Little Biewer Yorkies

[luvlee]

Originally Posted by lynzy420

Oh silly you, I am the all powerful Lynzy...(smiley with sunglasses and big fat smirk on face and long hair and a Tiara)

Hee hee, silly me! I never could respond well to snarky! All I can say, sweetie, is WHATEVER!!!

Have a great nite friend!

[Exotic bird]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Why not stick around? This is a good site with lots of great people.

Have to say that's not how it's looking to an outsider. It looks like a bunch of really snippy backstabbing bitter angry mean people. Sorry to say it but it's a real turn-off. This is not the site for me.

[Wylie's Mom]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

Have to say that's not how it's looking to an outsider. It looks like a bunch of really snippy backstabbing bitter angry mean people. Sorry to say it but it's a real turn-off. This is not the site for me.

Hi and Welcome to YT , although I'm a bit late. We have over 124,000 members here and I can for sure tell you that we have some incredibly kind, supportive, and wonderful members here. I would encourage you to look a little further before judging a place after only a bit of time here and a few posts. I would bet you almost anything that you'll find some fantastic people here.

I see you're in AZ, me too - I'm in Phoenix metro. Where are you?

[luvlee]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

Have to say that's not how it's looking to an outsider. It looks like a bunch of really snippy backstabbing bitter angry mean people. Sorry to say it but it's a real turn-off. This is not the site for me.

Oh my goodness, please don't feel that way! "Snippy" may apply occasionally - but the other stuff...not really at all. I just let it roll.

Cooler heads usually prevail and this site can be an invaluable resource for you and your baby's needs.

I have no personal interest in this website other than being a registered member. I can honestly say that it has helped me with issues concerning my dogs on several occasions.

Sorry for the bumpy start though!

Best wishes,
Tracey

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

Have to say that's not how it's looking to an outsider. It looks like a bunch of really snippy backstabbing bitter angry mean people. Sorry to say it but it's a real turn-off. This is not the site for me.

I'm sorry I was not getting that could you please explain why you feel that way? I was just seeing people post there opinion about a breeder. We do that a lot here because many of us have gotten a dog from a bad breeder and try to save other people from what we have been through.

[SarahBear1986]

I don't get why anyone would be angry over being told they may have gotten their dog from a BYB. If anything it's helpful to take that away and keep it in the back of your mind as these dogs do, god willing, live very long lives. In that if you have even a suspicion that the person you got a pup from May not be the best breeder you can then set up preventative measures to make sure your dog has good vet insurance. Of course I'd recommend getting vet insurance regardless but if I had an even an inkling that my dogs breeder might not of given my dog the best hereditary start in life, then I'd certainly get the insurance, without a doubt. Even if you don't want to believe she's a bad breeder that's fine. We're just trying to warn you so that if in the future her breeding business does come apart at the seems you will be prepared for that. Keep in good contact with her if that's what you choose to do. It's your opinion that she's a good breeder and it's our opinion that she isn't. So on that subject we can agree to disagree but this board is still a wealth of information and it's inviting to all members regardless of where the puppy came from. Hopefully you'll stick around but forewarning that a difference of opinion is inevitable in a public forum. It's no reason to run off though.

[pstinard]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

If they need help I would hope they would ask. But there are other people who read these threads and if they google the breeder this thread will come up and show them it's not a good breeder.

I added a couple of tags to this thread (puppy mill and biewer backyard breeder) to help it come up in google searches. Everyone please feel free to add more!

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by SarahBear1986

I don't get why anyone would be angry over being told they may have gotten their dog from a BYB. If anything it's helpful to take that away and keep it in the back of your mind as these dogs do, god willing, live very long lives. In that if you have even a suspicion that the person you got a pup from May not be the best breeder you can then set up preventative measures to make sure your dog has good vet insurance. Of course I'd recommend getting vet insurance regardless but if I had an even an inkling that my dogs breeder might not of given my dog the best hereditary start in life, then I'd certainly get the insurance, without a doubt. Even if you don't want to believe she's a bad breeder that's fine. We're just trying to warn you so that if in the future her breeding business does come apart at the seems you will be prepared for that. Keep in good contact with her if that's what you choose to do. It's your opinion that she's a good breeder and it's our opinion that she isn't. So on that subject we can agree to disagree but this board is still a wealth of information and it's inviting to all members regardless of where the puppy came from. Hopefully you'll stick around but forewarning that a difference of opinion is inevitable in a public forum. It's no reason to run off though.

yup and make sure it's a pet insurance that cover genetic problems.

