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sl123 03-06-2014 05:29 AM

@mimimomo-- I didn't read all of that !! again --- I had no idea that mating with a friends yorkie would be such a major ordeal ! I think I have gotten all I need out of this site.. and will figure out how to disconnect from it ! I have never dealt with such rude people!

Some were very nice and helpful -- others are way to uptight !!

sl123 03-06-2014 05:32 AM

Lovetodream88 -- my dog is a "full breed" I saw his mother and father, and again his father is AKC -- mother wasn't "registered " but is a full breed !!!! they have "nothing else in them" they aren't muts.. like what you are making them all out to be -- they are full blooded.. Mom, Dad, Grandad, GranMa are ALL YORKIES -- that is FULL BLOODED !! regardless of the 'registration"

sl123 03-06-2014 05:38 AM

@yorkiemom -- No holes in the pedigree I have looked!! His Mom wasn't registered and his Dad was, but in order for AKC to "register" puppies both parents have to be AKC... My friend has his Mom & Dad they are both full blooded. My other friend who is wanting puppies off of my male, her puppy is AKC... With all the talk of him marking his territory getting worse, I may not breed him at all. I can't take much more of that! thank you for your honest and nice post. Some people are here are really mean !!

normarae63 03-06-2014 05:42 AM

Here's the "nut" of why your request for insight has so many folks bothered.

While we all feel our pets are THE BEST Yorkie ever, it's a fact that shelters and rescues are already overburdened with animals whose owners can't keep/don't want them anymore. By breeding your male, you possibly continue that trend.

PLEASE, read the posts here with a cool head before assuming we're all a bunch of uptight Yorkie owners. Mimimomo posted very good info and links that I hope you'll read as well.

sl123 03-06-2014 05:45 AM

@normarea63 - We would NEVER sell, one of our puppies to anyone who cause it to eventually end up in a shelter. We would only ever make sure our puppies went to homes just as loving, clean, safe and friendly as ours.

Lovetodream88 03-06-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sl123 (Post 4401722)
@theporkieyorkie ! A backyard breeder with my friends sounds just fine to me !!

But that is what destroys the breed all of us here love so much and it produces sick pups that have to suffer there whole life with genetic illnesses.

Lovetodream88 03-06-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sl123 (Post 4401723)
@Loveto dream -- we live in a small town, people breed yorkies and other breeds with their friends all the time. It's not "just for the heck of it" all puppies are always sold to good loving homes, and go on to live healthy happy lives. Some go by AKC -AKC only .. others don't -- just depends are what they are looking for... You people are all way to uptight about the whole "AKC" thing... Good grief !!

Because your yorkie could be a mix and having AKC papers and being a mix is almost impossible. Only excellent examples of the breed should be breed.

Lovetodream88 03-06-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sl123 (Post 4401727)
Lovetodream88 -- my dog is a "full breed" I saw his mother and father, and again his father is AKC -- mother wasn't "registered " but is a full breed !!!! they have "nothing else in them" they aren't muts.. like what you are making them all out to be -- they are full blooded.. Mom, Dad, Grandad, GranMa are ALL YORKIES -- that is FULL BLOODED !! regardless of the 'registration"

You can't know that for sure and if they where pure they would be AKC.

Lovetodream88 03-06-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sl123 (Post 4401724)
@mimimomo-- I didn't read all of that !! again --- I had no idea that mating with a friends yorkie would be such a major ordeal ! I think I have gotten all I need out of this site.. and will figure out how to disconnect from it ! I have never dealt with such rude people!

Some were very nice and helpful -- others are way to uptight !!

Breeding is a big deal and should not be done unless bettering the breed.

mimimomo 03-06-2014 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sl123 (Post 4401724)
@mimimomo-- I didn't read all of that !! again --- I had no idea that mating with a friends yorkie would be such a major ordeal ! I think I have gotten all I need out of this site.. and will figure out how to disconnect from it ! I have never dealt with such rude people!

Some were very nice and helpful -- others are way to uptight !!

