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Lovetodream88 05-19-2014 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4438780)
That's not been my experience.

Hitting a dog is pure an simply dog abuse. If you want to be a big bad abuser of a small yorkie then you might need a therapist because obviously there are other issues. For his sake I am glad he stopped but shame on you for abuse!

Lawman 05-19-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4438924)
Hitting a dog is pure an simply dog abuse. If you want to be a big bad abuser of a small yorkie then you might need a therapist because obviously there are other issues. For his sake I am glad he stopped but shame on you for abuse!

I can't help but wonder if a few here might have been better served to have been spanked..

Wylie's Mom 05-19-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4438953)
I can't help but wonder if a few here might have been better served to have been spanked..

No one is "better served" by being hit / abused or forced into violence.

I would have thought your experience as a cop would've have taught you that so long ago. But maybe you're just in mall security or something, I don't know :scratchhe. It looks like you don't have any experience at all w/ violence though, so I guess we have to chalk all this spanking enjoyment up to your naivete. But that's a-okay, we get a lot of new dog owners who don't know much yet, and need to learn as they go as they're just at the beginning of the learning curve.

I was spanked as a kid, it taught me that physical violence hurt - and that was all it taught me. Brilliant. I think I could've made that genius leap of knowledge on my own :rolleyes:.

Lovetodream88 05-19-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4438953)
I can't help but wonder if a few here might have been better served to have been spanked..

When it was nessisary I was but it was normally only when I did something that could have ended up with me hurting myself. The reason we still have so much violence is because people still have your way of thinking. Abuse breeds abuse period.

Lawman 05-19-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4438967)
When it was nessisary I was but it was normally only when I did something that could have ended up with me hurting myself. The reason we still have so much violence is because people still have your way of thinking. Abuse breeds abuse period.

It is my position that if more spanking was done we would see more personal responsibility and a greater respect for others..

Lovetodream88 05-19-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4438995)
It is my position that if more spanking was done we would see more personal responsibility and a greater respect for others..

I don't think that's the case I lived in an area where parents would openly in the store and parking lot spank there children and yell at them and the crime rates just got worse and worse. I can't believe someone can support abuse let alone abuse of a small animal. You won't find many if anyone on yt that agrees with you we are a community of people who love our dogs and other dogs and are against abuse.

Lawman 05-19-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4439022)
I don't think that's the case I lived in an area where parents would openly in the store and parking lot spank there children and yell at them and the crime rates just got worse and worse. I can't believe someone can support abuse let alone abuse of a small animal. You won't find many if anyone on yt that agrees with you we are a community of people who love our dogs and other dogs and are against abuse.

Your suggestion that those who spank do not love those they are spanking is nonsense..I'll not criticize you for your decision not to spank and I'll overlook your criticism of me..I'm constantly amazed at how those who purport to be the most tolerant are so intolerant of those that disagree with them..

McheleM 05-19-2014 02:59 PM

Let's clear some things up. Spanking as discipline, in a child, is not always abuse. It can be, but just because someone spanks their child doesn't mean they're abusive.
With that being said, I do not condone hitting anyone or anything for any reason. That includes spankig animals or children.

I grew up in a household where spankings were used for everything. My mom was very heavy handed, and even used a paddle on us. It did not teach me discipline, it taught me that my mom was going to beat the crap out of me with a paddle and leave bruises on me. It did not change my behavior, but it did make me angry and hate my mom. It made me grow up thinking it was okay to be beat on, and this led me to get married to an abusive spouse. After many years of abuse, I finally had enough the day he threw me across the bedroom and caused me to miscarry. I left and sought counseling. This made me understand that their behavior was wrong. It also made me realize that hands are not instruments to be used to intimidate a person or animal, and therefore I have never spanked my children or my pets.

Living in fear of the person who is your caretaker is not a fun life.

Lawman 05-19-2014 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4439030)

Living in fear of the person who is your caretaker is not a fun life.


Agreed...My parents spanked me too. I feared them in the same way I fear God. My parents loved me and I loved them and my life has been fun so I don't subscribe to your suggestion that you being spanked is what wrecked your life. My view of my life is one that is responsible, well adjusted and very happy. I've raised a daughter that is likewise responsible , well adjusted and very happy and I'v raised a good number of dogs who seemed happy and well adjusted and they have been spanked..I don't expect to change anyone's mind whether to spank or not..I think the fact that those who don't spank feel superior to those who spank speaks volumes..

Lovetodream88 05-19-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4439041)
Agreed...My parents spanked me too. I feared them in the same way I fear God. My parents loved me and I loved them and my life has been fun so I don't subscribe to your suggestion that you being spanked is what wrecked your life. My view of my life is one that is responsible, well adjusted and very happy. I've raised a daughter that is likewise responsible , well adjusted and very happy and I'v raised a good number of dogs who seemed happy and well adjusted and they have been spanked..I don't expect to change anyone's mind whether to spank or not..I think the fact that those who don't spank feel superior to those who spank speaks volumes..

Hitting a dog is animal abuse and its not the way to teach them. There is nothing superior about it its simply just wrong to hit a dog.

kreuer 05-19-2014 03:47 PM

Okay, I am not a dog expert, but one thing I do know is DOGS ARE NOT CHILDREN. Whether or not you choose to spank your children as a form of discipline is irrelevant because DOGS ARE NOT CHILDREN.


Although many of us may treat our dogs like our own children doesn't mean what's right for them is right for our dogs. Again, I'm no expert, but I don't see how a dog can comprehend, no matter how smart they are, why they are being spanked. A child you can at least talk to and explain to them why they are being spanked, a dog you cannot.

Lawman 05-19-2014 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kreuer (Post 4439090)
Okay, I am not a dog expert, but one thing I do know is DOGS ARE NOT CHILDREN. Whether or not you choose to spank your children as a form of discipline is irrelevant because DOGS ARE NOT CHILDREN.


Although many of us may treat our dogs like our own children doesn't mean what's right for them is right for our dogs. Again, I'm no expert, but I don't see how a dog can comprehend, no matter how smart they are, why they are being spanked. A child you can at least talk to and explain to them why they are being spanked, a dog you cannot.

Trust me, when I spanked my dog he knew I was not happy with him..So do you think it is just coincidence that we've had no more accidents since I spanked him?

Lovetodream88 05-19-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4439097)
Trust me, when I spanked my dog he knew I was not happy with him..So do you think it is just coincidence that we've had no more accidents since I spanked him?

Or he could be doing it some where you don't know, or it could be from getting fixed or yeah you scared him enough where he fears you.

ColesMommy01 05-19-2014 05:41 PM

Oops no need

TxVicki 05-19-2014 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawman (Post 4438953)
I can't help but wonder if a few here might have been better served to have been spanked..

WOW what an awful thing to say.


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