[Exotic bird]

A backyard breeder is trying to breed a nice well socialized puppy for the pet market.

A "Reputable" Breeder is trying to breed the best lines to get the perfect purebred dog to win ribbons in the show ring.

Of the two, I know what kind of dog I'd rather own.

Since the Biewer Terrier isn't a recognized breed in the USA (yet), there's is no show ring. All Biewer breeders are really just glorified backyard breeders.

That said, Terry raises some of the very nicest Yorkies. Home raised, well adjusted, friendly happy little pups. You sure can't say that about a lot of "Reputable" breeders.

Florida has some of the toughest breeder laws in the country. All Terry's pups are vet checked by law before she can sell them. Of course if you sell enough pups some of them will have health problems. That happens with "reputable" breeders too and it's tragic when it happens. A good breeder will offer a replacement pup and I understand Terry does that as any good breeder should.

Terry is raising really adorable very small cute puppies with great personality. That's what people want and they are willing to pay really big bucks to own one. I did. Our little Zander is wonderful. He is so full of life and spunk it's clear he was well raised in a loving family home.

In this forum I don't hear helpful people trying to offer advice and support. What I hear really sounds like jealousy.

[Exotic bird]

Sorry, I don't know the rules on double posts or hot links in this forum but I didn't get a picture of Zander posted with my last message in time and the forum locks messages after 5 min.

Here's Zander. Hope the picture works.

http://s29.postimg.org/nyrm4gjs7/zander.jpg[/url]

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

A backyard breeder is trying to breed a nice well socialized puppy for the pet market.

A "Reputable" Breeder is trying to breed the best lines to get the perfect purebred dog to win ribbons in the show ring.

Of the two, I know what kind of dog I'd rather own.

Since the Biewer Terrier isn't a recognized breed in the USA (yet), there's is no show ring. All Biewer breeders are really just glorified backyard breeders.

That said, Terry raises some of the very nicest Yorkies. Home raised, well adjusted, friendly happy little pups. You sure can't say that about a lot of "Reputable" breeders.

Florida has some of the toughest breeder laws in the country. All Terry's pups are vet checked by law before she can sell them. Of course if you sell enough pups some of them will have health problems. That happens with "reputable" breeders too and it's tragic when it happens. A good breeder will offer a replacement pup and I understand Terry does that as any good breeder should.

Terry is raising really adorable very small cute puppies with great personality. That's what people want and they are willing to pay really big bucks to own one. I did. Our little Zander is wonderful. He is so full of life and spunk it's clear he was well raised in a loving family home.

In this forum I don't hear helpful people trying to offer advice and support. What I hear really sounds like jealousy.

Really? Seriously? I am going to tap your shoulder gently and whisper in your ear "you have no idea what you are talking about"...there is a ton of information here on YT and if you had come here sooner you would probably not have purchased from Terry. and jealous????? That's just almost insulting, I paid 2500.00 for my Mini, and so far more than $20,000 in vet bills...ahhhh, yes I'm jealous.....btw, even though you have insulted me, I will be here when and if you need my help...I really hope it works out well for you and your pup, as I said in my pm...Welcome to YT!

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

A backyard breeder is trying to breed a nice well socialized puppy for the pet market.

A "Reputable" Breeder is trying to breed the best lines to get the perfect purebred dog to win ribbons in the show ring.

Of the two, I know what kind of dog I'd rather own.

Since the Biewer Terrier isn't a recognized breed in the USA (yet), there's is no show ring. All Biewer breeders are really just glorified backyard breeders.

That said, Terry raises some of the very nicest Yorkies. Home raised, well adjusted, friendly happy little pups. You sure can't say that about a lot of "Reputable" breeders.