Well, that's a shame. All I was trying to do was warn you of the inherited diseases & available tests that you can do @ your vet's. There is no way of testing for Leggs Calves Perthes Disease, but it shows up early, 5-9 months in pups & I encourage you to read up on it. Brings much pain to the pups & heartache for the new parents, needs FHO surgery which costs a couple of thousand dollars. These inherited diseases are real & can happen if it's in their genes, so I suggest getting your boy tested @ least for Liver Shunt (BATS) & get his knees checked, their eyes, also the breeding females. You & your friends are responsible for what you bring into this world. Hope all pups will live long pampered healthy lives & you're prepared to properly train & love your future stud.

sl123 03-06-2014 10:31 AM

@mimimomo puppy went to vet yesterday for his 1 year check up all is GREAT !! He is 5.6lbs of good loving, and GREAT HEALTH !! lots of love & plenty pampered !!

:animal-pa:animal-pa:animal-pa:animal-pa:animal-pa

sl123 03-06-2014 10:32 AM

@LOVETO DREAM -- we do know for sure !!! end of discussion with you !!

mimimomo 03-06-2014 10:49 AM

I think it's important to stress that even tho the mating pair has a clean bill of health, they can still pass on the inherited disease(s) if it's in their genes. W/that said, I am in no way supporting your decision to stud out your boy, wish you would reconsider, but it's your dog, your choice & it sounds like you're going ahead w/it anyway.
This is a forum of dog lovers & in any dog forum, you will get strong opposing opinions about breeding. Unless your dog was Championed, sired by Champions or has an impressive line in his/her pedigree, you have no business breeding your dog. I am talking to everyone out there that wants to breed their pets.

DvlshAngel985 03-06-2014 10:59 AM

In no way did I mean to insult you. It sounded to me from what you posted that you were misled about your dogs origins. You said, that you were told he was AKC and then received CKC paperwork. If that was not what you meant, then I apologize.

At the end of the day, I know what you mean about everything sounding rude and mean. Your puppy is PERFECT in your eyes, the same way my Yorkie is perfect in my eyes. Not one person is insulting your dog. All that nonsense on testing, bettering the breed, and on and on and on.... It's all part of studding. Studding is a business. There's an exchange of goods and money that happens. It's all part of what you charge for. It sounds mean because as part of the business you have to think of all of this and be slightly detached in order to produce the best product. I've seen how breeders talk about their pups and they don't say "pampered" and "spoiled" like you and I would. My perfect pooch is spoiled and pampered too. :love: I too thought about breeding, and the coldness aspect of it turned me off. Kaji is not a product, he's my baby. The marking issue was also part of it. And then the last part was not knowing where the babies would end up scared me more after getting involved with rescue.

Yorkiesrtoocute 03-06-2014 11:18 AM

I know you might not understand now because you are new to breeding. But I breed my pair and had a first litter. Is not as easy as it sounds aside from the genetic testing, I would recommend it because you don't want any puppy's being born sick and dyeing shortly after birth and the dams mother coming after you. As to him being one he is too young my two year old stud had trouble mating as to he dirint know what he was doing. It took my expirienced mentor to come over and help me get them to tie. Also your friends must know there's not much money to be made they will be lucky if they come out even. Example- my female had one pup - cost- csections, X-rays, whelping supply cost, vet during pregnancy. After birth female dirint care for puppy's because of c section. I dirint sleep for days supplementing the puppy. It hasn't cost me hundreds I'm well in the thousands lucky I have my daughter who is keeping her if I was selling I would be probably -negative thousands yes im not lyeing. Open your eyes it's not that easy besides I've seen studs online akc registered being studed for as low as 300-500 I saw you live in Florida look online. Or pick of the litter what if the dam has one that will be a battle between you and the other folks some people even make contracts to be sure they go thru. It's vary complicated. If akc are being studed for 300-500 how much would no registrations be studed for? No testing? Not much get him neutered the marking gets terrible believe me.


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