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| Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: georgia
Posts: 10
| I am rather appalled at the rude/harsh responses to this individual who joined yorkie talk in order to ask some questions about getting a new puppy. Nobody, with an exception of myself (in a private message) have bothered to answer any of the questions that were asked, all of the responses have been quite negative and judgemental. I personally have owned FIVE yorkies during my lifetime. One came to live with me at 6 weeks old, two at seven weeks, one at 9 weeks, and one at 12 weeks. NONE of them were purchased from backyard breeders, but came from homes where they were raised inside with human interaction and well taken care of. Out of all five, the ONLY one that ended up being sick was the one that I purchased at 12 weeks. At around 5 months old, she started having severe, constant seizures, and stayed very sick. The rest of my yorkies all lived to have very long, happy, healthy lives. So, regardless of the age that they come to live with you, you can always end up with a sick puppy, I am living proof of that. My current yorkie came to live with me at 7 weeks of age, and now at 4 1/2 months old, she is a very healthy little ball of energy. While I do understand some of the concerns expressed here, I think there are nicer and more helpful ways to say things. I thought YT was a place where people who love Yorkies can come to share stories and get advice, not be personally attacked. Go back and read the responses, most all of them were not very kind or welcoming to this person. |
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| aka ♥SquishyFace♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: n/a
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1. There are hundreds of skills the mom would have taught the puppy had the puppy been allowed to stay with the mother for the appropriate length of time. Your puppy could suffer from a number of issues including, but not restricted to, separation anxiety. Be prepared - this is not an easy condition to deal with and I speak from experience. 2. In no way is it okay to leave a YT puppy @ 7 weeks old all alone for this long. There are too many things which could happen, including hypoglycaemia, which is life threatening. 3. Is the puppy even weaned yet? My YT was not fully weaned until over 10 weeks of age. I think you should seek vet advice re: this. 4. 7 weeks is way too early to consider potty training. For the record, I disagree that the responses here have been harsh. They have been realistic. I think that, whatever the circumstances are which led to the breeder releasing the puppy this early, you would be better to not replicate the rashness of taking this puppy from its mother without understanding the repercussions of what you are doing. Is there no way to take the mom and the pups to a shelter or at least take the pups and the mom to a home together? If you are determined to take this on, which is wholly unfair to the puppy despite your noble intentions, then I would suggest that you visit with a vet BEFORE taking this puppy home so that you can be armed with all of the necessary information and equipment. I, for one, am appalled at the sheer volume of people who 'breed' and find themselves in 'circumstances' which result in puppies abandoned to shelters or inexperienced owners. Nonetheless, I hope that you make the right decision for you and the puppy and wish you best of luck. | |
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| Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 9,462
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".............nobody, with an exception of myself (in a private message) have bothered to answer any of the questions that were asked, all of the responses have been quite negative and judgementa[/B]l." All those questions she asked are basic, elementary information that can be elaborately addressed in helpful books that she should be reading BEFORE getting the puppy. Thank God for the "posting police" who turn on members and chastise THEM for help they offered....no one was cruel or rude or incorrect in anything they said, including me. I always try to address individual people, right out front, not in private messages, for all to see and read and learn from....and I NEVER assault another member for the way THEY address another poster...that is NOT what is in the best interest of the forum....it tends to make the member doing it, look like they are trying to be some kind of "holier than thou" crusader.... Hopefully, you are an experienced breeder that can offer this person VALUABLE, USEFUL help that will assist her with this puppy, rather than assaulting fellow members that do NOT post like you do. Hopefully, you also gave her titles of valuable resources/books that will accurately help her with this puppy. Cudos to you and your valuable "off site" help...hopefully, she will utilize the help you, as an experienced breeder, have given her. My initial post to her, did nothing but educate her about the person she was getting this unfortunate puppy from. I wish I had a dollar for every time over the last 35 years, I have had someone tell me, "the lady is having an emergency and has to leave town and I rescued the tiny little immature puppy"....and then the puppy gets ill and dies because it has had NO vaccinations, and the new, inexperienced owner is heart broken..... We are all adults here....we really do not have to pussy-foot around the cold hard truth of bad breeders off loading unvaccinated puppies on clueless people that have not picked up a book or invested any of their valuable time into research on the breed they are interested in, or the pitfalls of doing business with unscrupulous breeders. Thank God you have picked up the slack and been the only person to offer this person any educated, valuable information. I went back and read all the "horrific posts" sent to this person...sorry, didnt see anything a 5 year old could not have handled....nothing but informative, accurate, helpful, direct information from people that took their time to try to help. Thank goodness you were there to make everyone else look horrible and uncaring and uninformative..... Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 07-31-2015 at 09:12 PM. | |
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| Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Toronto
Posts: 77
| I don't believe anyone offered any responses that were rude. The original poster should be well educated prior to even thinking about getting a puppy of any kind and well equipped to know know what is involved in raising a puppy. I'm sure we were all shocked at her lack of any basic knowledge. For the record, I thought the original poster herself was rude in her second response given she had received a number of helpful responses. Further, what is the need to private email anyone in specific response to a question posted? If responses are public everyone learns. Anything you label as rudeness in the responses here you are misinterpreting. It is not rudeness - it is simply a shock and an attitude of "looking-out" for any potential puppies. This is a site for the welfare of Yorkshire Terriers and their care - not a site to coddle those who fail to do appropriate research prior to acquiring any young puppy of any breed. |
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| Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Toronto
Posts: 77
| Yorkiemom1 - right on! |
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| Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: E.Stroudsburg, Pa.
