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08-16-2015, 09:00 PM | #1 |
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| pectus excavatum and breeding Hi all! I would like my 2year old Yorkie to have one litter before I have her fixed. I understand that the first litter is usually small, Im hoping this is true? As I dont plan on selling the babies. She however has a slight convex sternum,it points outwards. Will this be a problem for her if she is pregnant? As I dont want to put her health at risk and would rather not go ahead with it If that is the case. Tia! Last edited by Minkles; 08-16-2015 at 09:01 PM. |
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08-17-2015, 01:48 AM | #2 |
YT 500 Club Member | The thing is, if you breed her you are carrying that gene on and then if that puppy grows up and you breed it it just carries a bad gene on . That doesn't seem fair to the dog. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
08-17-2015, 03:01 AM | #3 |
YT 1000 Club Member | I would say yes it would cause a problem. P.E. causes the chest to be sunken in, correct? How are your females organs located with this defect? I ask this because during pregnancy some organs get pushed up/in different areas where they normally wouldn't be. With the added issue of P.E. the pregnancy will cause more than what may be the normal amount of stress on your female's body and have extremely negative/fatal results. Have you spoken with your vet about the type of complications that may happen? Your vet should be able to easily answer these questions with his/her expertise. |
08-17-2015, 03:23 AM | #4 |
YT 1000 Club Member | My mistake, I see in your post you say she has P. Carinatum( pigeon chest/points outwards), but in your title it says P. Excavatum which is a different defect. Can you clarify which one it is for us? |
08-17-2015, 04:50 AM | #5 | |
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08-17-2015, 08:51 AM | #6 |
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| When you consider breeding, you always start out with the absolute BEST example possible. You should NEVER start out with defective dogs as breeding prospects. Breeders that have been breeding for many years, know their dogs and the lines they represent, their strengths and weaknesses, etc., can successfully and easily breed two dogs together that may have MINOR flaws in characteristics, that will correct the issue...but you should NEVER breed dogs with major flaws/deformities! You have to be an experienced, knowledgeable breeder when you start monkeying around with breeding dogs that are starting out with flaws, let alone structural deformities! A responsible breeder/person would never consider breeding a dog with a significant structural flaw/deformaty! There are certainly some flaws that can be corrected by breeding, but this takes YEARS of breeding, a THOROUGH knowledge of what lines you are putting together to correct faults.....I am not sure you have that experience. What lines are you breeding? The genetic patterns of the dogs you are thinking of breeding are set pretty firmly....you should only have to go back 9-11 generations of breeding these lines to ascertain what consistencies, strengths, and weaknesses you are more than likely to end up with. If you do not thoroughly assess all the dogs behind your breeding pair, you are taking a huge chance you will be producing defective puppies....especially since you are starting out with a pretty strong deformity. Then of course, you always ask yourself, is this litter important enough to put the life of your momma at risk. I ABSOLUTELY do not think it is. Don't ever start out with strong structural deformities/flaws, thinking you are going to correct them with your extensive knowledge of your dog's lines, pedigrees, what the different lines are known to produce, both weaknesses as well as strengths.....breeding successfully takes so much more than just crossed fingers, a wing and a prayer.... I remember seeing pictures that a breeder that was "just starting her breeding program".....she had 9 generation pedigrees on her breeding pairs, and then of course, she had drilled down past the initial 9 generations of the two breeding dogs, into the lines of the grandparents, great grand parents, back for 4 generations.....she was still gathering information on each of the generations on the dogs in those pedigrees, back at least 9 generations...she posted pics of these generations and lineages all laid out carefully on her dining room and study floors!!! THAT is the correct way to START analyzing the dogs behind your breeding pair.....those are the dogs that will establish your blueprint for puppies you are contemplating producing. |
08-17-2015, 12:12 PM | #7 | |
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08-17-2015, 12:21 PM | #8 |
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| First litters arent going to be small I dont know who told you that but its an old wives tale. She has a genetic defect so she should not be bred and yes you would be putting her life at risk. Leave the breeding to qualified breeders. There is too much risk involved in breeding yorkies to breed for just one litter.
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