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07-05-2014, 09:09 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Kanata, Ontario, Canada
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| Contracts We purchased a beautiful little girl from a breeder. In the contract there is a clause that says the breeder has the right to one littler off her before she is fixed. The breeder just called as said she wants to use that right. I dont like it. What are the risks. Is there a way out of it. When we payed the 1500$ for her we were told she rairly contacted but it happens. She likes Chewy's coloring and features, behaviour and wants a litter off her. Is this normal. HELP! |
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07-05-2014, 09:34 AM | #2 |
T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England
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| Omg! That's horrendous. I don't see how she has any right to subject YOUR dog to the possibility of death due to breeding or why you should have to have a pregnant dog in your home while she sits back enjoying your sale $. I know what I would tell her, but I didn't sign that contract- you did. I would suggest you have a lawyer look at it.
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07-05-2014, 09:36 AM | #3 |
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| I'd have her spayed and tell the breeder to kiss my @!!! There was a couple of breeders here a long time ago that had this little scheme going. It's totally wrong and makes me sick. Is this breeder in the US or Canada?
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07-05-2014, 09:38 AM | #4 |
T. Bumpkins & Co. Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New England
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| What kind of breeder is this! I'm INCENSED for you.
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07-05-2014, 09:43 AM | #5 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Always read the contract before even looking at the pups. I feel bad for you. How big is your girl? Has she been through a heat already? Breeding is always risky and breeding her if she is under 5 pounds and or when it's her first heat make it even more risky. Personally if you really love your girl I would get her fixed and deal with the consequences of it because at least you will still have your girl. This is just so wrong of the breeder.
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07-05-2014, 09:45 AM | #6 |
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| Whaaaaaaaat? Get a lawyer and spay your pup!
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07-05-2014, 09:49 AM | #7 |
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| I wouldnt put your pup at risk for this breeder just get her spayed
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07-05-2014, 09:55 AM | #8 |
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| Here's another question. Where does the male dog come from to produce this litter of puppies? Are you supposed to open your home to a strange dog or send your girl away to a strangers home because I'm pretty sure you need a male dog to produce puppies THIS AINT THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION here! I'd think this little money making racket would mean you'd need to breed her to one of their stud dogs that travels around mating and making money in this breeding scheme. Spay your baby and tell her to go screw off! If she doesn't like it let her to come on YT and we can set her straight
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07-05-2014, 10:02 AM | #9 |
Rosehill Yorkies Donating YT Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Houston Texas
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| This is actually a common clause in contracts where you may be dealing with a show breeder or a breeder that has really outstanding lines. I am not saying all show breeders do this, but it really is not unheard of.....is this breeder a show breeder with proven lines and winning dogs, a line and pedigree that has been passed down to your baby girl? She sold that pup to you with the understanding that for a $1500.00 price, the breeder has the right to come back and get a litter from her. You agreed to allow that. I would advise you NOT to have her spayed and then try to deal with the consequences.....that COULD cost you at least a guestimation of what one pup from this proposed breeding would sell for, multiplied by an average number of pups in the litter she may have.....How much does your little girl weigh? How old is she? A lawyer could perhaps argue she is too young to safely have a litter....he may also argue she did not grow large enough to allow her to be safely bred.....Good luck with this thorn in your side.....take your contract to your lawyer and see if there are loop holes you can use to negate the contract....some breeders just cobble up their own contracts because it is cheaper than getting a lawyer to draw one up that is essentially airtight.....maybe your breeder took the cheap way out and you have wiggle room and can get out of it. I am sure you would be required to send your baby girl back to the breeder for this mating, as the female usually always goes to the male rather than the other way around! Last edited by Yorkiemom1; 07-05-2014 at 10:04 AM. |
07-05-2014, 10:15 AM | #10 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL
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| I suggest you call consumer protection. There is a fairly large breeder that does this little have a litter contract up and down the east coast. She is not a show breeder just a different form of a puppy mill. It's been posted on YT in the past and the old timers on here will remember the FB page started by this group of breeders that were involved in that lite effort to quiet our forum. Anyway, it was found out that part of purchasing from them the contract stated just this....buy the puppy and you were required to have 1 litter and they got pick of the litter. Over and over again. They were not using these dogs for show and they were not show lines. But what a racket they had going!
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07-05-2014, 10:29 AM | #11 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | Get a lawyer have them review the contract. You may have wiggle room there. Another potentiality have your vet examine her, with very clear instructions for his assessment of her health as it regards her being bred. Be open with what you signed up for on the contract. If in his medical opinion being bred puts this female at high risk then that might be another avenue to go as well. He will need to document his findings and prepare a formal report. And you should never sign a contract with provisions in it that you don't agree with.
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07-05-2014, 10:29 AM | #12 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Caguas, PR, USA
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| Couldn't it be possible for the vet to certify she cannot breed because of her size or whatever? Take her to the vet and ask him the risks and if he agrees or not on letting her breed. If it is possible, no contract would legally make you do it.
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07-05-2014, 10:33 AM | #13 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I have heard of this from show breeders, but I think that I would never sign a contract that demands a litter from a female I bought, trained, showed. I have heard of some breeders that want the proceeds from a whole litter, and with BRT;s that can be anywhere from 6-9 or more puppies. I would never ever give anyone the right to supersede myself on when and to whom I dog I own will be bred.
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07-06-2014, 06:41 AM | #15 |
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