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__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my | |
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| Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
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This is awesome advice here! If you do truly care for this puppy, you should give it the best chance by letting it go to a shelter, where there is 24 hr care. Pup the puppy's life first, not your own desires...and if you do that, you'll do the right thing here.
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° | ||
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| Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: USA
Posts: 47
| I'm a bit confused with this situation.. I am a relatively new yorkie owner & Lacey was a sick adult when I got her, but, none the less, an adult. I joined this group to learn..and I have learned a lot!! The one common thing I have read in multiple threads is that yorkies (toy breed) puppies should stay with their mother for at least 12 weeks! OP why is the friend separating them? Why not find a foster (maybe you) that can take them all>? At least the mother could feed and socialize her pups while you work. If the breeder is a friend, she would trust you with her dog for a few weeks?! It might help her crisis too! Information can seem harsh if its not what we hope to hear...that is our issue not the person providing it. |
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| www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County
Posts: 17,408
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Your current pup now, only 4 1/2 month old. How do you know she will be healthy? You said yourself your 12 week old got very sick at 5 months. How do you know your 4 1/2 month old won't get sick in the future? I'm sure the one you got at 12 weeks you thought was healthy until she got sick right? Most of these conditions don't come up for years. Also curious to know what your breeder did about the pup with seizures?
__________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & BindiRIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12 ![]() Last edited by capt_noonie; 08-01-2015 at 11:01 AM. | |
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| YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Idaho
Posts: 4,544
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Last edited by lillymae; 08-01-2015 at 12:12 PM. | |
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| aka ♥SquishyFace♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: n/a
Posts: 1,875
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I think if someone doesn't know this type of thing before they purchased a puppy then there is no need to be ashamed or embarrassed or defensive and, really, the best thing to do is move on from the mistake and do not repeat it and certainly do not encourage others to repeat your mistake. However, coming on here for advice beforehand and then choosing to be defensive about it because it may not be what one wanted to hear...well, that is just irresponsible and selfish. This type of behavior supports BYBs and all the problems which go along with them. I really hope that people can see that all of these comments were meant to assist this little dog and its mom. Truly, I am not interested in the breeders 'circumstances' as contingency plans for varying circumstances should have been put into place before making the decision to add life to this planet. That is just my opinion, though. | |
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| Donating 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
Posts: 881
| Agree with the above. You came here to ask for advice and it is being offered. DO NOT take this puppy. If that is not what you came here to hear, sorry. If you want to have an attitude to the people here that are giving you sound advice, then simply go away. Frankly, the schedule that you outlined is not sufficient for a pup that young. They may have blood sugar issues or other time critical emergencies that you simply will not be there to take care of. There are so many issues with taking a pup this young and if you are not there to be in charge of the situation ALL of the time, then you are doing this little soul NO big favor by taking it over a shelter where at least there will be someone for them all of the time. All of the above is good advice. Swallow your pride or whatever it is that makes you snap back at good intents and advice and realize that the puppy would be better with someone who can give it the attention that it needs at this critical time in its little life.
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| Donating 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
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But seriously. If you have taken on all of these pups who should still be with there mothers and litters, then you have already told us everything we need to know about you.
__________________ Russ , Denise and Bailey . | |
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| | #29 | |
| Donating 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Jacksonville, FL USA
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I cried my eyes out yesterday for Xena, who put up such a fight for her life for MONTHS now. I PROMISED my little girl that I would make her healthy and happy. I spent 10K in just 4 months so far, but I think that I have finally crested that hill, thank God. But if you are not willing to give everything it takes and understand what the risks and possible costs are going to be, then it is best to just not take it on. There is always that chance that the dog will be the superdog who has no problems associated with leaving mom that soon. But there is a MUCH higher chance that there will be ongoing complications that you will have to deal with. As long as there is a bankroll and a willingness to do whatever has to be done, then go for it. But if not, just say no.
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| | #30 |
| YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Virginia
Posts: 6
| Thank you all for your responses. My intentions were not to be rude. I've bought over 10+ books about Yorkiepoo puppies and how to raise them several weeks beforehand, asking what to feed it was solely to ask for advice on type of brands and types of food to feed the puppy that have worked for you and your puppy seemed to enjoyed. I was a little frustrated because I already knew beforehand what you were posting due to my original post...I was asking on how to yield the puppy from what it would be missing. I appreciate everyone's input. I have hired a pet sitter to fill in for the hours I am not there and have rearranged my schedule. Thank you for everything - This post has answered all my questions. Last edited by xsupergirl; 08-04-2015 at 07:48 AM. |
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