Florida has some of the toughest breeder laws in the country. All Terry's pups are vet checked by law before she can sell them. Of course if you sell enough pups some of them will have health problems. That happens with "reputable" breeders too and it's tragic when it happens. A good breeder will offer a replacement pup and I understand Terry does that as any good breeder should.

Terry is raising really adorable very small cute puppies with great personality. That's what people want and they are willing to pay really big bucks to own one. I did. Our little Zander is wonderful. He is so full of life and spunk it's clear he was well raised in a loving family home.

In this forum I don't hear helpful people trying to offer advice and support. What I hear really sounds like jealousy.

I know those who posted and I can tell you they are very much not jealous. Just wanting to educate people. A reputable breeder does not have to be a show breeder but a very good breeder who does everything right. Breeding a female under 5 pounds to get tiny pups is not what a good breeder does. I did talk to one of her buyers who went to her home and never saw any sires or dams and that seems to be a little disturbing to me. I do hope you continue to have good luck with your little guy.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Exotic bird

A backyard breeder is trying to breed a nice well socialized puppy for the pet market.

A "Reputable" Breeder is trying to breed the best lines to get the perfect purebred dog to win ribbons in the show ring.

Of the two, I know what kind of dog I'd rather own.

Since the Biewer Terrier isn't a recognized breed in the USA (yet), there's is no show ring. All Biewer breeders are really just glorified backyard breeders.

That said, Terry raises some of the very nicest Yorkies. Home raised, well adjusted, friendly happy little pups. You sure can't say that about a lot of "Reputable" breeders.

Florida has some of the toughest breeder laws in the country. All Terry's pups are vet checked by law before she can sell them. Of course if you sell enough pups some of them will have health problems. That happens with "reputable" breeders too and it's tragic when it happens. A good breeder will offer a replacement pup and I understand Terry does that as any good breeder should.

Terry is raising really adorable very small cute puppies with great personality. That's what people want and they are willing to pay really big bucks to own one. I did. Our little Zander is wonderful. He is so full of life and spunk it's clear he was well raised in a loving family home.

In this forum I don't hear helpful people trying to offer advice and support. What I hear really sounds like jealousy.

All I can say to you is with your 5 posts you know of not what you speak.
Lynzy420 knows exactly what she's talking about with her first hand experience.

[SarahBear1986]

Nobody's jealous of you. Seriously, Yorkshire Terrier is one of the most sought after breeds in America especially with respect to the toy breeds. That said, none of us got off cheap with our purebred registered Yorkies. However, our furbabies are priceless to us so what they cost is completely irrelevant to us in the whole scheme of things. To imply that you're better off financially than the rest of us on this board and therefore we are jealous of your ability to pay big money for a puppy is extremely extremely pompous and insulting. We own a company so our princess Darla wants for nothing and trust me this little purebred AKC registered Yorkshire Terrier sitting next to me wasn't cheap in the slightest. I'm gonna follow MegansMomma's signature advice and stop at this post.

[lynzy420]

Originally Posted by SarahBear1986

Nobody's jealous of you. Seriously, Yorkshire Terrier is one of the most sought after breeds in America especially with respect to the toy breeds. That said, none of us got off cheap with our purebred registered Yorkies. However, our furbabies are priceless to us so what they cost is completely irrelevant to us in the whole scheme of things. To imply that you're better off financially than the rest of us on this board and therefore we are jealous of your ability to pay big money for a puppy is extremely extremely pompous and insulting. We own a company so our princess Darla wants for nothing and trust me this little purebred AKC registered Yorkshire Terrier sitting next to me wasn't cheap in the slightest. I'm gonna follow MegansMomma's signature advice and stop at this post.

Spoken like a True blue Yorkie devoted momma! OP if you think the value of a Yorkie is based on the price tag on their heads...you just may be at the wrong forum...we've got Yorkies from puppy mills, rescues, shelters, pet stores, the best and the worst breeders here...we value each of them equally, we love them unconditionally, we rejoice in their triumphs, we cry at their losses, we fight for their rights. We YTers are a diverse group all with different ideas and beliefs but collectively we stand together in the belief that every Yorkie, well bred, show dog or even a Yorkie mutt, each of them are truly priceless....