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Old 03-31-2015, 05:54 AM   #1
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Default Children and Dogs--This made me so sad and mad

I love children, and all of my Yorkies through the years have too. I read this article, and it broke my heart.

My Dog Bit My Child

Attached to the article were some posters by Dr. Sophia Yin, DVM and one by the columnist.

Training for both dogs and children is so very important, even (and especially for their safety) with our little Yorkies. This terrible thing could have been avoided, and it made me really upset and angry.
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Another one and a link to the article by Dr. Yin:
Kids and Dogs: How Kids Should and Should Not Interact with Dogs | Animal Behavior and Medicine Blog | Dr. Sophia Yin, DVM, MS
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Wonder what breed was Buddy.
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A dog was killed because the parents were ignorant. Why couldn't they have given the dog to a rescue?
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The link doesn't load for me for some reason.


If a dog was killed due to human ignorance, well, sadly that is commonplace and all the more reason for us to be vigilant regarding professional training for all breeds.


Just like child-rearing, we are not born with the knowledge of all things. There is no shame in asking for help before a problem arises.
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Lack of education and preparation on so many levels. So sad the dog had to pay with its life.
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Here is a link to Dr. Sophia Yin's website where you can download these posters and many more.

Free Downloads: Posters, Handouts, and More! | Animal Behavior and Medicine Blog | Dr. Sophia Yin, DVM, MS
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Is it a wonder today that children are not trained on how to interact with a dog any dog, but especially a strange dog? Children behave badly all over the place. The permissiveness, no teaching of boundaries, no respect taught for their elders, property, etc etc etc. Of course this is not every child or parent - but there are plenty of examples out there.


In our diverse cultures - the mix of folks from different beliefs not the least of which is one that tells them that animals are unclean. Some folks come from countries that eat dog meat.... Where many adults either fear or actively dislike dogs - is it any wonder their children mirror their parents beliefs and yes their fears.


But I agree it is so very sad that this dog suffered from parental blindness and failure to stop dangerous activities. For one who mentioned why did the dog have to be put down - some cities have this as a law - a bite - automatic euthanasia.


I like those posters and will cross post on my website - when I get one.
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I've had to make it so my friend's kid has very limited interaction with Lola, she keeps doing inappropriate things like barking and growling in Lola's face (she's 8, way too old for that nonsense). I keep correcting her nicely about it, she starts crying, and my grandmom and her mom get mad at me. We leave when she comes over now. Lola is very tolerant, but I'm not risking it.
The really sad thing is she lives with 2 dogs, 1 medium and 1 big, and 2 cats. I'm just waiting for her or her brother (7, and severly autistic) to get bit. She's even worse with her pets.

In general though I've found strange kids are much better than strange adults with Lola in public. Kids and young adults almost always ask before petting her, adults, especially women, don't. I've had about 5 50-60 year old women try to walk up and grab Lola's face, then get mad at me for preventing it.
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I've had to make it so my friend's kid has very limited interaction with Lola, she keeps doing inappropriate things like barking and growling in Lola's face (she's 8, way too old for that nonsense). I keep correcting her nicely about it, she starts crying, and my grandmom and her mom get mad at me. We leave when she comes over now. Lola is very tolerant, but I'm not risking it.
The really sad thing is she lives with 2 dogs, 1 medium and 1 big, and 2 cats. I'm just waiting for her or her brother (7, and severly autistic) to get bit. She's even worse with her pets.

In general though I've found strange kids are much better than strange adults with Lola in public. Kids and young adults almost always ask before petting her, adults, especially women, don't. I've had about 5 50-60 year old women try to walk up and grab Lola's face, then get mad at me for preventing it.

You would think that this child was old enough to not behave this way BUT my brother in law, who is over 30, does the same thing to Teddy. How the hell can kids know what is appropriate when the parents are ignorant? Ugh, I will go off on a societal etiquette rant so will stop here by saying I sympathize!
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Looks like a pit bull page to me... stands to reason.... it was most likely a pit bull that bit the child. The page was tough to move around to read the article thoroughly but dog breed traits are important to consider before making one a family member. The parents bucked the odds and lost. Read any article about selecting a dog that matches your lifestyle and circumstances, you don't buy a dalmatian or pit bull when you have small children. It's not rocket science! Plenty of others have done the experiment for us, paid the price and as a result there are plenty of documented traits and recommendations for selecting a breed that matches your situation. Training is only part of the formula.
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The author did not state the breed to keep the identity of the family anonymous, but she said the dog was not a pit bull.
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The author did not state the breed to keep the identity of the family anonymous, but she said the dog was not a pit bull.
Thanks, I had a tough time maneuvering on the page, couldn't read it all.
I do stick with most of what I wrote above, selecting a breed that is better suited to your family...

