If Lola enjoys crunchy foods and has good teeth, the trail mix sounds ideal. I have never seen this product but will look out for it. Always good to have alternatives.
What a well fed girl having so much salmon, but it is sad that it was her downfall. We try our best but are not always rewarded! I love salmon too, but have never fed any fish to my dog. Don't know why, but have always stuck to chicken or turkey!

Cherie6446 · 01-07-2016, 02:34 PM

Zoey gets Cherrios as treats. She has had P three times and vet said NO treats except for a few Cherrios. She loves them.

Shicks · 01-07-2016, 05:32 PM

I also play with dehydrated sweet potatoes, pineapple, chicken breast. So far mine likes it. I may try dehydrated oranges. Anyone have thoughts on that?

Kerryn915 · 01-07-2016, 09:40 PM

I love the fresh pet food that comes refrigerated and in a tube. It's ready to slice. Mine love it... It's also relatively low fat at 6g...I slice a small piece and cut it into tiny cubes and they go crazy for it.

01-07-2016, 11:22 AM	#1
DBlain Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oakland County MI Posts: 6,190	Any ideas for low or no fat treats? Much to our surprise Lola (5 yrs old) had an attack of pancreatitis right before Christmas. We were lucky and caught it quick and after just three days her blood count numbers were normal and she was feeling OK. We always thought she had an iron stomach. She did get table scraps on occasion but only what we thought would be good for her like unseasoned, chicken, salmon, and scrambled eggs. Occasionally she would get a whisper of a piece of crisp bacon, we hardly ever gave her cheese or anything processed, like lunch meat or ham and never stuff like pizza or mac and cheese or anything that was marinated or came out of a box like when my husband would eat a frozen hungry man dinner. We only gave her what we thought were high quality dog treats (only made in USA) and she ate regular dry dog food with about a 15% fat. But still she got it Now her diet is changed to Royal Canine low fat dry kibble, which she eats with no problem but she is used to getting treats after she goes potty and when she get's her hair done. so far I give her steamed chicken and sweet potato, flavored with low sodium organic chicken broth. I bought some very tiny low fat milk type bones (I always throw her one when I leave the house. I also found a low fat chicken jerky. She does not like carrots, apples, bananas, or cheerios, but I have started dipping cheerios in the chicken broth and she will eat that. I also baked up some little cookie size patties using the low fat canned food I got at the vet, she like that but it crumbles easily. I was thinking of adding some oatmeal or whole wheat flower and maybe some shredded chicken to the canned food and try baking that. But I am really looking for some dry type treats that taste like meat. Have any of you found any thing like that is low fat. I was also thinking about getting food dehydrator (I think that is what it is called to make my own chicken and sweet potato jerky, any advice on that would be appreciated. Thanks for any information you have on treating your dog after an attack of Pancreatitis. __________________ Lola my amazing little yorkie-pom Donna

01-07-2016, 11:55 AM	#2
OwnedByJezebel YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,921	Some here have baked canned prescription food to make treats. __________________ Life is merrier with a Yorkshire Terrier! Jezebel & Chuy ... RIP: Barkley Loosie & Sassy

01-07-2016, 12:10 PM	#3
Mayzoo YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Texas Posts: 534	These are mainly low to no fat ingredients are pretty easy to make. Of course you can make your own "baby food" too, but does not cost too much so when I make these, I just buy it usually. Mario wholeheartedly approves by the way I made a chewy one a while back using cream of wheat, so they do not all have to be crunchy either (http://www.sheknows.com/pets-and-ani...omemade-treats). https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...with+baby+food (mostly crunchy) https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#n...with+baby+food (chewy version) __________________ Mario was adopted May 2015. Now he is a service dog and brother to Bailey the Airdale mix Last edited by Mayzoo; 01-07-2016 at 12:13 PM.

01-07-2016, 12:30 PM	#4
dottiesyrky Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA Posts: 2,505	Low fat treats I understand that it is nice to give treats on occasions when they deserve them or are in the habit of getting them. For months after my dog had the bout of P I just kept to the prescription low fat diet. As time went by and the numbers were good, I added small amounts of lean home cooked chicken breast and plain well boiled rice to his kibble. I gave no treats then. However, later, I found a small chewy soft treat that can be broken into tiny pieces that he loves, and these have not caused any issues. The treats are made by Cloud Star, and are called Tricky Training Chewy Treats. The main ingredient is chicken liver and they are made in the US, wheat and corn free. If you go on the website you can get all the info. These may not be every one's choice as they are only low fat, not fat free, but they are Real Treats if that is what you want. I probably give no more that four per day , and even break them into smaller pieces. As long as it is a treat my dog is not bothered by the size Good luck and praying that Your baby stays well from now on. Last edited by dottiesyrky; 01-07-2016 at 12:33 PM.

