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kari2001 02-07-2014 01:24 PM
spaying and invitro????
 
so I went to my vet and he said that they could get her spayed. but then he mentioned something. p.s. im still going to spay her but can you tell me what this thing really is? lol so he said something about invitro fertilization. please comment and tell me if it is dangerous to do. I know what it is, can you guys tell me a little more like how does it work the cost the benafits of it and anything eles.


p.s. im still going to spay her when the vet tells me to :)

thanks

mimimomo 02-07-2014 01:27 PM
WHY in the world would your vet even mention in vitro fertilization? :confused::rolleyes::confused:

I am sorry but not to be rude but am very curious...WHAT is the purpose of your post???

LunasMomma 02-07-2014 01:27 PM
Oh please get a new vet! Any vet that encourages someone to breed their dog when you CLEARLY want her spayed, is not a good vet. Breeding is best left to the experienced and educated. If you really want to breed, find a local breeder to mentor you and study study study! Lots of testing and money is involved. Good breeders usually break even or even go into debt to breed properly.

kari2001 02-07-2014 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4387678)
WHY in the world would your vet even mention in vitro fertilization? :confused::rolleyes::confused:

I am sorry but not to be rude but am very curious...WHAT is the purpose of your post???
im still going to spay her im just curios what it is ok..

mimimomo 02-07-2014 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kari2001 (Post 4387681)
im still going to spay her im just curios what it is ok..
Then why don't you google it or ask your vet who mentioned it, ok...

Hrossen11 02-07-2014 01:32 PM
Invitro fertilization is for breeding purposes, where the females eggs are flushed then mixed with sperm in Petri dish, then reinserted into a female. This is rare in dogs. Maybe your vet meant something else since you are getting your dog spayed. Unless he wants your females eggs to plant in another dog. Which would bring up a lot of questions.

kari2001 02-07-2014 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by LunasMomma (Post 4387680)
Oh please get a new vet! Any vet that encourages someone to breed their dog when you CLEARLY want her spayed, is not a good vet. Breeding is best left to the experienced and educated. If you really want to breed, find a local breeder to mentor you and study study study! Lots of testing and money is involved. Good breeders usually break even or even go into debt to breed properly.

I am after she gets spayed. he is a small company it is like a new family owned business. im going to switch him.

kari2001 02-07-2014 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrossen11 (Post 4387684)
Invitro fertilization is for breeding purposes, where the females eggs are flushed then mixed with sperm in Petri dish, then reinserted into a female. This is rare in dogs. Maybe your vet meant something else since you are getting your dog spayed. Unless he wants your females eggs to plant in another dog. Which would bring up a lot of questions.

oh that sounds really hard and bad. im spaying her on Monday. when she is spayed should I change her feeding schedual?

kari2001 02-07-2014 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mimimomo (Post 4387683)
Then why don't you google it or ask your vet who mentioned it, ok...
im switching my vet because I want my dog to get spayed but he mentioned it because I told him im not breeding her.

Hrossen11 02-07-2014 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kari2001 (Post 4387687)
im switching my vet because I want my dog to get spayed but he mentioned it because I told him im not breeding her.
Which means he wants breed her anyway if he wants to flush her eggs. Who knows the quality of the male he chooses to mix with your female or if it is even purebred. What what about the female he is inserting the eggs into? Is he just experimenting with invitro and using your females eggs as test subjects? Like I said earlier a lot of questions get raise.

Glad you will find another vet as this raises lots of questions of his ethics? Make sure when you get her spayed you let him know you do not want her eggs harvested and do not invitro

kari2001 02-07-2014 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrossen11 (Post 4387689)
Which means he wants breed her anyway if he wants to flush her eggs. Who knows the quality of the male he chooses to mix with your female or if it is even purebred. What what about the female he is inserting the eggs into? Is he just experimenting with invitro and using your females eggs as test subjects? Like I said earlier a lot of questions get raise.

Glad you will find another vet as this raises lots of questions of his ethics? Make sure when you get her spayed you let him know you do not want her eggs harvested and do not invitro

yes im switching and maybe adopting another one from the shelter :).

McheleM 02-07-2014 02:09 PM
If you get her spayed, you can't do invitro. Spaying removes her uterus and the horns, which she would need in order to have puppies.

IVF is rarely done in dogs.


Your vet makes me wonder????

Hrossen11 02-07-2014 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by McheleM (Post 4387698)
If you get her spayed, you can't do invitro. Spaying removes her uterus and the horns, which she would need in order to have puppies.

Your vet makes me wonder????
No, but the vet can flush the eggs during spaying process and place the fertilized eggs in another female which is why I worry about vet ethics?

McheleM 02-07-2014 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrossen11 (Post 4387703)
No, but the vet can flush the eggs during spaying process and place the fertilized eggs in another female which is why I worry about vet ethics?
If it's anything like human IVF, the eggs would need to be present, meaning the dog would need to be ovulating, meaning she would be in the middle of a heat cycle and they don't usually spay in the middle of a heat.

Not to mention the surrogate dog would have to have fertility drugs and other drugs to trick her body into not rejecting the blastocysts.

I've had IVF 8-9 times, so I'm pretty familiar with the human side of it. Not as sure on the dog side.

I do know it's rarely done. AI is the preferred method, but still a dog has to be ready (in heat and ovulating) to properly AI.

kari2001 02-07-2014 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hrossen11 (Post 4387703)
No, but the vet can flush the eggs during spaying process and place the fertilized eggs in another female which is why I worry about vet ethics?
should I switch automatically??????


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