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09-26-2015, 10:36 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Norfolk UK
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| The Big Yorkies I love nothing more than talking "GIRLS" ... As I said I have Three and Looking to buy another ... This is really where I need help ...Living in the Sticks is wonderful for the Girls ...With the Copse and the fields over the Lane , let alone a big garden with loads of Paths ... Now to my ASK ...How do you know when you go to Buy a Pup IF it will be the BIG one ???? My Misty and Poppy Looked Just the same size when we got them as Tilly did ... I know this as the pictures of the Pup in the "Boot" looks just the same and they were all 8 weeks to the day when we collected them ....I had Tilly Spayed as I had no intention of breeding her (or any come to that) I Had our Misty spayed 3 weeks ago ... Reason because when her second teeth came through ,the bottom teeth were slightly OVERSHOT ..So I would not Breed from Misty ...Poppy is so beautiful and ideal for breeding (just the once ...then I can keep the Girl pups myself ehehehh) But at 10 1/2 Months she is slighter than her Half sister ..I my opinion ,I do not want to breed a Small Yorky ... So How do I know without seeing the Parents ???? ...I did in the 70's breed AFGHAN HOUNDS ... But that was when I was married before and Tony is not keen on them at our age .... Val xx |
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09-27-2015, 03:05 AM | #2 |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | I think I'd ask to know the size history of the grandparents too - that should tell you a bit more about size history. At the same time though, there can always be anomalies with size...
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09-27-2015, 04:23 PM | #3 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| I always relied on my dogs pedigrees, going back at least 9 generations....and I still occasionally ended up with a "throw back" that matured into a "teapot", weighing in 11-16 lbs! When you are familiar with the lines you are breeding, and you continue breeding these same dogs, same lines, generation after generation, you have a pretty dependable road map of what to expect in your litters from any given breeding pair....it is in the blood. You get an occasional "throw back" or "out throw", but you pretty well know what you will get from a breeding pair. If you are breeding two dogs, and you can not confidently predict with 90%+ accuracy, what your litter, what the puppies, are going to look like, in MY pinion, you are playing Russian Roulette.....you are walking through a mine field with possible genetic issues. In MY opinion, it is an unforgivable sin against mankind, to produce puppies that you have NO idea what is MORE THAN LIKELY going to happen with organs/bones/joints/personalities, etc inside them, their livers, their muscle development, their bones and joint stability, eye sight, hearing, hearts, etc, etc, etc, that you then pander off on an unsuspecting soul that has fallen in love with this precious bundle of joy......that ends up either costing them a fortune to keep alive, or it costs them a fortune, only to have it die on them. Everyone looks for the "great deal on the puppy" the $500.00-$800.00 deal....but that does not cover the cost of producing a puppy for 10-14 weeks of age, that can be guaranteed by a breeder, to be healthy and happy and well adjusted and long lived. They may luck out and find such a baby, and it survives for 12-17 years in spite of the Russian Roulette approach to breeding, but it does not happen often. And when it fails, which is the majority of cases, the baby and the new puppy owners are the ones that suffer the heart ache and heart break. |
09-27-2015, 11:09 PM | #4 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Norfolk UK
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| I agree with you ...But What happens IF there are No Papers with the Pup .... Not everyone is KC registered ...How do you go on then ? X |
09-28-2015, 03:43 AM | #5 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | You can typically get a good idea on the size of a pup by the age of 6-8 weeks of age. From my own experience in breeding if a pup is 3-4 lbs at that age they tend to be a larger pup. Some times up to 8-9 lbs or larger. Also, I've always been told to look at the size of the front paws . . I guess the bigger the paw the bigger the pup will be. That is somewhat true with larger breeds but not sure if that is the same with toy breeds.
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09-29-2015, 04:51 AM | #6 |
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| Even with all the best info you can gather there is no guarantee of size. We recently carefully bred a 2.7 kg female with a 2.5 kg male and produced one male puppy that now weighs 4 kgs (or 8.8 lbs). He is absolutely beautiful but not standard for Europe (3.2 kg). Who cares. He is healthy and full of beans. Mother Nature does her thing and we can only marvel. |
09-29-2015, 10:45 AM | #7 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| I do not breed unregistered dogs. All my breeding stock have an impeccable background in their pedigree, from the best breeding lines. It is imperative that I am able to see what the line of dogs that has been produced from a specific pedigree/genetic linage, or I do not breed them. I go back a minimum of 9 generations....and actually, as I am counting in my head, that number "9" is the number of generations I went back 15 years ago.....so my mapping of lines and pedigrees goes back MUCH further. You start by using only the best pedigrees as your breeders, and that is what you will produce in your puppies. I am placing these babies in homes with people that have come to me with open hearts and unguarded souls....I will not sell babies that I do not know absolutely everything I can possibly know about their line, their pedigree, and what these babies will grow into.....of this, I am 99% sure (God is still involved in this, and He will knock you right down if you begin to think YOU alone are responsible for these precious souls!). My puppies are NOT second guesses, misfits, or "hopefuls"....they are produced from established blueprints of the best lines of Yorkies available. My puppies are NOT cheap, but I know, as do my owners, you will get two things from me, guaranteed.....First, you will get a breeder that follows you and that puppy for the rest of its life....Second, you will get a breeder that stands behind that baby's quality bloodlines.....if there are congenital genetic issues that are life threatening, I am there for that puppy and the family that has placed their complete trust in me. This is what ALL responsible, honest, trustworthy breeders do for their babies and their owners. If anyone is breeding and is not as completely knowledgeable about their lines and what they are producing, and standing behind what they are producing, then they are shortchanging their puppies, their reputation as a breeder, and the trusting people they are selling those questionable offspring to. |
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