I know pit bulls is a hot topic, not looking for a fight, it's just the numbers are out there. Here's something that is really sad and the best argument to not support any pit bull breeder: Pit Bulls and euthanasia rates - National Dog Rescue | Examiner.com
That page was a bit jerky so here's the text from it:
It is estimated that there are 3-5 million Pit Bulls in the U.S. The term 'Pit Bull' encompasses mainly three breeds of dog: the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Considered a 'bully breed' and subject to Breed Specific Legislation, they are by far the most euthanized breed.

Debates rage over the validity of accusations against them but one thing is certain....they are being killed in shelters at shocking rates.

Pit Bulls and Pit Bull mixes average about 33% of shelter intakes nationally, but in large cities the numbers are as high as 40%-65%. About 75% of municipal shelters euthanize Pit Bulls immediately upon intake, without them ever having any chance at adoption. Those that are offered for adoption are usually the first chosen for euthanasia when overcrowding forces the shelter's hand and decisions have to be made.

Studies estimate that up to 1 million Pits are euthanized per year, or 2,800 per day. Some estimates are up to double that number. In the Los Angeles area alone, 200 per day are put to sleep. A study by the organization Animal People reports a 93% euthanasia rate for Pit Bulls and only 1 in 600 Pits finding a forever home.

Read that again. Only ONE in 600 Pit Bulls will have a forever home.

Further, euthanasia estimates don't include the misery and death Pit Bulls face as the #1 dog-fighting breed. Fought dogs that don't die in the ring often suffer excruciating abuse, neglect, abandonment, and eventually death even worse than humane euthanasia.

Our animal shelters are not to blame.

The staff who have to 'choose' which dogs to put down are not to blame.

Those who carry out the euthanization are not to blame.

It's simple math....there are too many Pits and not enough people willing to adopt them. Shelters are overwhelmed with dogs who demand space and funds for their care and medical treatment and something's got to give. It's the animals, very often Pit Bulls, and what they give is their very lives.

Until we can educate the public and move them to spay and neuter, we're just putting a band-aid on a gushing wound. One female dog can produce two litters of 6-10 pups per year. In 6 years that female and her offspring can produce 67,000 dogs!

Often, it is the cost of sterilization that keeps Pits intact to reproduce. Great work is being done to curb the Pit Bull overpopulation by organizations such as the San Francisco SPCA. The facility offered one month during which all Pit Bulls and Pit Bull mixes were sterilized free of charge. It went so well that they have extended the program indefinitely!

"We know first-hand through previous initiatives...the positive effect efforts like this can have in the community, " says Jeannette Goh, D.V.M., Director of the SF SPCA Spay and Neuter Clinic. "We're excited to offer this service free of charge from here on out."

San Francisco has a legal requirement that all Pits and Pit mixes be spayed or neutered because over 60% of the dogs euthanized in the city are Pit Bulls. The SF SPCA Spay/Neuter Clinic is part of the Leanne B. Roberts Animal Care Center and is on track to perform more than 9,000 sterilizations this year. During the first month of free sterilization for Pit Bulls at the facility, spay and neuter surgeries on Pit Bulls rose 350% from the previous month.

Sterilization of dogs also may increase their lifespan by 1-3 years, as it greatly reduces the risk of cancer and also curbs their urge to roam. Roaming can lead to a short, harsh life on the streets, or...you guessed it...landing in an animal shelter and facing euthanasia.

Kudos to every shelter facility that offers low cost or free sterilization of all dogs, but especially of Pit Bulls. Google to find one in your area and get it done!

MORE articles on dog rescue / sheltering issues / happy endings and shelter dogs who went on to become famous heroes, CLICK HERE and scroll through over 100 topics. SHARE to raise awareness, and always Adopt, Spay / Neuter, Tag / Microchip, and love your pets for life!
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