01-07-2016, 12:39 PM	#6
patchesmom10 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: jefferson md Posts: 950	I dehydrate Mac apples, sweet potatoes and carrots __________________ Winnie and Macaroni too Patches rip furever in my

01-07-2016, 12:54 PM	#7
dottiesyrky Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA Posts: 2,505	Treats Donna. I know how you feel having to restrict Lola with only low fat food. It is great that she likes it as it seems pretty boring. I felt so guilty just feeding the kibble and that it why I warily ventured into the unknown and added the chicken etc, and then these treats. There is also a pure dehydrated chicken breast treat called Pure Bites, and I fed that for a while...but it is very expensive, and he did not like that as much as the liver chews. The prescription low fat kibble is really low fat, from 5-9 % fat, whereas most regular kibble has much more than that. If the dog has a sensitive pancreas the trigger could well be the relatively high fat content in good quality regular kibble. It is hard to find any food other than the prescription that has such a low fat content. I wonder if you, or any other mom with a P sensitive dog, have noticed the added hunger in their dogs? The low fat diet is not very satisfying and I have found my dog is always hungry! Tough to keep the weight down.

01-07-2016, 01:09 PM	#9
DBlain Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oakland County MI Posts: 6,190	after you told me about the calorie difference I checked my old and new bag and boy you were right, the new stuff is just about half, I can't tell if Lola eats more or less now, I just put food in a bowl some days she eats a lot and then the next not so much, currently she does not weight problem so I don't worry. I am sort of happy right now, I had bought some Milo's chicken jerky recipe treats because the bag said 3% fat, but when I got home I realized it said 3% min fat, so I started wondering what the max was, I called the number on the bag and the gal was so helpful she gave me the exact % of fat, turns out the exact amount is actually over 16% WOW, so she will not be getting that. It turns out Milos is owned by the same company that owns the brand Milk bones so she gave me the actual fat content on the little bones I give Lola now and recommended something they call trail mix, which is bag with a combination of soft and crunch treats, they have a 6.6% fat content, I am going to buy a bag of those for Lola. I was so impressed by the nice customer service I got on the phone. __________________ Lola my amazing little yorkie-pom Donna

01-07-2016, 01:31 PM	#10
dottiesyrky Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA Posts: 2,505	Lola I think the Milo's Kitchen chicken treats were recalled at one time. Don't know if they are ok now. Hope Lola likes the trail mix treats as the fat content sounds great. Comparing fat content is a pain as one has to calculate the Dry Matter values to compare 'apples with apples.' If the foods have different moisture contents the % analyses are not directly comparable. Thanks for the info on hunger, I can see that it is not possible to comment with her varied eating habits. Luckily you don't have a weight issue, so it doesn't matter.

01-07-2016, 01:38 PM	#11
DBlain Donating YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Oakland County MI Posts: 6,190	that's what my husband said the moist ones have more fat, but I am lucky Lola will eat a crunchy treat and even a milk bone, of the 4 yorkies I had before her none would eat a milkbone. Lola's teeth are fantastic I think it's because she will chew a dry bone. I really think with Lola the salmon was one of the culprits, aside from her dog food and the dog treats she had more salmon than anything else because we thought it was good for her. __________________ Lola my amazing little yorkie-pom Donna

01-07-2016, 02:07 PM	#12
dottiesyrky Donating YT Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: SW USA Posts: 2,505	Lola Your husband had the right idea! I worked out that the dry matter fat in the liver chewy treats was 6% as it was 30 % moisture, so that is ok with me. If Lola enjoys crunchy foods and has good teeth, the trail mix sounds ideal. I have never seen this product but will look out for it. Always good to have alternatives. What a well fed girl having so much salmon, but it is sad that it was her downfall. We try our best but are not always rewarded! I love salmon too, but have never fed any fish to my dog. Don't know why, but have always stuck to chicken or turkey!

01-07-2016, 02:34 PM	#13
Cherie6446 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: SoCA Posts: 1,895	Zoey gets Cherrios as treats. She has had P three times and vet said NO treats except for a few Cherrios. She loves them. __________________ RIP my darling little Gina

01-07-2016, 05:32 PM	#14
Shicks YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Friendsville Tn. Posts: 879 Blog Entries: 1	I also play with dehydrated sweet potatoes, pineapple, chicken breast. So far mine likes it. I may try dehydrated oranges. Anyone have thoughts on that? __________________ Yorkies makes us happy

01-07-2016, 09:40 PM	#15
Kerryn915 YT Addict Join Date: May 2014 Location: Fishkill, ny, USA Posts: 487	I love the fresh pet food that comes refrigerated and in a tube. It's ready to slice. Mine love it... It's also relatively low fat at 6g...I slice a small piece and cut it into tiny cubes and they go crazy for it.